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April 12, 2007 at 1:18 am #12528oldswimnfoolMember
Just out of curiosity, I would like to hear from as many of you as possible – which programs do you see improving? Whose results were surprising this year at NCAA’s – who had swimmers there or more swimmers than expected? On the reverse side – who didn’t have as many, or has slowly or quickly started to fall in the last year(s)?
April 12, 2007 at 6:05 pm #37599polarbearMember
Connecticut College on the upswing
Hamilton on the downswing
April 12, 2007 at 6:07 pm #37600AnonymousMember
REALLY BAD TOPIC … MOVE ON GENTLEMEN.
April 12, 2007 at 8:20 pm #37601DonCheadleMember
This is a good topic, but will prbably turn ugly.
Something I have noticed:
Over the past 20 or more years the MIAC and the MIAA have alternated which conference was better:
In the Mid 80’s to ealy 90’s the MIAC was better
From 92-03 the MIAA was better
From 04-present the MIAC was better (in 05 and 06 alot better)
The MIAA is coming making a comeback just as Gustavus and Olaf lose one of their best classes in history. Still, going into next year the MIAC is better, but it actually might be close for the first time in a while.
April 12, 2007 at 10:49 pm #37602Mister ObviousMember
BAD TOPIC … MOVE ON GENTLEMEN.
It doesn’t have to be – just focus on the good. Make it a love-fest.
On the way up . . .
Luther – Men & Women are just under the radar.
Mary Washington – Where’d those girls come from?
Coe – New coach (http://www.collegeswimming.com/news/2007/apr/12/jennings-reins-coe-college/)
UCSC – Proving JC transfers are good
MIT – They’re back but this time with depth
Merchant Marine – A learning year at NCAA’s
Springfield – Now more than divers.
Wabash – Young’uns just miss relay bubble again
If Trinity actually gets Taylor Clark, they’re up in a big way – at least it will look like it.
– The ORIGINAL Mr. Obvious
April 12, 2007 at 11:22 pm #37603AnonymousMember
A love fest … a much better idea than identifying those who are struggling.
April 13, 2007 at 1:50 am #37604Mr. ObviousMember
I think this is about the time Swim5599 is supposed to chime in about Mark Schmitt and Paul Gyorfi being an up and coming program.
April 13, 2007 at 2:24 am #37605oldswimnfoolMember
Just to clarify – I am actually WAY more interested in the up and coming programs, but I do know and understand that we are in a very cyclical sport and programs rise and fall based on recruiting, coaching changes or even more minor issues. My women’s team this year could easily have been the worst in the country, and last year they were decent…… lose one strong swimmer and things change….. My intent was never to say that so-and-so team is bad, just to point out what I had noticed. When I started coaching Trinity TX was a pretty strong team and I had been impressed – a lone d3 school in a largely d3 swimming unpopulated area…… I have no bones against Trinity……. I have no problem keeping it more positive – so lets move on with the teams on the upswing –
April 13, 2007 at 2:12 pm #37606swim5599Member
I would not say this is an up and coming team, but one of the biggest surprises was how well Wash U did despite losing those 2 horses last year. Leckey, Bullock, Kushner, and Beyer pretty good group I would say.
April 13, 2007 at 9:23 pm #376072000swimmerMember
Up and Up:
1. Luther College-coaching/solid team-only will get better
2. Grove College- uhhh hello–Sprinters!
3. Merchant Marine had a great nationals
4. Colby College- Women had a great nationals
5. Hope College-seems like they did well
Just my opinion…but who really listens to me anyway.
April 14, 2007 at 4:09 pm #37608
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