Women’s 800 Free Relay

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    • #12429
      Nescacfan
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      Ok, so Kenyon wins this one in record time, breaking 7:30. Who else will be under 7:33.38? Wash U? Emory? Amherst? I don’t think anyone else breaks the existing record.

    • #36303
      neswim
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      @Nescacfan wrote:

      Ok, so Kenyon wins this one in record time, breaking 7:30. Who else will be under 7:33.38? Wash U? Emory? Amherst? I don’t think anyone else breaks the existing record.

      You should note that there is still a chance that Ertel will not swim this one and if so then I think they will still break the record but not 7:30.

      I also don’t think anyone else will break the record.

    • #36304
      swim5599
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      I think Wash U makes a run at second in this race but they do not break the record

    • #36305
      Nescacfan
      Member

      I have changed my mind. I think Amherst breaks the existing 800 free relay record tonight based upon the swims of Ramsey[1:53.10] and Stern [1:51.29] this am. Count on Sasser at 1:51 or below. If the 4th swimmer[most probably Alex Lee who qualified for the event] swims a 1:55, Amherst is under 7:32.

    • #36306
      neswim
      Member

      @Nescacfan wrote:

      I have changed my mind. I think Amherst breaks the existing 800 free relay record tonight based upon the swims of Ramsey[1:53.10] and Stern [1:51.29] this am. Count on Sasser at 1:51 or below. If the 4th swimmer[most probably Alex Lee who qualified for the event] swims a 1:55, Amherst is under 7:32.

      Ok fair enough….but do they beat Kenyon?

    • #36307
      neswim
      Member

      @neswim wrote:

      @Nescacfan wrote:

      I have changed my mind. I think Amherst breaks the existing 800 free relay record tonight based upon the swims of Ramsey[1:53.10] and Stern [1:51.29] this am. Count on Sasser at 1:51 or below. If the 4th swimmer[most probably Alex Lee who qualified for the event] swims a 1:55, Amherst is under 7:32.

      Ok fair enough….but do they beat Kenyon?

      NESCAC where are you???

      Let me ask you…does Kenyon put Ertel in the 800 free relay? They’re going to win the meet no matter what combination they enter in the 800 free and 400 free. If they put Ertel in the 800 free then they put the record away for sure and win handily (and get revenge for last years DQ). They might still win without her but its no sure thing. The don’t need the points in the 400 free and their swimmers might step up and win it anway. What would you do?

    • #36308

      No, they DON’T win without Ertel. She is far too valuable to their team. From today, we’ve seen 3 1:53’s and a 1:55 from Kenyon. The 1:55 went 1:52 last year (although she was also the deeqer). From Amherst we have seen a 1:50 and 1:53. Sasser can go 1:51 at slowest. Even a 1:55 would give them a comfy win over Kenyon.

      Watch out for Wash U. Two 1:52’s today. Nordbrock can go 1:52. Hodges/Lodewyk can go 1:54. They can beat Kenyon too.

      If Kenyon does swim Ertel on the relay, it should be fun. It will also mean that they will be very vulnerable tomorrow night in the 400 FR, in which they have no chance of breaking the record. Carlton cannot swim a 100 like she can a 50, and with Calvin going 1:34 on day 1, they could easily beat an Ertel-less Kenyon 400 FR.

      My prediction for tonight (no Ertel): Amherst, Wash U, Kenyon, with two of them under the old record.

    • #36309
      neswim
      Member

      @My Spoon’s Too Big! wrote:

      No, they DON’T win without Ertel. She is far too valuable to their team. From today, we’ve seen 3 1:53’s and a 1:55 from Kenyon. The 1:55 went 1:52 last year (although she was also the deeqer). From Amherst we have seen a 1:50 and 1:53. Sasser can go 1:51 at slowest. Even a 1:55 would give them a comfy win over Kenyon.

      Watch out for Wash U. Two 1:52’s today. Nordbrock can go 1:52. Hodges/Lodewyk can go 1:54. They can beat Kenyon too.

      If Kenyon does swim Ertel on the relay, it should be fun. It will also mean that they will be very vulnerable tomorrow night in the 400 FR, in which they have no chance of breaking the record. Carlton cannot swim a 100 like she can a 50, and with Calvin going 1:34 on day 1, they could easily beat an Ertel-less Kenyon 400 FR.

      My prediction for tonight (no Ertel): Amherst, Wash U, Kenyon, with two of them under the old record.

      I don’t think Ertel is on this relay….might be tough to beat Amherst. Still I think they will rise to the occasion and beat Wash U. We’ll see in a few minutes.

    • #36310

      Coker had better step up if they’re going to do that (which I expect her to do, at least something faster than 1:55). Is there anyone on that team that I’m not thinking of that could be put on instead of Coker? Carlton and Wise are sprinters, and Straub is distance…

    • #36311
      swimkin
      Member

      Becca Allison should be on it. She was also on the National relay that has the current record. Probably her with Wenzlau, Arad, and Coker. But that is just my guess for now

    • #36312
      neswim
      Member

      No I think it will be Arad, Allison, Wenzlau and Coker. They are probably counting on them to rise to the occasion. Several of these swimmers had somewhat of a let down from yesterday (the first three certainly)…..this is a chance, I suspect, of getting them to step up. A worthy lesson, given the championship is not in doubt here and worth the chance, in my opion, given that three of them are underclassmen and good use the lessons from this race next year. This is after all a multi-year process.

    • #36313

      Yeah, it’s gotta be the four of them. There is no go-to girl on that relay. They are all very equal. Can they handle it when Amherst rockets ahead with Sasser on the second leg, and then puts Stern on the end? I don’t see Kenyon going into the last leg ahead of them, and Stern is just too good. In terms of Wash U, I think Hawk will have to catch one of them if they are going to beat Kenyon.

      I really hope someone destroys this record. It’s the slowest one in DIII, men or women.

    • #36314
      neswim
      Member

      @My Spoon’s Too Big! wrote:

      Yeah, it’s gotta be the four of them. There is no go-to girl on that relay. They are all very equal. Can they handle it when Amherst rockets ahead with Sasser on the second leg, and then puts Stern on the end? I don’t see Kenyon going into the last leg ahead of them, and Stern is just too good. In terms of Wash U, I think Hawk will have to catch one of them if they are going to beat Kenyon.

      I really hope someone destroys this record. It’s the slowest one in DIII, men or women.

      You got you’re wish…three teams under the record…and Amherst wins it…Wash U is second…Kenyon finishes fourth, I believe..results should be up soon.

    • #36315

      Kenyon 5th!!! Sweet!!!!!

      4 teams under, right?

      Great last leg from Stern/Sasser. Probably Stern, but can’t tell. Look at that from Amherst, Wash U, and Emory. Anchors going 1:49. 1:51, and 1:50. Awesome. Ertel would have made ZERO DIFFERENCE.

      This is great.

    • #36316

      That’s gotta be frustrating for Emory, getting 3rd. They had three solid legs on that relay. They just had no fourth girl. Lawler did great to almost swim a B cut (1:56.00 even if it’s with a relay start), because she is definitely an out-and-out sprinter. I’m surprised they didn’t go with Ali Smith who had a decent 400 IM or maybe Lilian Ciardelli.

      Anyway, anyone notice Weima get outsplit by Psaris and Stern (the latter in a huge way)? If you look at the splits, Calvin went into the final leg in first, followed by Amherst, Wash U, and Emory. Stern picked off their anchor right after the first 50, Hawk at the 100, and Psaris at the 150. She must have been shaking in her boots. Not a bad swim from her; just really good competition. And correct me if I’m wrong, but was Calvin not under the old record too?

    • #36317
      SwexasTim
      Member

      Calvin finished 4th and did break the record, they were 7:33.2 something.

      So 4 teams broke the record, none of which were kenyon.

    • #36318
      Lucy
      Member

      Kenyon had already broken the record. Their seed time coming into the meet was 7:32.24. Not that it counts in the finals, but it does count.

    • #36319
      neswim
      Member

      @SwexasTim wrote:

      Calvin finished 4th and did break the record, they were 7:33.2 something.

      So 4 teams broke the record, none of which were kenyon.

      Yes and it shows how much womens Div III swimming has improved in that event. Let look for the day when four teams can all go under 7:30.

    • #36320
      Nescacfan
      Member

      @neswim wrote:

      @neswim wrote:

      @Nescacfan wrote:

      I have changed my mind. I think Amherst breaks the existing 800 free relay record tonight based upon the swims of Ramsey[1:53.10] and Stern [1:51.29] this am. Count on Sasser at 1:51 or below. If the 4th swimmer[most probably Alex Lee who qualified for the event] swims a 1:55, Amherst is under 7:32.

      Ok fair enough….but do they beat Kenyon?

      NESCAC where are you???

      Let me ask you…does Kenyon put Ertel in the 800 free relay? They’re going to win the meet no matter what combination they enter in the 800 free and 400 free. If they put Ertel in the 800 free then they put the record away for sure and win handily (and get revenge for last years DQ). They might still win without her but its no sure thing. The don’t need the points in the 400 free and their swimmers might step up and win it anway. What would you do?

      Neswim:

      I am not sure Ertel would have made a difference. Amherst’s Alex Lee may have had the unsung swim of the meet. She is a “relay only” swimmer, swimming only the 800 Free at her first visit to nationals. With no “pre-lim” swim to settle her nerves, she finalled in 1:53 to set up Stern’s 1:49 anchor.

      It is hard to believe that four teams broke the existing record and Kenyon was not one of them.

    • #36321
      ajp
      Member

      Welp, I was wrong about the Kenyon 800 free relay, but that relay, was definitely the most exciting race of the meet thus far.

      All the props to those four teams that broke the record. Stern pulling away, with the split of the meet.

      Just amazing, way to go, to all those girls.

      Today should be another great day.

    • #36322

      @Lucy wrote:

      Kenyon had already broken the record. Their seed time coming into the meet was 7:32.24. Not that it counts in the finals, but it does count.

      That time was an add-up swim from midseason. Kenyon had not broken the record. Their record still stood from 2004.

    • #36323
      The Treat
      Member

      @My Spoon’s Too Big! wrote:

      @Lucy wrote:

      Kenyon had already broken the record. Their seed time coming into the meet was 7:32.24. Not that it counts in the finals, but it does count.

      That time was an add-up swim from midseason. Kenyon had not broken the record. Their record still stood from 2004.

      snap! lucy got SERVED! Spoon FTW!

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