Up and Coming Programs? Programs on the decline?

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    • #12528
      oldswimnfool
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      Just out of curiosity, I would like to hear from as many of you as possible – which programs do you see improving? Whose results were surprising this year at NCAA’s – who had swimmers there or more swimmers than expected? On the reverse side – who didn’t have as many, or has slowly or quickly started to fall in the last year(s)?

      Starting with

      Up
      Luther College

      Down
      Trinity Tx

    • #37599
      polarbear
      Member

      Connecticut College on the upswing
      Hamilton on the downswing

    • #37600
      Anonymous
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      REALLY BAD TOPIC … MOVE ON GENTLEMEN.

    • #37601
      DonCheadle
      Member

      This is a good topic, but will prbably turn ugly.

      Something I have noticed:

      Over the past 20 or more years the MIAC and the MIAA have alternated which conference was better:

      In the Mid 80’s to ealy 90’s the MIAC was better
      From 92-03 the MIAA was better
      From 04-present the MIAC was better (in 05 and 06 alot better)

      The MIAA is coming making a comeback just as Gustavus and Olaf lose one of their best classes in history. Still, going into next year the MIAC is better, but it actually might be close for the first time in a while.

    • #37602

      BAD TOPIC … MOVE ON GENTLEMEN.

      It doesn’t have to be – just focus on the good. Make it a love-fest.

      On the way up . . .
      Luther – Men & Women are just under the radar.
      Mary Washington – Where’d those girls come from?
      Coe – New coach (http://www.collegeswimming.com/news/2007/apr/12/jennings-reins-coe-college/)
      UCSC – Proving JC transfers are good
      MIT – They’re back but this time with depth
      Merchant Marine – A learning year at NCAA’s
      Springfield – Now more than divers.
      Wabash – Young’uns just miss relay bubble again

      If Trinity actually gets Taylor Clark, they’re up in a big way – at least it will look like it.

      – The ORIGINAL Mr. Obvious

    • #37603
      Anonymous
      Member

      A love fest … a much better idea than identifying those who are struggling.

    • #37604
      Mr. Obvious
      Member

      I think this is about the time Swim5599 is supposed to chime in about Mark Schmitt and Paul Gyorfi being an up and coming program.

    • #37605
      oldswimnfool
      Member

      Just to clarify – I am actually WAY more interested in the up and coming programs, but I do know and understand that we are in a very cyclical sport and programs rise and fall based on recruiting, coaching changes or even more minor issues. My women’s team this year could easily have been the worst in the country, and last year they were decent…… lose one strong swimmer and things change….. My intent was never to say that so-and-so team is bad, just to point out what I had noticed. When I started coaching Trinity TX was a pretty strong team and I had been impressed – a lone d3 school in a largely d3 swimming unpopulated area…… I have no bones against Trinity……. I have no problem keeping it more positive – so lets move on with the teams on the upswing –

    • #37606
      swim5599
      Member

      I would not say this is an up and coming team, but one of the biggest surprises was how well Wash U did despite losing those 2 horses last year. Leckey, Bullock, Kushner, and Beyer pretty good group I would say.

    • #37607
      2000swimmer
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      Up and Up:
      1. Luther College-coaching/solid team-only will get better
      2. Grove College- uhhh hello–Sprinters!
      3. Merchant Marine had a great nationals
      4. Colby College- Women had a great nationals
      5. Hope College-seems like they did well

      Just my opinion…but who really listens to me anyway.

    • #37608
      DonCheadle
      Member

      @2000swimmer wrote:

      5. Hope College-seems like they did well

      Hope and Kzoo are two programs that, up until the last few years, consistently finished in the top 10. I pretty sure that both will be in the top 10 again really soon.

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