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Coaches voting again this week.
http://www.collegeswimming.com/media/documents/DivisionIII-December.pdfMy top ten:
1. Denison (only because they already beat KC and you need divers in a dual).
2. Kenyon (too many people in nearly every single event)
3. Emory
4. Johns Hopkins (diving hurts, or I’d have them up there too)
5. WashU (beating DePauw helps strength-of-schedule)
6. DePauw – faster than you think. Can they dive?
7. UWSP – They’re so fast its Gross.
8. W&L – If it was just freestyle, they’re #1
9. KZoo – Breaststrokers win medley relays-they’ve got two
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One thought, obviously biased, as I think about this. In a dual meet format, winning events is at a premium. If you can get first in an event, you gain a point on the other team regardless. And if you win the relay it’s 5 pts at the least. Because of this, I like JHU’s chances in a dual meet against anyone because they have the stud to win events and relays.
You can match them up with each team and see ways they win it with much less depth. At an invite format if would be much different, as depth becomes much more important and EU and KC are obvious favorites.
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@JHUBreaststroke06 wrote:
One thought, obviously biased, as I think about this. In a dual meet format, winning events is at a premium. If you can get first in an event, you gain a point on the other team regardless. And if you win the relay it’s 5 pts at the least. Because of this, I like JHU’s chances in a dual meet against anyone because they have the stud to win events and relays.
You can match them up with each team and see ways they win it with much less depth. At an invite format if would be much different, as depth becomes much more important and EU and KC are obvious favorites.
Ok lets run through it event by event to see how many Hopkins would win in a dual
Medley Relay: Hopkins
1000 Free: Kenyon
200 Free: Kenyon (Test swimming 2 relays)
100 Back: Hopkins
100 Breast: Hopkins
50 Free: Hopkins
1M Diving: Kenyon
100 Free: Hopkins
200 Back: Hopkins
200 Breast: Hopkins
500 Free: Kenyon
100 Fly: Kenyon
3m Diving: Kenyon
200 IM: Kenyon
Free Relay: Hopkins
The final tally: Hopkins 9 events to Kenyons 7 in a 16 event program. But with Hopkins garnering no diving points and likely getting killed depthwise in the events that they do win, I think Hopkins would lose this meet. But it would be pretty awesome to have it happen.
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aquaholic wrote:8. W&L – If it was just freestyle, they’re #1
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strong comment- id say they are strong in the 50 thru 200 frees, giving them a great relay advantage, but pasted Sweet and McGlaston (Gross, too/two) they lack the depth that JHU, Denison, Kenyon… (Wash U, UWSP, DePauw) have for those 3 relays. Also, where are their guys in the 5 and mile…probably giving up because of Kenyons 7 guys and Emorys 5 under 440.im shocked you didnt mention MIT, they will turn heads in march.
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@Colbybr wrote:
@JHUBreaststroke06 wrote:
One thought, obviously biased, as I think about this. In a dual meet format, winning events is at a premium. If you can get first in an event, you gain a point on the other team regardless. And if you win the relay it’s 5 pts at the least. Because of this, I like JHU’s chances in a dual meet against anyone because they have the stud to win events and relays.
You can match them up with each team and see ways they win it with much less depth. At an invite format if would be much different, as depth becomes much more important and EU and KC are obvious favorites.
Ok lets run through it event by event to see how many Hopkins would win in a dual
Medley Relay: Hopkins
1000 Free: Kenyon
200 Free: Kenyon (Test swimming 2 relays)
100 Back: Hopkins
100 Breast: Hopkins
50 Free: Hopkins
1M Diving: Kenyon
100 Free: Hopkins
200 Back: Hopkins
200 Breast: Hopkins
500 Free: Kenyon
100 Fly: Kenyon
3m Diving: Kenyon
200 IM: Kenyon
Free Relay: Hopkins
The final tally: Hopkins 9 events to Kenyons 7 in a 16 event program. But with Hopkins garnering no diving points and likely getting killed depthwise in the events that they do win, I think Hopkins would lose this meet. But it would be pretty awesome to have it happen.
Thats a pretty fair rundown. Although if if want to go on best times this year, JHU has the 200 IM with Mahoney and the 200 is very close between Mahoney and Withington. Those 2 races would decide the meet. I think the KC people would say the 200 BR is a toss up. Also, does KC have 3 divers and would they use them? When we swam them my SR year, there was no diving scored at all.
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@wickedfoolish wrote:
@aquaholic wrote:
8. W&L – If it was just freestyle, they’re #1
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strong comment- id say they are strong in the 50 thru 200 frees, giving them a great relay advantage, but pasted Sweet and McGlaston (Gross, too/two) they lack the depth that JHU, Denison, Kenyon… (Wash U, UWSP, DePauw) have for those 3 relays. Also, where are their guys in the 5 and mile…probably giving up because of Kenyons 7 guys and Emorys 5 under 440.im shocked you didnt mention MIT, they will turn heads in march.
–Crook is a pretty solid 500 guy(4:44/5 already I think) and I think they have a kid named Tateman who same distance for them his freshmen year, but has had shoulder problems recently. Tateman may have to swim distance again in order for them to win their conference meet. So ya never know.
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