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The Treat wrote:
here’s a crazy idea. with the youtube explosion going on, if someone could videotape some of these races and them put them up on youtube, that’d be pretty sweet. quality wouldnt be great, but better than nothing. i dont expect to watch the entire mile, but some of the sprints and relays might be fun to watch. anyone else agree? anyone gonna be there that has a video camera?This is a fantastic idea! Hell, i’ll watch the mile to see if Dunn can set a new mark! But i understand why someone might not want to video tape all of it.
I sat near an uncle of Nelson Westby’s at the meet in Carthage and he was taping the race, then letting Nelson’s family see it on Youtube (since they live in Oregon)… so this is a similar idea, except with more races.
From the National Champs forum, I have created a group “NCAA Division III Swimming” that we can post all videos (races and otherwise) of DIII Swimming related material. This is the link–http://www.youtube.com/group/d3swimming
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For real. Careful? They do not prohibit videotape for individuals at meets. The use of this video is not broadcast, and it is not promotional. The video is informational. And, youtube would get sued, not the individual who posted the video. The videos are totally permitted by all officials, either implicitly or explicitly. Either way, post whatever you have because how can anyone sue over rights to material that do not potentially have revenue associated with it. Example—mlb broadcasts are used by fox, espn, etc. for revenue. The ncaa cannot capitalize on home video of d3 meets, especially meets that are not from nationals. Even so, the argument is that the tape is educational, as is any coaches tape of a meet. If they sue, they will win because of sheer financial backing, not necessarily legal rights to video they have not restricted in the past.
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@plutus wrote:
For real. Careful? They do not prohibit videotape for individuals at meets. The use of this video is not broadcast, and it is not promotional. The video is informational. And, youtube would get sued, not the individual who posted the video. The videos are totally permitted by all officials, either implicitly or explicitly. Either way, post whatever you have because how can anyone sue over rights to material that do not potentially have revenue associated with it. Example—mlb broadcasts are used by fox, espn, etc. for revenue. The ncaa cannot capitalize on home video of d3 meets, especially meets that are not from nationals. Even so, the argument is that the tape is educational, as is any coaches tape of a meet. If they sue, they will win because of sheer financial backing, not necessarily legal rights to video they have not restricted in the past.
I’m still thinking they can sue. Rationalize it all you want. But you are right – they would be suing YouTube, and they probably wouldn’t unless it became a real widespread problem across sports – I doubt just for swimming.
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ESPN owns the rights to the NCAA Swimming Championsihps. Even though they don’t use them they own them and they don’t have any intentions of giving them up. Taking home video from nationals and placing it on any site constitutes public broadcast. Home video from a dual meet where the rights haven’t been sold, not a problem.
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@CollegeSwimming.com wrote:
ESPN owns the rights to the NCAA Swimming Championsihps. Even though they don’t use them they own them and they don’t have any intentions of giving them up. Taking home video from nationals and placing it on any site constitutes public broadcast. Home video from a dual meet where the rights haven’t been sold, not a problem.
yeah, we’ll just be taping the dual meet in houston next march 🙂
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@DonCheadle wrote:
Put any video you want up, NCAA probably won’t sue, and if they do all you need to do is remove the offending video. Really…
exactly. just do the, “oh, i had no idea that you guys didnt allow this,” and then remove it. or you can just use my idea and call/tag it something totally obscure like, “artic horse jumping” so that when the ncaa searches for ncaa on youtube, they wont get our results. then, we tell people what to search for on youtube and they get the video.
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