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      I feel motivated to make a few comments about the upcoming important meets this month. There are three worth noting:

      1. GCC vs. CMU. After some poor relative showings last year, CMU men’s team is back with a strong freshman class. Coach B needed divers, backstrokers, breaststrokers, and IM guys, and he got them. Looks like Ron Papa has moved over to the free sprints to help out Bailey.
      I was thinking that GCC might have a good chance to beat them in a dual meet (which Westminster did last year), but it might be a long shot after looking at some of their times so far. Even Joe Riddell will have some good competition in diving. However I do predict that the GCC men will sweep the freestyle events and even take the free relay. I could be wrong, but I don’t believe they can compete with Whitbeck, Courage and Cressman.

      2. W&J vs. Westminster. Should be another great dual meet. Orstein is back to her unbeatable status. I didn’t find Mancuso’s name posted from the weekend meet, but I trust he will be there. All in all I would say the women’s side is a toss up (W&J is on home turf), but the Westminster men should prevail again.

      3. W&J and GCC at the Kenyon Invit. Both these PAC teams will get to visit Kenyon’s new amazing swimming facilities. Looks like Kenyon is splitting their team for another meet that weekend, and if that is the case there is a chance the GCC men could pull off a victory, depending on how rested they are.

      Other thoughts – there seems to be a shift in D3 swimming to the 16 event format for dual meets. Can anyone comment on this trend? Also I couldn’t help but noticing freshman Jane Wilson from Grove City. Against Chatham a 24.9 in the 50, followed by (in the next event!!) a 55.9 in the 100. Great times!!

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      N Dynamite
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      @weedwacker2000 wrote:

      Other thoughts – there seems to be a shift in D3 swimming to the 16 event format for dual meets. Can anyone comment on this trend? Also I couldn’t help but noticing freshman Jane Wilson from Grove City. Against Chatham a 24.9 in the 50, followed by (in the next event!!) a 55.9 in the 100. Great times!!

      1. The sixteen event format is the new default. If the coaches cannot agree on oneof the other formats then they do 16 event. Some coaches prefer the 16 event format, so that may be all their team does. You’ll see a lot more of that format in the future

      2. There is diving between the 50 and 100 in the 16 event format. If there are no divers there is typically a 10-15 minute break between those events because it’s usually the same people. In my opinion, they should switch the 100 and 500 – gives everyone the same amount of rest, but what do I know.

      Still, 24.9 and 55.9 are both solid times. What was her other events and how did she do in those? If she has a decent taper it looks like GCC may have male and female sprinters in Houston in March.

    • #31819

      Thanks, N Dyna., for your explanation of the 16 event format. Actually if I had been more observant, I would have seen such an explanation on other forum entries.

      I sure others have noticed that CMU now has live stat reports of all of their home meets this season. I wonder if this technology is available at other D3 schools? Could this be a future trend, or is it cost prohibitive at many places? Anybody know?

      I forgot to include an important meet this month – one which Westminster has at Wooster next weekend, along with Denison and Calvin. Looks like a lot of good competition for them. Denison is really looking strong this year, as well as the Calvin women.

      As for today’s meets I was surprised to find the Westminster women losing to Allegheny. Didn’t they beat Allegheny last year? Anyway it looks like stronger competition among the NCAC schools.

      And yes, the GCC men did sweep the individual free events today, and pretty convincingly at that. Chip is looking particularly strong in the 400 IM, so this bodes well for future meets.

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      @weedwacker2000 wrote:

      I sure others have noticed that CMU now has live stat reports of all of their home meets this season. I wonder if this technology is available at other D3 schools? Could this be a future trend, or is it cost prohibitive at many places? Anybody know?

      I would guess it has everything to do with the version of Meet Manager that they have (although CMU has started publishing live results for a lot of their other sports, too, it seems). I believe the MM Pro version lets you publish live results straight to the web. You can put up live results with the less souped-up, and considerably less expensive, version, but it’s a good bit more time- and labor-intensive (à la PACs last year). That’s why you don’t see it happening with most schools.

      And yes, the GCC men did sweep the individual free events today, and pretty convincingly at that. Chip is looking particularly strong in the 400 IM, so this bodes well for future meets.

      Absolutely. 4:17 is noticeably faster than the, what, 4:23 he went last time he swam it? Nicely done. Tim Whitbeck’s open 50 time wasn’t too shabby either. Also, I was also fairly stunned by his split in the medley relay–almost as stunned as, say, that Westminster’s women lost to Allegheny. How did that happen? Maybe just an off meet. Who knows, maybe they can use that to get themselves going for the W&J meet this Wednesday. As if anybody ever really needs anything special to get themselves up for that meet.

    • #31821
      gccswimmer16
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      A nice meet for both the Westminster men and W and J women this past week. . . both had convincing victories at the President’s pool. I was surprised at the margin of victory for the W and J women-I wonder if they’ll be able to bring the title back this year. Also, does anyone from W and J know anything about Mancuso? Is he hurt, or just having an off year? He seems a little slower, and I was surprised that he didn’t swim the 200 fly against Westminster.

    • #31822

      Dan Mancuso started out slow last year, and then put together a strong taper at year’s end. I suspect he will more or less follow that pattern this year.

      Another great swim by Jane Wilson in the 100 free tonight, dropping down to 54.41!! She must like the GCC pool. We’ll see how she fares against the Kenyon women tomorrow.

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