Sarah Koepp Out?

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    • #12837

      This was originally posted in the Women’s forum, but I thought I’d duplicate here to get it more attention from the posters.

      I’ve heard that Sarah Keopp, Gustavus’ sophomore breaststroke phenom, has been laid up due to shoulder surgery. While my sources were not able to confirm this, it is on good authority. Also, she is not listed in the results of the triangular held at Gustavus on 11/17.

      Anyone know anything?

    • #41029
      wonderboy33
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      I can ask her club coach Rocky O”Neill tomorrow to see if he knows anything. We have a meet that evening. That is unless those in the know are able to answer it before then.

    • #41030
      Tiger2
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      @Rustie Gustie wrote:

      I’ve heard that Sarah Keopp, Gustavus’ sophomore breaststroke phenom, has been laid up due to shoulder surgery…..Anyone know anything?

      I haven’t heard anything about Koepp (and I would hardly call her a phenom), but if it’s true that she’s injured, I suspect that the freshman Erickson has the potential to fill in quite nicely.

    • #41031
      Big Tuna
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      Koepp is out for the rest of this season, but she will be swimming next season. The Olaf meet was her last race.

    • #41032
      LittleB
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      While Erickson can definitely replace Koepp as the top breaststroker for GAC, losing around 40 points of top 8 finishes (top 3 or 4 in the 1 and 2 breaststrokes) should make conference a bit closer…

    • #41033

      @LittleB wrote:

      While Erickson can definitely replace Koepp as the top breaststroker for GAC, losing around 40 points of top 8 finishes (top 3 or 4 in the 1 and 2 breaststrokes) should make conference a bit closer…

      Who do you see in the mix? The typical mess of Carleton, St. Olaf, and Gustavus? Is there another women’s team out there that could challenge?

    • #41034
      LittleB
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      I think it will come down to Olaf, Gac, and Carleton for first. But I think St. Bens will be a close fourth…they have some solid swimmers – especially a quick 200 free relay (if they can manage to swim it when it matters rather than swim fast in a time trial the next day). Maybe I’m wrong but I don’t think they have enough depth right now to contend for first.

    • #41035
      silentp
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      If the MIAC was top 12, rather than top 16, my pick would be Carleton, but as it stands, GAC should be able to win, even without Koepp. It is a big blow to the team and National relay hopes though (not that they are dead). They will need a flyer to step up for both, with the loss of Yoshi.

    • #41036
      Tiger2
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      @silentp wrote:

      It is a big blow to the team and National relay hopes though (not that they are dead). They will need a flyer to step up for both, with the loss of Yoshi.

      I think the biggest problem for GAC’s short relays is the loss of freestyler Laura Watkins. Although she wasn’t able to swim at Nationals, she really came through for the team at Conference. Despite her injury, she swam the fastest splits at the meet, in both the 200 FR and the 200 MR.
      This year, Emma Espel has already posted some seriously fast butterfly times in the 200 MR, and I think Erickson in the breaststroke could come close to Koepp’s times….but GAC desperately needs a fast 50 free to fill Watkins shoes.

    • #41037

      Is she getting surgery or something on the shoulder?

      I know Courtney Tussing swam about 2 practices a week his senior year due to a bad back. I also know a guy who quit for a month during the middle of the season. Both these guys made nationals on the free relays with pretty fast times.

      I know the sprints are different, and I don’t even know what Koepp swims (breast and fly from what I gather), but why is she automatically out for a meet that is 2-3 months away?

      From personal experience, I went abroad for J-Term one season, missed 2-3 weeks of practice during the heart of the season, and still posted times that were the same as any other year if not faster.

      Taper is mental as much as physical. Get her in a big meet, and she might go close to as fast as she would with a full season training.

      Plus, I do not have any science behind this, but I usually thought women taper drops were not as drastic as men’s. So her not fully tapering is not the end of the world for performing well at conference.

    • #41038
      Tiger2
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      Rustie said she’s having surgery.

    • #41039
      Tiger2
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      Carleton’s Becky Alexander seems to be MIA. I’m assuming she’s studying abroad and will be swimming again in January.
      Can LittleB or someone confirm?

    • #41040
      LittleB
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      Can anyone clarify if Koepp is out for good or if she plans to try to swim after recovery…I agree she can probably still swim real quick. I think 3,000 yard practices are sufficient and can lead to a solid taper!
      Alexander was abroad this fall along with 4 other Carleton women. Will be back for the training trip/winter season.
      I don’t know if I agree with Chapel Partners taper comment regarding women versus men. I think it comes down to the fact that taper is such a mental thing rather than a physical thing. From personal experience the girls that are convinced that girls peak at the age of 14 usually taper poorly. Girls that have their heads on right taper just fine…
      Can Sarah Pfau do the 50? Just wondering because she had a real quick 100 on the end of the 4 med last year.

    • #41041
      wonderboy33
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      I think Big Tuna already clarified that she is out for the season, though I’m not sure whether his sources are reliable or not. A limited practice schedule is fine if you are swimming sprint free. For other events, it gets a little tougher. Breastroke is an event that in my experience, you need to maintain a good feel for the water, timing, etc. I’m not sure what the alternatives are for GAC (as I don’t keep up with the women) but if they have someone decent that can step in, and is training full-time, that would be ideal.

      My experience tapering men vs. women is a bit skewed. I’ve had better performances from women due to the fact that, honestly, the women were harder workers. I think that’s the biggest aspect involved with swimming fast during taper. You have to put in the work in order to get the most significant gains. As far as the mental side is concerned, if you’ve put in the work, you will be much more confident come taper time. The women need more reassurance and positive feedback during this time. It’s up to the coach to sell the plan and the taper to the swimmers.

    • #41042

      I should note that I have no basis at all for my assessment of women’s tapers. I didn’t really know women’s times when I swam other than when they were fast enough to score at a guys meet (ie: Marsman).

      I guess surgery does make it less likely she comes back this year. What is the surgery for? Rotator cuff? Is it more of a Liriano type Tommy John thing that will keep her from using the arm much for a year? Or is it more like getting it scoped Varsity Blues style and being able to play the next game if coach Kilmer needs you?

    • #41043
      silentp
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      @LittleB wrote:

      Can Sarah Pfau do the 50? Just wondering because she had a real quick 100 on the end of the 4 med last year.

      Nope, doubt she even has the speed to make the 2FR, let alone anchor that one. She swam breast on the 200 MR a couple years ago, after swimming back the year prior, but it’s doubtful she has the freestyle speed to make that spot. I’d guess Piehl (sp?) or a freshman would grab it. My inside sources also tell me she had a shot in her shoulder and wasn’t able to swim over break, so she could be negatively impacted at the midseason meet.

    • #41044

      @silentp wrote:

      My inside sources also tell me she had a shot in her shoulder and wasn’t able to swim over break, so she could be negatively impacted at the midseason meet.

      She whom? Piehl, Koepp, Pfau, or this mystery freshman? My guess is that you are referring to Pfau and were being funny by saying “inside source” since it would then be you that was the source.

    • #41045
      The Treat
      Member

      @Rustie Gustie wrote:

      @silentp wrote:

      My inside sources also tell me she had a shot in her shoulder and wasn’t able to swim over break, so she could be negatively impacted at the midseason meet.

      She whom? Piehl, Koepp, Pfau, or this mystery freshman? My guess is that you are referring to Pfau and were being funny by saying “inside source” since it would then be you that was the source.

      he’s probably referring to the person who’s name is mentioned in the quoted text, sarah pfau, who he said he would doubt if she would swim it.

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