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    • #12532
      JHU84
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      With the competion in DIII getting stronger every year how hard will swimmers work this summer.

      How will you train this summer – what meets will you attend nationals, sectionals, local club?

    • #37632
      DUSwim2010
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      With the new NCAA rules regarding competition w/high school athletes it is difficult to tell where I will be able to compete meet wise this summer. I will be training with my club team, though.

    • #37633
      swmwl1
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      Bylaw 3.11.1.2 does not affect your ability to compete in the summer. As a DIII athlete you cannot represent your school in the summer anyway and therefore you would not be in violation of the rule. Specifically, the by-law only applies to swimmers/divers who represent their university team during the academic school year when class is in session.

    • #37634
      Psimon3
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      @swmwl1 wrote:

      Bylaw 3.11.1.2 does not affect your ability to compete in the summer. As a DIII athlete you cannot represent your school in the summer anyway and therefore you would not be in violation of the rule. Specifically, the by-law only applies to swimmers/divers who represent their university team during the academic school year when class is in session.

      That is not true, athletes are representative of the university programs regardless of whether they are on a club sponsored team or not and while training with high school athletes is permissible, no college athlete is permitted to compete in the same heat as a prospective student, regardless of their division. Our compliance officer received clarification on this ruling a few weeks back as some of our athletes were concerned about their ability to compete.

    • #37635
      swmwl1
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      The Big East, Big Ten and Big 12 have all recevied this interpretation for 13.1.1.2 (the one I posted above)

      The bylaw affects people who are competing for the university team, or are receving support (financial, equipment, etc..) at the competition. You can’t do this in the summer in DIII anyway.

      the CSCAA is engaged in a, so far, very succesful lobbying campaign with the NCAA. There will be a meeting today which will hopefully lead to Swimming and Diving being exempted from 13.1.1.2

    • #37636
      zinlover
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      Could someone fill me in on university affiliated club teams? Can a D3 swimmer swim for a D1 team training over the summer? How can one find out which universities would allow this? Can a D3 swimmer contact the coach of a D1 club team to see if he can swim there?

    • #37637
      99 Red
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      A D1 team (like say, Club Wolverine) is a USS team, and USS teams can have whoever they want to have on them. I don’t know how well a swimmer talking to a coach would work, but if your DIII coach knows the DI coach affliated with the program, they could probably put in a phone call for you.

    • #37638
      swmwl1
      Member

      http://www.collegeswimming.com/news/2007/apr/17/ncaa-management-council-reverses-decision/

      Phil Whitten, ED of the CSCAA led an excellent campaign to reverse this interpretation

      Thanks Phil!!

    • #37639
      JHU84
      Member

      @swmwl1 wrote:

      http://www.collegeswimming.com/news/2007/apr/17/ncaa-management-council-reverses-decision/

      Phil Whitten, ED of the CSCAA led an excellent campaign to reverse this interpretation

      Thanks Phil!!

      That is very good – I know many of our HS swimmers really enjoy competing and swimming with college swimmers

    • #37640

      @zinlover wrote:

      Could someone fill me in on university affiliated club teams? Can a D3 swimmer swim for a D1 team training over the summer? How can one find out which universities would allow this? Can a D3 swimmer contact the coach of a D1 club team to see if he can swim there?

      In years past yes. Many swimmers from Minnesota have trained with Minnesota Aquatics over the years. Randy Boelk from stevens point I believe did. Conner Zigler from GAC has, and I believe Matt Zelen from St. John’s also did. There have been some swimmers that have gone to Texas and trained with Eddie Reese, I believe one national record holder in the 100 free did back in the day.

    • #37641
      Vic
      Member

      I think that summer training is very important for swimmers and that just about everyone can benefit from it. There may be the occasional swimmer who needs a long break to recharge for another long season, but training over the summer will help almost everyone. Most of the best swimmers are year round swimmers. That’s just the way works. It always annoys me when a swimmer is upset that they didn’t do very well at their end of a season meet when that person never trained during the offseason. If you want to get better, you have to put in the work, which includes swimming over the summer.

      I noticed that a lot fewer swimmers on my college team (Kalamazoo) swam over the summer than on my high school team (Ann Arbor Pioneer). Almost all of the swimmers on my high school team swam in the summer, but I would say only about a half to three quarters of the Kalamazoo swimmers trained seriously over the summer. They were both serious teams, so I don’t think that was a problem. It may be that some d3 swimmers go home over the summer and don’t have their teammates and coaches to push them to train, so the less motivated ones just don’t do it. Has anyone else noticed this?

    • #37642

      I tend to think just staying active is enough when it comes to summer training. Such as: Playing an outdoor sport where you can retain some semblance of a base for training.

      Swimming “in-shape” is much different than any other kind of “in-shape” but the transition back to season is really easy when you have been doing something to get the heart rate up for a prolonged period, daily. Doesn’t necessarily have to be swimming in my opinion… unless you are training for a meet at the end of the summer.

    • #37643
      JHU84
      Member

      In response to the summer training – I found it hard to get back in with a club since I didn’t train with a club during the end of the school year april/ may. Where do college swimmers swim during that time – can they train with their college coach?

    • #37644
      swim5599
      Member

      Training over the summer is big time important for improvement. You probably do not have to blast out 15 grand a day, but if you swam long course for about 2 hours a day and did some dryland you would be set for a big year.

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