Women’s 200 Medley Relay

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    • #12426
      Nescacfan
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      Is this one an easy win for Kenyon? It looks that way to me. With Ertel, they go 1:43 and have a shot at a national record[1:43.37]. I think 1:45 is the best that the rest can do.

    • #36224
      swim5599
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      Who will be going the backstroke leg on their medley’s?

    • #36225

      Carolyn Barer will probably lead off. 26-high or 27-low.

      Let’s see:
      Barer 26.8
      Connors 29.0
      Ertel 24.8
      Carlton 23.2

      1:43.8

      Could be close! Ertel could definitely be faster on the fly; Connors on the breast, too.

    • #36226
      neswim
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      @My Spoon’s Too Big! wrote:

      Carolyn Barer will probably lead off. 26-high or 27-low.

      Let’s see:
      Barer 26.8
      Connors 29.0
      Ertel 24.8
      Carlton 23.2

      1:43.8

      Could be close! Ertel could definitely be faster on the fly; Connors on the breast, too.

      I’d go with Leech…granted she’s a freshman but she has a much better stroke for a 50 than Barer…..Menzel versus Connors…probably Connors given her experience but they both can go 29….this is going to be fast relay for a number of years.

    • #36227
      silentp
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      Did anyone notice that swimming exhibition at NCACs, Kenyon’s B squad put up a time that would rank them 2nd in the country right now? Behind only their A relay.

    • #36228
      neswim
      Member

      @silentp wrote:

      Did anyone notice that swimming exhibition at NCACs, Kenyon’s B squad put up a time that would rank them 2nd in the country right now? Behind only their A relay.

      You’ll note that some coaches typically put their best relay team as B in the prelims at conference meets. That way, they can really go for a qualifying time and if they are DQ’d the official relay is still entered that night.

      I believe both Denison and Kenyon used this technique at NCACs.

      However, a true Kenyon B relay would still probably rank in the top 4 in the country since they have national-quality back-up at all four strokes for a 50 right now…and all of them are underclassmen (Leech, Menzel, Gagnon, Wise for example would not be far behind Barer, Connors, Ertel, Carlton). Only one senior in the whole group and Menzel is almost as fast as Connors in the 50 breast (they both have already split 29 this year).

    • #36229
      Nescacfan
      Member

      The real advantage of Kenyon’s back-up strength is that the four that qualify a relay in prelims may not be the four that swim at night. One less relay swim saves the best for last. Most everyone else has to swim their best four to make the championship heat.

    • #36230
      swim5599
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      Yeah when Kenyon is loaded you will traditionally see this. I think of their mens 200 fr last year. I would have considered that the one relay that they would have a really hard time winning. They throw Joey G on the relay in the morning, and then they pull him for the final and they win it.

    • #36231
      swimkin
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      Yes, Kenyon often swims their second fastest swimmers in the morning relays. This serves two purposes: 1: If that morning relay person swims the faster split of the season in the morning, then the Kenyon top relay swimmer on the team would potentially be bumped off that same relay in finals. Another reason why Kenyon’s relay teams can swim fast both in the am and finals. AND 2: It gives their fastest swimmers a break for their morning swims to help them to focus more in their individual events. Another way of gaining more potential points.

      Unfortunately, it is only in the Olympics that the morning relay only swimmers recieve Olympic medals if their team places in the top three in finals. At NCAAs they don’t recognize the morning only relay swimmers. Too bad, because they still have to get their team’s relay into finals!

    • #36232
      N Dynamite
      Member

      @swimkin wrote:

      Unfortunately, it is only in the Olympics that the morning relay only swimmers recieve Olympic medals if their team places in the top three in finals. At NCAAs they don’t recognize the morning only relay swimmers. Too bad, because they still have to get their team’s relay into finals!

      The NCAA doesn’t officially recognize them with a trophy but the morning guys do get an All-American certificate. Also, as long as they don’t finish first they can order their own trophy. For some reason 1st place trophies aren’t available for purchase.

    • #36233

      @My Spoon’s Too Big! wrote:

      Carolyn Barer will probably lead off. 26-high or 27-low.

      Let’s see:
      Barer 26.8
      Connors 29.0
      Ertel 24.8
      Carlton 23.2

      1:43.8

      Could be close! Ertel could definitely be faster on the fly; Connors on the breast, too.

      With Carlton going 22.7 tonight, we could see a national record from this relay tomorrow.

    • #36234
      neswim
      Member

      @My Spoon’s Too Big! wrote:

      Carolyn Barer will probably lead off. 26-high or 27-low.

      Let’s see:
      Barer 26.8
      Connors 29.0
      Ertel 24.8
      Carlton 23.2

      1:43.8

      Could be close! Ertel could definitely be faster on the fly; Connors on the breast, too.

      Pretty close call to the mark…Amherst did a great job finishing second. When was the last time a NESCAC team finished second at nationals…Williams in 2003 (and of course they won it a while ago) in 1983 but this is really quite a good showing by Amherst.

    • #36235

      Williams swept the medleys in 2005.

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