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January 3, 2008 at 7:19 pm #12951
Lazlo Hollyfeld
MemberThe meet is on Januay 12th and both teams are coming off christmas training. Fatigue could be a factor. It’s looking like a classic talent vs. depth battle, and I’m pretty confident that the meet could go either way. W&L lost a meet a couple years ago coming off training trip by 1 point to SUNY-Geneseo, that should help focus the Generals. Thoughts?
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January 4, 2008 at 2:59 pm #42876
franchise
MemberTalent wins this one.. but let’s see how close W&L can be.. they will definitely have a better chance in Charlotte than now..
Any news on Brian Parks? If he is back for Wingate this semester I think that W&L chances are down to a minimum. We are talking about 50 individual points plus relays here..
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January 5, 2008 at 3:17 pm #42877
Chris Knight
MemberThis meet was the 14 event format last year and will almost certainly be so again. Wingate should take the medley, the 1000, both breasts, the IM and whatever Chagas swims (not sure if he will do both flys, both backs, both sprints, or some other combo). That leaves W&L with the free relay, the 2 and 5 frees, and 2 to 4 other individuals…so I see this meet as close to even based on the fall rosters. But if Parks swims, that gives Wingate the backs without putting Chagas in them, freeing him to swim the flys, and that’s all she wrote. Hopefully it’ll be a close one!
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January 7, 2008 at 3:30 am #42878
Lazlo Hollyfeld
MemberHere is the breakdown using the BGMC top times on this website. Three things: First, Chagas is faster than some of these times. Second, if Wingate doesnt have another flyer, then you have to think that Corcoran swims fly rather than letting W&L go 1,2. And third, all relays have W&L as faster.
50 Free
Alex Sweet, W&L
T. McGlaston W&L
21.44 Gus Chagas, Wingate
21.5 Mason Norman, Wingate100 Free
45.04 Alex Sweet, W&L
45.95 T. McGlaston, W&L
46.37 Gus Chagas, Wingate
46.87 B. Barnds, W&L200 Free
1.40.80 Alex Sweet, W&L
1.41.09 Gus Chagas, Wingate
1.42.20 Paul Crook, W&L
1.42.77 T. McGlaston, W&L
1.44.63 L. Willers, Wingate
1.45.52 Brett Tatman, W&L500 Free
4.40.62 K. Corcoran, Wingate
4.41.31 Paul Crook, W&L
4.48.40 Blake Wright, Wingate
4.52.88 J. Giesen, W&L1000 Free
9.52.68 K. Corcoran, Wingate
10.13.08 J. Giesen, W&L
10.18.05 Dan Austin, W&L
10.19.45 Matt Dugan, WingateMile
16.33.07 Blake Wright, Wingate
17.04.98 J. Giesen, W&L
17.11.51 M. Dugan, Wingate1 Bk
54.27 Lucas Willers, Wingate
54.4 Brett Tatman, W&L
54.54 Gus Chagas, Wingate
54.87 W. Hartmann, W&L2 Bk
1.55.79 Brett Tatman, W&L
1.58.30 W. Hartmann, W&L
1.59.99 E. Fitzgerald, W&L
2.00.30 D. DeFrancisco, Wingate
2.01.11 Gus Chagas, Wingate1 Br
57.7 Vlashchenko, Wingate
60.4 Mason Norman, Wingate2 Br
2.07.40 Vlashchenko, Wingate
2.09.31 K. Corcoran, Wingate
2.14.43 Ian Childers, W&L1 Fl
50.48 Gus Chagas, Wingate
52.55 Winston Stagg, W&L
53.02 Josh Gonzalez, W&L
53.5 Scott Stephens, Wingate2 Fl
1.56.95 Gus Chagas, Wingate
1.57.03 Winston Stagg, W&L
1.57.52 Josh Gonzalez, W&L
2.01.30 Scott Stephens, Wingate
2.01.74 B. Wilder, W&L2 IM
1.53.56 K. Corcoran, Wingate
1.55.58 Paul Crook, W&L
1.58.84 Winston Stagg, W&L4 IM
4.01.31 K. Corcoran, Wingate
4.18.90 Winston Stagg, W&L
4.20.53 K. Hennessy, Wingate4 x 50 Free
1.23.30 W&L
1.25.93 Wingate4 x 100 Free
3.03.93 W&L
3.06.77 Wingate4 x 200 Free
6.51.56 W&L
7.06.09 Wingate4 x 50 Medley
1.34.93 W&L
1.37.71 Wingate4 x 100 Medley
3.33.33 W&L
3.35.64 WingateI think that Corcoran v. Crook in the 5 could be the swim of the meet and the deciding factor.
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January 7, 2008 at 4:50 pm #42879
Chris Knight
Member@Lazlo Hollyfeld wrote:
Here is the breakdown using the BGMC top times on this website. Three things: First, Chagas is faster than some of these times. Second, if Wingate doesnt have another flyer, then you have to think that Corcoran swims fly rather than letting W&L go 1,2. And third, all relays have W&L as faster.
Hey Lazlo, aren’t you supposed to be the smartest man in the world? I think you’ve been spending too much time filling out raffle cards. Corcoran will not swim fly, he will swim the 1000, the 5, the IM and one of the relays. Now that I think about it, Chagas will either swim both flys and both relays, or both flys, the 2 free, and the medley. They don’t need him in the 1 back because Willers will have a good shot to win it, even though Parks does not appear likely to return. Same story for Norman in the sprints. So the only event that Wingate won’t be favored in or at least darn close is the 2 back, where Tatman shouldn’t have a problem (Parks did not swim in their Training Trip meet…then again neither did Chagas).
@Lazlo Hollyfeld wrote:
I think that Corcoran v. Crook in the 5 could be the swim of the meet and the deciding factor.
They will probably match up in the IM, too, for another good race.
Basically this meet will come down to who wants it more in the sprints, the 5, the 1 back, the IM, and the relays.
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January 8, 2008 at 12:49 am #42880
Lazlo Hollyfeld
MemberI got the names wrong. Sorry Chris.
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January 13, 2008 at 12:26 am #42881
Chris Knight
MemberW&L 123, Wingate 119.
Wow, this was one of the most exciting dual meets I’ve ever seen. The Generals really stepped up today. I think probably the 2 swims that really made the biggest difference were Will Hartmann’s win in the 1 back and Josh Gonzalez’s in the 1 fly. Wingate swam quite well, too. It’ll be another great battle in Charlotte next month.
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