Ted Marschall Loafs Relays?

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    • #12315

      Relay splits from the Carleton Olaf duel.

      Carleton College – MN-MN ‘A’ 3:16.71
      Friedlander-Holm, David – 47.81
      Plotz, Jared – 48.86
      Kruesi, Will – 49.98 *
      Marschall, Ted – 50.06

      * Will Kruesi beat Ted by .08 and was only able to go a 1:53 in the 200 free. Ted Marschal had a 1:54 in the 200IM during this meet.

      His relay split in the 400 FR at conference last year : 48.9. If a swimmer can go a 1:51 in the 200 IM, he should be able to do a 46.0 tapered 100 free with a relay start. I can only conclude that Ted Marschall loafs relays and should not be considered for MIAC swimmer of the meet until he starts giving 100% to relays.

    • #34972
      Eagle in 01
      Member

      Or maybe he was just tired from going a 1:54 all of 5 minutes earlier and could not get below a 50.0. As for conference I’ve found him leading off the 400 FR in a 48.38. Plus Ted seems to be in the same boat as Skyler Davis in the fact that the longer the race is the faster he is in it.

    • #34973
      Kari Byron
      Member

      I would have to agree with Eagle on this one. I doubt Ted is loafing anything, he just swam his heart out right before the relay and couldn’t muster anything else. I wouldn’t rip on him too much Mac, he’s faster than you ever were.

    • #34974

      From conference last year
      57.33 100 breast split
      26.3 50 breast split
      1:44 200 free split
      48.3 100 free split, 6th place

      The 48.3 is very slow for a swimmer of his caliber, as is the 1:44. The breast stroke splits are all-out. Still, if you are a triple A cut swimmer, you should be able to lead your team to better than a 6th place relay finish in the MIACs.

      And Ms. Byron, unless you pulled tongue with me at some party years ago, and have been stalking me since, you have no idea who I am.

      @Kari Byron wrote:

      I would have to agree with Eagle on this one. I doubt Ted is loafing anything, he just swam his heart out right before the relay and couldn’t muster anything else. I wouldn’t rip on him too much Mac, he’s faster than you ever were.

    • #34975
      Kari Byron
      Member

      @Mac of the MIAC wrote:

      From conference last year
      57.33 100 breast split
      26.3 50 breast split
      1:44 200 free split
      48.3 100 free split, 6th place

      The 48.3 is very slow for a swimmer of his caliber, as is the 1:44. The breast stroke splits are all-out. Still, if you are a triple A cut swimmer, you should be able to lead your team to better than a 6th place relay finish in the MIACs.

      Maybe Ted is an all out stroker. I’ve known more than one swimmer who could do breast, fly, and back like there was no tomorrow but swam free like an age grouper. I don’t think it’s that uncommon for a great IMer to work on stroke so much that they lose their freestyle edge. I doubt that Marshall is all to blame for the 6th place relay. There were 3 other guys on the relay and if he’s the 4th fastest on the team, he gets the spot.

      @Mac of the MIAC wrote:

      And Ms. Byron, unless you pulled tongue with me at some party years ago, and have been stalking me since, you have no idea who I am.

      As disgusting as that sounds, you should maybe ask around your groupies and see if you can’t figure me out. Amazing how this site works… You can actually have multiple user names! Maybe I know you better than you think I do…

    • #34976

      Where is Frizzy on this one? He/she should know what the real story is. Frizzy claims Ted is the fastest sprinter on the team.

      I’d think he could go faster for an A-cut caliber IM-er. But only Ted knows… or Frizzy… or Andy Clark… or assistant to the head coach Brook Larson… or Gay Gregg from the Reub.

      As for Byron, you must either be GAC alumni or a current student, or assistant to the assistant head coach Gary Whyte… my guess is that you are either Steve Ligouri or E-Man or Brian Beckstrom or one of the Brace Brothers or assistant to the head coach Andy Hagen’s wife Jina or Ryan Hoag or James Weatherbee or Sarah Krohn or Reid Foster or Arshad Bachelani… I could keep going, but people have stopped reading.

      As for Mac, I assume you are one of GACs all-time greatest flyers… Sam Wigersma.

    • #34977

      @Mac of the MIAC wrote:

      His relay split in the 400 FR at conference last year : 48.9. If a swimmer can go a 1:51 in the 200 IM, he should be able to do a 46.0 tapered 100 free with a relay start. I can only conclude that Ted Marschall loafs relays and should not be considered for MIAC swimmer of the meet until he starts giving 100% to relays.

      Brendan Hanson was about a 1:47- 1:48 200 IMer. I don’t think he can barely do a 46.0 with a relay start, and there is no doubt he is a stud. I may be going out on a limb (since I don’t know the kid), but I would tend to think Marshall would take offense to anyone saying he loafs anything, and I am willing to bet his teammates and coaches would also. Unless you see him practice and know what he is capable of, I would not say anything about him loafing anything. Such comments only show your lack of any real Knowlege of the sport.

    • #34978
      frizzy
      Member

      Thank you ACT, I can assert that Ted, along with his teammates and coaches would take offense to the title of this thread.
      Sorry Chapel Partner, I took Monday off… and forgot to check D3S&D forums.

      Now, for the real defense. Let’s start last February. In the 400 FR, Ted had just–almost–completed his first MIAC championship meet, in which he swam hella fast. He had the top split on his 800 FR, by ~2 seconds if memory serves, he had 2 individual titles (2 & 4 IMs) and one runner-up (see some other thread for discussion thereof: mile vs. 200 Breast) and might just have been tired.
      He was given the lead of the 400 FR since two of the four guys on that relay were in the open 100 that day and, why not, he’s a quick kid, let him see what he’s got, right? Well, he might have been tired. And thats okay. That doesn’t qualify as loafing in my book.
      As for the 6th place finish by that relay, a 3:12.32 isn’t a slow swim by that group considering the two then-juniors had only been on one faster 400 FR, a 3:11.95 when they were frosh with two juniors on their 400 FR. If you want to place blame for that placing, place it either at the feet of the conference as a whole for getting fast or at the feet of their anchor, Friedlander-Holm, for swimming slow. Anchors are anchors for a reason: to step up or take the blame.

      Now, moving to this February. Let’s look at Ted’s swimming versus St. Olaf.
      1000 Free: 9:56.78
      500 Free: 4:51.00
      200 IM: 1:54.54
      400 FR (split): 50.06.

      Let’s break this down. In which event did Ted have anyone near him?
      1000 Free: Wins by ~6 seconds.
      500 Free: Wins by more than 13 seconds.
      200 IM: touched out by Nelson Westby by .12 seconds.
      400 FR: Given ~ 2 second lead, wins by more than half a second.

      Let’s break down his so-called loafed swim, the anchor of his team’s 400 Free relay:
      Splits: 23.23, 26.83 –>50.06
      He went for it, and you know what, might have been tired, imagine that! I’d venture to say that going for it and swimming all out from the time he left the block, even though it resulted in the slowest time on his relay, was the most beneficial way for him to swim his race. Sure, if he’d paced his 100 he probably could have squeaked out another tenth or two, but thats not how he wants to swim the 100; it is an all out from the go, no holds barred, only breathing a little more than the 50 on the way out.

      Finally, how much does it matter? I mean, MIAC championship meet is this week. The Knights haven’t tapered yet this year, Ted and his teammates will be ready. More ready this year than last year now that the top Knight sprinters have one MIAC meet under their belts. Ted and his classmate, Jared Plotz, a consistent 400 FR teammate of Ted’s, are prepared for how long that meet really is. You all know how frosh some times swim poorly in the MIAC meet because of it’s length. Heck, you probably know upperclasspersons of whom that is also true, I sure do.

      Thats all for now, I’ll add more later if I feel like it won’t ruin my taper.

    • #34979
      Kari Byron
      Member

      @Chapel Partner wrote:

      As for Byron, you must either be GAC alumni or a current student, or assistant to the assistant head coach Gary Whyte… my guess is that you are either Steve Ligouri or E-Man or Brian Beckstrom or one of the Brace Brothers or assistant to the head coach Andy Hagen’s wife Jina or Ryan Hoag or James Weatherbee or Sarah Krohn or Reid Foster or Arshad Bachelani… I could keep going, but people have stopped reading.

      Correct, Chapel Partner. I am indeed a GAC alum. As to which one, well I’ll guess we’ll have to wait until Conference in the stands to figure that out. Perhaps a discussion of this matter over a few at Sally’s would be in order?

    • #34980

      Ahh the post-meet Sally’s beer… Right up there with the pre-meet beer at Big Tens, and the diving break beer in the parking lot… good times.

      But unfortunately I’m out of town this weekend and will miss the entire meet. I’ll be sending my proxy, E-Man’s Revenge, with a web-cam on his head so that I won’t miss a thing.

      Maybe I’ll run into you at the premiere of “Pride.”

      Good luck with the taper Frizzy. Try to stay away from using the stairs this week (that means no trips to the basement of the Sci-Fi house). And let Terrien and Kruesi know I need them to step it up for my fantasy team… like I’ve said before, Carleton guys usually taper well.

    • #34981
      frizzy
      Member

      Then Chapel Partner, who are you? A Knight Alum? The real question about ‘chapel’ is does it refer to the east or west side of the Cannon…

    • #34982
      lane 6er
      Member

      Perhaps the matter of sixth place doesn’t have to fall on any one person’s shoulders. I think that carleton had a good relay, it just happens that St. Thomas, St. John’s and Hamline were faster than them. I wouldn’t be surprised if Carleton gets sixth in some more relays this weekend the way things are stacking up. You can’t blame one person because other teams are faster.

    • #34983

      @Its all an ACT wrote:

      Such comments only show your lack of any real Knowlege of the sport.

      You have very poor grammar. Is “Knowledge” a proper noun, ACT? Is “Knowledge” some IM’er from Kenyon? If he is, I bet that he doesn’t loaf relays.

    • #34984

      @Kari Byron wrote:

      @Chapel Partner wrote:

      As for Byron, you must either be GAC alumni or a current student, or assistant to the assistant head coach Gary Whyte… my guess is that you are either Steve Ligouri or E-Man or Brian Beckstrom or one of the Brace Brothers or assistant to the head coach Andy Hagen’s wife Jina or Ryan Hoag or James Weatherbee or Sarah Krohn or Reid Foster or Arshad Bachelani… I could keep going, but people have stopped reading.

      Correct, Chapel Partner. I am indeed a GAC alum. As to which one, well I’ll guess we’ll have to wait until Conference in the stands to figure that out. Perhaps a discussion of this matter over a few at Sally’s would be in order?

      You are a dude. Is your World of Warcraft avatar a chick as well, Gary?

    • #34985
      Kari Byron
      Member

      @Mac of the MIAC wrote:

      You are a dude.

      Correct, sir!

      @Mac of the MIAC wrote:

      Is your World of Warcraft avatar a chick as well, Gary?

      If you’re implying that I’m Assistant to the Assistant Head Coach, Garrison Whyte, you’re informant has poorly misled you. It would be unwise for a Coach to become involved on this forum and speculate the way we do. I think that could possibly have some ramifications from the NCAA.

      As a side note though, I think that a female World of Warcraft avatar could be potentially misleading and work to your advantage.

    • #34986
      Kari Byron
      Member

      @Chapel Partner wrote:

      Ahh the post-meet Sally’s beer… Right up there with the pre-meet beer at Big Tens, and the diving break beer in the parking lot… good times.

      Indeed.

      @Chapel Partner wrote:

      But unfortunately I’m out of town this weekend and will miss the entire meet. I’ll be sending my proxy, E-Man’s Revenge, with a web-cam on his head so that I won’t miss a thing.

      We’ll miss you Chapel. Glad you’ll be there in spirit.

      @Chapel Partner wrote:

      Maybe I’ll run into you at the premiere of “Pride.”

      That would be nice. What’s your theater of choice?

    • #34987
      CRUNCHYSOCK
      Member

      Best post ever! There is nothing funnier than taunting people into over-reacting to an obviously inflamatory statement, goading them into attacking you personally, then taking their personal attack personally, and personally attacking them back. GOLD! Tried and true anonymous message board posting humor.

      Of course He doesn’t loaf relays. He was either tired, or can’t swim freestyle. He was most likely born without the latisimus dosimus maximus tendon that allows one to swim freestyle efficiently. In fact, most breatstrokers are afflicked with this disorder, and only in rare cases are they able to muster much more than 50 ugly yards to limp home a 200 IM. Right Casey?

      Closed Circuit to Chapel: I’ve known you for over 10 years, and lived with you several different times. Learn how to spell my name.

    • #34988

      Crunchy, as long as the checks cash, don’t worry about how I spell your name.

      Frizzy, not a Carleton alum… not smart enough. But I did go to prom with assistant to the assistant head coach Brooke Larsen.

      Byron, sorry I can’t release that info before a thorough background check and assurance that you are not an Online predator (or Gary Whyte)… I’ve been fooled before, and one can never be too careful. Plus, if I say where I’m going, middie07 might show up and say I look like a farm animal.

    • #34989

      @Mac of the MIAC wrote:

      @Its all an ACT wrote:

      You have very poor grammar. Is “Knowledge” a proper noun, ACT? Is “Knowledge” some IM’er from Kenyon? If he is, I bet that he doesn’t loaf relays.

      Yes, I do have poor grammar. Never did well in English class or thought of Majoring in it. I am like Ralph Wiggum when it comes to grammer. My poor grammer does not change the fact that this is a swimming web site and you have proven to know little to nothing of the sport.

    • #34990
      RustieGustie
      Member
      Chapel Partner wrote:
      As for Byron, you must either be GAC alumni or a current student, or assistant to the assistant head coach Gary Whyte… my guess is that you are either Steve Ligouri or E-Man or Brian Beckstrom or one of the Brace Brothers or assistant to the head coach Andy Hagen’s wife Jina or Ryan Hoag or James Weatherbee or Sarah Krohn or Reid Foster or Arshad Bachelani… I could keep going, but people have stopped reading.

      He’s definitely not Brian Beckstrom…

      How about Matt Dittmore?

    • #34991
      frizzy
      Member

      Chapel, pray tell, who is the “assistant to the assistant head coach Brooke Larsen?”

      How about the Lakeville theater for Pride?

    • #34992

      Frizzy, you must not be a current Carleton swimmer if you don’t know Carleton assistant to the head coach Brooke Larsen. She is to Andy Clark what Andy Hagen is to Jon Carlson… the straw that stirs the drink.

      My guess is that you are either Marie Marsman or Dave Cameron… or maybe former St. Thomas and St. Mary’s star Tom Conway.

      Like I told Byron, I’ll need to do a background check on you before seeing any movies. Don’t think I won’t have Dateline show up.

    • #34993

      @RustieGustie wrote:

      He’s definitely not Brian Beckstrom…

      How about Matt Dittmore?

      Brian Beckstrom is on the board. I knew it. Lurker!

      Brian, are you a priest, yet?

    • #34994
      RustieGustie
      Member

      Brian, are you a priest, yet?[/quote]

      Actually, a Pastor. I’m Lutheran 🙂

    • #34995
      swim5599
      Member

      Hansen was actually 1:46 mid in the IM, and I also think he would struggle to split 46.0 on a relay

    • #34996

      For the record… Marschall did split a 46 in the final relay. I wonder if Mac of the MIAC’s words teed him off at all… either way, he had a great meet and should do well at nats.

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