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    • #12510
      Anonymous
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      I know that there was some talk about the meet being shown on You Tube earlier. To date I haven’t seen any feed there. Has anyone been able to find video of the men’s 400 Free Relay and the men’s 200 Breaststroke finals at this year’s DIII nationals? Thanks.

    • #37388
      NCACDork
      Member

      I haven’t really seen anything either, but I did stuble across this:

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrkrQgotbxI

      I really like the description, too. Here is your reference:

      1) C-BROOKS, MARC JR KENYON :45.26 :44.51 :21.19 :44.51
      2) GYORFI, PAUL SR WHEATON :45.08 :44.93 :21.70 :44.93
      3) SINGLETON, EDDIS JR MOUNT UNION :45.91 :45.62 :21.35 :45.62
      4) SEGUIN, ELLIOT SO UNION :46.09 :45.71 :22.11 :45.71
      5) BRANNOCK, JUSTIN SR JOHNS HOPKINS :45.88 :45.83 :22.14 :45.83
      6) JOHNSON, MATT SR WASHINGTON UNIV :46.11 :45.94 :22.05 :45.94
      7) BROWN, JASON SR CARLETON :46.09 :46.14 :22.20 :46.14
      8) ARNOLD, JAMES SR ST. JOHN’S :46.16 :46.31 :22.28 :46.31

      Gyorfi is a nice guy, but I think the description was embellished a bit.

      But seriously, it would be awesome if some of the events from this past year were posted so they could be enjoyed by all.

    • #37389
      CupoJava
      Member

      That’s ridiculous. It reminds me of Chad Johnson for some reason, except Ocho Cinco is funny when he is acting cocky. So funny, in fact, that ocho cinco is the name on my kickball jersey this summer. Holla.

      I can believe that he might have caught the KC relay if he had 10 more yards, so maybe it was a misquote? No way he would have won the 100 individual though. Bologna.

    • #37390
      bigusdickus
      Member

      Seriously. For those of you who are too lazy to follow the link:
      “that was one of the most fun races have ever swam. not so much because of the fast time (although that was part of it). but more because i love racing after people and tringto catch them. in that relay i was out in a 20.4 or so to my feet at the 50. that is nearly as fast as i can go. i was going all out. i love that feeling of trying your hardest. earlier that night i got 2nd in the 100 free individual event, but i didn’t try as hard on the front half, and so instead of winning, the guy who beat me held me off (5 more yards and i would have won). i love the feeling of trying your hardest for the entire race, and knowing you did a good job. it was a great race.” – Paul Gyorfi
      I don’t know that I agree with the topic of picking people out like that, but if you’re going to post something like that where everybody can see it…

      NCAC how did you find that?

    • #37391
      bigusdickus
      Member

      More importantly, does ANYONE have any finals video they could upload to youtube? Somebody has to be sitting on something… I was able to find some women’s meet stuff on there, but no men’s.

      There IS, however, some decent video from worlds, although a lot of that is “en espanol.”

    • #37392
      Derek
      Member

      @bigusdickus wrote:

      There IS, however, some decent video from worlds, although a lot of that is “en espanol.”

      I’d rather have “en espanol” than “a la Rowdy Gaines.”

    • #37393
      NCACDork
      Member

      Haha, I actually respect Rowdy Gaines as a swimmer. They should fork over the dough though and have Kevin Harlon do it.

      I found the video by searching for “free relay” and sorting by date added, although I was actually trying to find video of the 800 FR at worlds.

    • #37394
      Father
      Member

      these words are insulting to Marc Courtney Brooks.

      MCB could beat him in the 100 and 200, so why does he think he could beat MCB in the 105?

    • #37395
      Father
      Member

      Enjoy:

      http://www.cbc.ca/sports/aquatics/video.html

      You’ll need to open it as a new window……

      Thanks to all canadians…

    • #37396
      silentp
      Member

      He should have planned accordingly knowing that the race would be 100 yards rather than 105, if he had planned for 100, instead of 105, maybe he would have done better. Was bad information given to him regarding the length of the race contested?

      Or maybe if MCB was actually worried about losing, he could have gone faster, the following year he did split 42.9.

    • #37397
      Derek
      Member

      silentp bringing the heat!

    • #37398
      NCACDork
      Member

      FYI Java, that wasn’t KC that Gyorfi was catching, it was another team. KC was just so far ahead they were out of the picture most of the time.

    • #37399

      Who is Paul Gyorfi? And what makes him think he can talk like that. Honestly, very few people in DIII swimming are entitled to speak in such a manner, and those people have at least one title to their name.

    • #37400
      swim5599
      Member

      well I think you can say whatever the hell you want when you split 43.5 on your 400 FR. Paul Gyorfi is hands down one of the classiest people I have ever met.

    • #37401
      Derek
      Member

      @swim5599 wrote:

      well I think you can say whatever the hell you want when you split 43.5 on your 400 FR. Paul Gyorfi is hands down one of the classiest people I have ever met.

      Defensive, eh?

    • #37402
      silentp
      Member

      @swim5599 wrote:

      well I think you can say whatever the hell you want when you split 43.5 on your 400 FR. Paul Gyorfi is hands down one of the classiest people I have ever met.

      I’d say this drops his “classiness” a bit.

    • #37403
      NCACDork
      Member

      I just went to the link again and the quote and description were changed, so that’s cool.

      “It was one of the most fun races I have ever swam, not so much because of the fast time (although that was part of it), but more because i love racing after people and trying to catch them. In that relay, I was out in a 20.4 or so to my feet at the 50. That is nearly as fast as i can go. I was going all out. I love that feeling of trying your hardest. Earlier that night I got 2nd in the 100 free individual event, but I didn’t try as hard on the front half, and so I was held off (Paul went 44.93; Marc C-Brooks of Kenyon went 44.51). I love the feeling of trying your hardest for the entire race and knowing you did a good job. It was a great race.” – Paul Gyorfi

      How can you change the wording though if it was a direct quote? I will go ahead and “blame” whoever posted the video, as opposed to the man himself. He was, indeed, rather classy when I met him. I must assume the color commentary was made up to some degree.

    • #37404
      swim5599
      Member

      Paul Gyorfi would never say anything to disprect a guy as good as Marc- Courtney Brooks, it is just not the kind of guy he is. Maybe the wording sounds bad on this, but I can tell you he is not an arrogant guy.

    • #37405
      The Treat
      Member

      @swim5599 wrote:

      Paul Gyorfi would never say anything to disprect a guy as good as Marc- Courtney Brooks, it is just not the kind of guy he is. Maybe the wording sounds bad on this, but I can tell you he is not an arrogant guy.

      we’re going to play a game called, “spot the treat getting smoked by paul gyorfi in this video”. winner gets nothing but my respect.

    • #37406
      The Treat
      Member

      @silentp wrote:

      He should have planned accordingly knowing that the race would be 100 yards rather than 105, if he had planned for 100, instead of 105, maybe he would have done better. Was bad information given to him regarding the length of the race contested?

      Or maybe if MCB was actually worried about losing, he could have gone faster, the following year he did split 42.9.

      and didnt MCB go 2nd in this race? apologies for the terrible looking results (w/ the splits way out of order), they’ve been that way for years on ncaasports.com

      EVENT: 20 MEN’s 400 Yard FREESTYLE RELAY

      NCAA RECORD 2:57.98 KENYON 3/21/98
      QUALIFYING FOR EVENT 3:07.06

      RESULTS of FINALS

      RANK PRELIM TIME

      CHAMPIONSHIP FINAL

      1) KENYON 3:01.86 2:58.82
      1) DUDA, ANDREJS FR :21.63 3) BOON, READ SR 1:49.54 :44.71 2:13.74
      2) C-BROOKS, MARC JR 1:05.18 4) HUNT, RUSSELL SO 2:35.08
      1:28.54 2:58.82

      2) JOHNS HOPKINS 3:04.59 3:03.19
      1) BRANNOCK, JUSTIN SR :22.28 3) ROBINSON, KYLE JR 1:52.81 :46.25 2:17.31
      2) LOFTHUS, DAVE SR 1:07.52 4) ARMSTRONG, SCOTT SR 2:39.16
      1:31.40 3:03.19

      3) WHEATON 3:03.46 3:03.50
      1) GLASS, JOHN SR :22.51 3) DENBY, PHILLIP FR 1:55.63 :46.91 2:19.98
      2) GYORFI, SAM FR 1:08.55 4) GYORFI, PAUL SR 2:40.32
      1:33.59 3:03.50

    • #37407
      CupoJava
      Member

      I am still confused about the whole thing, and also slightly disappointed. I think originally Paul was originally suggesting he would have caught the guy in the 100 individual event, not talking about the relay. He might have (and should have) just talked about the relay because in that case he might have caught Armstrong(who swam the mile that day… kinda unfair) if the race had been a little longer.

    • #37408
      The Treat
      Member

      @Cupo’Java wrote:

      I am still confused about the whole thing, and also slightly disappointed. I think originally Paul was originally suggesting he would have caught the guy in the 100 individual event, not talking about the relay. He might have (and should have) just talked about the relay because in that case he might have caught Armstrong(who swam the mile that day… kinda unfair) if the race had been a little longer.

      not to mention he only gained .1 on MCB on the second 50. maybe he was gaining on him at the end but MCB had it in the books.

    • #37409
      Redsquirrel
      Member

      I just discovered this thread and thought I’d post a defense up for Paul. I posted the YouTube video and thought I’d add some commentary to the whole thing. The quote in question was from an email (later edited to be more readable) he had sent me and I can only assume that the comment was made in an optimistic form (as in, “it was a good race” as opposed to “if there were only 5 more yards”). I very much doubt that Paul was making any suggestion that the distance should have been 105 yards and that if so, that things would have been different. I think he was simply proud that he had swam as fast as he did and excited that he and Marc could battle it out. I can tell you that Paul holds the upmost respect for Marc as he does with any other swimmer. Paul holds a lot of class and I very much doubt he meant to belittle anybody.

      I apologize to both Marc and Gyorfi for the confusion caused by the comment. I should have been more careful about putting something up in a public area that I hadn’t realized could be misinterpreted by those who don’t know him. As said above, the wording is very poor and Gyorfi is not an arrogant guy. I’m deleting the quote off the youtube video now.
      ~JJ

    • #37410

      @The Treat wrote:

      @Cupo’Java wrote:

      I am still confused about the whole thing, and also slightly disappointed. I think originally Paul was originally suggesting he would have caught the guy in the 100 individual event, not talking about the relay. He might have (and should have) just talked about the relay because in that case he might have caught Armstrong(who swam the mile that day… kinda unfair) if the race had been a little longer.

      not to mention he only gained .1 on MCB on the second 50. maybe he was gaining on him at the end but MCB had it in the books.

      I donno about the quote – but I do know about the race – I was at the end of the lane yelling my head off for one – and of course, I am rather biased as Gyorfi was my roommate, teammate, and we were both in each other’s weddings… I even sang in his (I’m swimmer junky dork AND can sing… imagine that). Full disclosure.

      Anyway, Gyorfi probably wouldn’t want me posting this, but the only guy who intimidated him in D3 that year was MCB… he was scared of him like a little girl : ) He wasn’t at all scared to take it out in the 100 fly against Duda, because he didn’t think he had a shot to beat him. But the 100 free he knew he had a shot – but he took out way to “conservatively” (slow – 21.7), because it was MCB, and MCB was supposed to be ahead of him. By the last 25, Gyorf was flying and MCB didn’t look good at all, but Gyrofi was to far behind. Maybe MCB could have gone faster that year to beat him, but Paul definitely didn’t swam as fast as he shoulda /coulda have that race. His relay split an hour later (that video) helps back that up.

      MCB circa 2004 would have kicked his ass, but MCB circa 2003 didn’t have a “great” 100 free.

      That is my opinion – Gyorfi doesn’t talk like that (me), and compared to most swimmers of his caliber wasn’t cocky at all – in fact, one of the biggest turning points in his career was during his junior year when he developed the confidence that he was fast enough to race in the same pool as guys like Brian Slaugh, Tim Dehaan, Chris Kamienski, and that sprint freestyler from Calvin who I forget his name…

      I’m guessing his All-American awards are all in a box in storage somewhere – he offered to give me a handful in college, and I’ve never noticed them on the walls anywhere in his house.

      BTW – that is yours truly giving the crappy color commentary on the YouTube video. I was proud of myself – calculating relay splits from the board while still keeping the camcorder pointed at the pool (sorta). ; p

    • #37411
      swim5599
      Member

      Rhyme I am assuming you are right on the money with everything you are saying about this topic. I was not there so I can not speculate about the individual race or the relay swim. If Rhyme says Courtney Brooks was fading down the stretch then he probably was. Gyorfi was a great swimmer and that 43.5 split is still amazing. But better then that he was a nice guy. Who probably never said a bad thing about any swimmer.

    • #37412
      swim5599
      Member

      ANd for the record Courtney Brooks was probably the most versatile freestyler I have ever seen swim. The guy was incredible.

    • #37413

      @bigdogracing wrote:

      I know that there was some talk about the meet being shown on You Tube earlier. To date I haven’t seen any feed there. Has anyone been able to find video of the men’s 400 Free Relay and the men’s 200 Breaststroke finals at this year’s DIII nationals? Thanks.

      Here are a few clips from various races.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijt4bPVhIZA
      Sam Gyorfi competing for Wheaton College in the 400 Free Relay Finals Event at the Div-III Nationals ’06 as the anchor leg. Go Sam!

      Sam nearly stripped the 1st place medal from Kenyon in this race. He posted a split of 44.63 to finish for Wheaton with a time of 3:02.47 close behind Kenyon’s 3:02.20. 3rd place went to Washington University (anchoring is Eric Triebe, swam 44.46 to finish with 3:02.71) and 4th went to Denison U. (anchoring is Lowell Byers, 3:03.50).
      Features audio consisting mostly of excited cheering with heavy emphasis on the phrase “Go Sam!”

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9z3JslS-AMc
      Caleb Courage wins the 100 Free at Division Three Nationals
      Features audio consisting of announcements by Tim Schutt.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21M01edkzBc
      Grove City College’s Timmy Whitbeck and Caleb Courage take 1 and 2 in the 50 free at D 3 Nats.
      Features audio also consisting mostly of announcements by Tim Schutt, but concludes with cyclonic cinematography and repeated expressions of enthusiastic disbelief.

      @RhymeAndReason wrote:

      I’m swimmer junky dork AND can sing… imagine that

      Hmmm, what are you doing around about the 15th of February? We just had our great soprano graduate from the PAC and we’re probably going to need someone for when people rise for the standing of the national anthem…………..

    • #37414
      JHU84
      Member

      wow, I can see why marsh is interested in courage – with that start and turns he still went fast how much dryland did he do – may get a big bounce from that too

    • #37415
      Chris Knight
      Member

      I counted Courage as taking +/- 50 strokes in that race, and Roberts (in lane 5, the only other swimmer visible through the whole race) as taking +/- 64. The power he gets from each stroke is incredible.

    • #37416

      I did the same thing. I think I got about 49. How tall is he?

    • #37417
      swim5599
      Member

      Courage moves just a ton of water. If you watch him swim that 100 you would think he is swimming a 200 with that arm speed. Start needs some serious work though.

    • #37418
      Vic
      Member

      I wouldn’t really say that he “moves water.” Great swimmers don’t move water. If you just move water, you won’t go anywhere. Great swimmers catch the water and move themselves past it. Courage appears to do this well, with a lot of power.

    • #37419
      swim5599
      Member

      It was just a figure of speech dude

    • #37420

      @swim5599 wrote:

      It was just a figure of speech dude

      lol!

    • #37421

      @chunkybearcub137 wrote:

      @swim5599 wrote:

      It was just a figure of speech dude

      lol!

      On this one I have to give props to swim5599 !

      Kind of like me or Rhyme&Reason being able to “Carry a tune”. Of course in my case, I have to carry it with a bucket.

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