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    • #12612

      how is cmu looking now that dr belowich is gone? i heard that there won’t be a cmu, hopkins emory tri-meet because of it. has their recruiting suffered too?
      how’d wash u end up recruiting wise? how did emory end up? anyone ready to name names/give times yet?

    • #38265
      CaseBrst10
      Member

      I know UChicago is getting a stud from Birmingham Groves, Mich, in James Schlabach, 1:43 and 47.1 coming out of high school.

    • #38266
      Djinntsai
      Member

      One big guy coming in for Wash U is David Chao. He’s 21.45 in the 50, 47.1 in the hundred

    • #38267
      swim5599
      Member

      That is pretty good so I am assuming that when Shively is done with him he will be about 20.3 and 44.5.

    • #38268
      Djinntsai
      Member

      Lol. Perhaps. I’m thinking he’ll just get converted into a 200 freestyler like everyone else, making an 800 relay of Leckey, Beyer, Chao, and Kushner……..That would be disgusting

    • #38269
      swimming1
      Member

      Has anyone heard anything about Emory or NYU’s incoming freshman?

    • #38270

      i heard nyu got a 6’9” kid from lithuania that wasn’t even going to swim but decided like 2 weeks ago that he was going to. kid is supposed to be 20.high in the 50…could shake up the uaa.

    • #38271
      swimming1
      Member

      Why is a kid from Lithuania swimming a 50 yard freestyle?

    • #38272
      trout3
      Member

      @screeeeeeeeech wrote:

      i heard nyu got a 6’9” kid from lithuania that wasn’t even going to swim but decided like 2 weeks ago that he was going to. kid is supposed to be 20.high in the 50…could shake up the uaa.

      NYU already has a kid that does 20. Now if this kid can do backstroke that will cause a shake and a half,,,,(assuming there is a 6’9″ kid)

    • #38273
      The Treat
      Member

      @trout3 wrote:

      @screeeeeeeeech wrote:

      i heard nyu got a 6’9” kid from lithuania that wasn’t even going to swim but decided like 2 weeks ago that he was going to. kid is supposed to be 20.high in the 50…could shake up the uaa.

      NYU already has a kid that does 20. Now if this kid can do backstroke that will cause a shake and a half,,,,(assuming there is a 6’9″ kid)

      relays?

    • #38274
      Djinntsai
      Member

      There is also a 50 point 100 flyguy for Wash U by the name of Michael Flanagan

    • #38275
      silentp
      Member

      @Djinntsai wrote:

      There is also a 50 point 100 flyguy for Wash U by the name of Michael Flanagan

      Can’t find his 50., but here is what I got:

      51.16 100 fly
      1:52.90 200 fly
      1:57.27 200 IM
      1:02.62 100 breast (doesn’t look like a taper meet)

      Pretty impressive, especially that 2fly. Also, since the 200 IM is just a “2nd high school event” for him, he will likely see a big drop in it. Seems to happen quite often in college.

    • #38276
      swim5599
      Member

      That is a pretty big stud they got there. The 200 Fly is by far the most impressive swim on there. Not to bad when you come in with a time that would have been selected already.

    • #38277

      @CaseBrst10 wrote:

      I know UChicago is getting a stud from Birmingham Groves, Mich, in James Schlabach, 1:43 and 47.1 coming out of high school.

      thats not very studly.

    • #38278
      Greenbacks
      Member

      Wickedfoolish is indeed correct.

    • #38279
      silentp
      Member

      @wickedfoolish wrote:

      @CaseBrst10 wrote:

      I know UChicago is getting a stud from Birmingham Groves, Mich, in James Schlabach, 1:43 and 47.1 coming out of high school.

      thats not very studly.

      @Greenbacks wrote:

      Wickedfoolish is indeed correct.

      47.1 is pretty quick coming in (he’s actually 47.06) but his 200 slowed down this past year to a 1:44 so it makes me question the potential there. While he’s very fast, I have to agree with these guys that it’s not quite the studs that other people have mentioned so far.

    • #38280
      CaseBrst10
      Member

      yeah, I meant a stud in high school, I’m from his area, so I swam against him a number of times.

    • #38281
      swim5599
      Member

      IT is a good time to go coming in, and he is going to swim at a school where they have a tradition of getting faster in the freestyle sprints.

    • #38282
      CaseBrst10
      Member

      considering Chicago only had one male make the 200 finals at UAAs and a 1:44/1:43 would’ve been big heat he’s a good addition to their team

    • #38283
      swimming2008
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    • #38284
      swim5599
      Member

      anybody know anything about the other Wash U freshmen.

    • #38285
      silentp
      Member

      @swim5599 wrote:

      anybody know anything about the other Wash U freshmen.

      David Chao is 21.4, 46.7, 1:43.6 free and 53.6 fly

    • #38286
      Swimmom
      Member

      for Wash U girls –

      Freshman Devon O’Leary Breastroker out of Oregon –
      1:06.99 for 100; 2:24.26 for 200;

      Freshman Karin Underwood Backstroker out of Chicago –
      1:00.05 for 100; 2:08.67 for 200

    • #38287
      Djinntsai
      Member

      Brian Kushner had shoulder surgery over the summer. Let’s all hope the best for him and his recovery.

    • #38288
      Djinntsai
      Member

      Oregon? WTF? I forgot that was a state

    • #38289
      swimminfreak
      Member

      Mackenzie Perry:
      100br: 59.64
      200br: 2:08.79
      100fl: 52.37
      200fly: 1:54.74
      200im: 1:57.07
      400im: 4:09.12

      Mark Bernstein:
      100fr: 54.6 lcm
      200fr: 1:43.77
      500fr: 4:37.74
      1650: 15:51.84
      100fl: 52.49
      200fl: 1:53.64, 2:07.6lcm
      100br: 1:00.24
      200im: 1:55.78
      400im: 4:05.31

      Mason White:
      100br: 58.92
      200br: 2:10.37

      And they some other pretty good 200freestylers, and imer, and a pretty good backstroker. This class might help Emory, they should have some NCAA point scorers.

    • #38290
      t3hhammer
      Member

      Wow swimminfreak, you sure do seem to know A LOT about Mark Bernstein! Did you guys go to school together or something? Are you friends with his sister Lauren? What’s also weird is that you posted about his roommate…

    • #38291
      3 6 Mafia
      Member

      @swimminfreak wrote:

      Mackenzie Perry:
      100br: 59.64
      200br: 2:08.79
      100fl: 52.37
      200fly: 1:54.74
      200im: 1:57.07
      400im: 4:09.12

      Mark Bernstein:
      100fr: 54.6 lcm
      200fr: 1:43.77
      500fr: 4:37.74
      1650: 15:51.84
      100fl: 52.49
      200fl: 1:53.64, 2:07.6lcm
      100br: 1:00.24
      200im: 1:55.78
      400im: 4:05.31

      And they some other pretty good 200freestylers, and imer, and a pretty good backstroker. This class might help Emory, they should have some NCAA point scorers.

      why would you write 9 of his events down? Perry wont see the show with those times, maybe the 2breast. Bernstein looks quick, but he doesnt seem to get the whole yards thing down. 143.77 could be pretty studly for a school like U-Chicago, but at Emory, you’ll have to be a 141 to make that relay.

    • #38292
      swimminfreak
      Member

      I am a big Emory fan, my niece and nephew happen to go there. Hopefully, it will be a very competitve season this year. I am looking forwar to seeing the progression of the freshman class, and of other bigger names like Nick Lake and Scott Bobo. Who knows what can happen this year?

    • #38293

      @3 6 Mafia wrote:

      @swimminfreak wrote:

      Mackenzie Perry:
      100br: 59.64
      200br: 2:08.79
      100fl: 52.37
      200fly: 1:54.74
      200im: 1:57.07
      400im: 4:09.12

      Mark Bernstein:
      100fr: 54.6 lcm
      200fr: 1:43.77
      500fr: 4:37.74
      1650: 15:51.84
      100fl: 52.49
      200fl: 1:53.64, 2:07.6lcm
      100br: 1:00.24
      200im: 1:55.78
      400im: 4:05.31

      And they some other pretty good 200freestylers, and imer, and a pretty good backstroker. This class might help Emory, they should have some NCAA point scorers.

      why would you write 9 of his events down? Perry wont see the show with those times, maybe the 2breast. Bernstein looks quick, but he doesnt seem to get the whole yards thing down. 143.77 could be pretty studly for a school like U-Chicago, but at Emory, you’ll have to be a 141 to make that relay.

      rough. I see bernstein scoring in 3. I wicked excited to see Petroff, Brown and now Bernstein race that 2fly… who knows nows, maybe even C.Burke can step in there… but still not as impressive as their 2ims.

    • #38294
      swimminfreak
      Member

      I am a big Emory fan, my niece and nephew both go there. I am looking forward to watching the development of the Freshman class and other bigger names like Nick Lake (shot at a national title in 500 and 1650) and Scott Bobo (2nd in the 200im last year). Hopefully it will be a competitive season. Who knows what will happen?

    • #38295
      silentp
      Member

      @t3hhammer wrote:

      Wow swimminfreak, you sure do seem to know A LOT about Mark Bernstein! Did you guys go to school together or something? Are you friends with his sister Lauren? What’s also weird is that you posted about his roommate…

      HAHAHA, that’s pretty funny.

    • #38296
      The Treat
      Member

      @3 6 Mafia wrote:

      why would you write 9 of his events down? Perry wont see the show with those times, maybe the 2breast. Bernstein looks quick, but he doesnt seem to get the whole yards thing down. 143.77 could be pretty studly for a school like U-Chicago, but at Emory, you’ll have to be a 141 to make that relay.

      not necessarily 1:41. i dont know who emory has behind these four, but they’ll need to replace newton and there is already a 1:42 w/ a relay start on here. i dont know if Dimarco went faster earlier in the year (im too lazy to look it up), but 1:43.77 + college training and this kid will definitely be in the hunt for that relay.

      4 Emory University 6:47.53 6:45.59 30
      1) Scarborough, Randall SO 2) Dimarco, Tom FR
      3) Newton, Tim SR 4) Lake, Nick JR
      1:41.68
      1:42.29
      1:39.86
      1:41.76

    • #38297
      CaseBrst10
      Member

      CMU’s got a pretty big freshmen class this year, 11 total.

      I am including all the times I could find, no I didn’t date any of their sisters, nor was I roommate with any of them…

      Here’s some times based on a quick USA swimming and google search:

      Max Gustafson Fr. Free/Breast Arlington, Va. Thomas Jefferson Science Tech

      50 FR SCY 22.97
      100 FR SCY 51.47
      200 FR SCY 1:55.93
      100 BK SCY 1:01.60
      100 BR SCY 1:04.60
      200 IM SCY 2:12.09

      Alexander Hanson Fr. Free/IM Burnsville, Minn. Burnsville

      50 FR SCY 24.09
      200 FR SCY 1:46.64
      500 FR SCY 4:46.88
      1000 FR SCY 9:47.23
      1650 FR SCY 16:32.79
      50 BK SCY 25.98
      100 BK SCY 54.66
      200 BK SCY 1:56.69
      100 BR SCY 1:05.31
      200 FL SCY 2:01.59
      200 IM SCY 1:57.86
      400 IM SCY 4:13.38

      Andrew Ko Fr. Breast Blue Bell, Pa. Wissahickon

      1:04.84 100 Breast

      Philip Manor Fr. IM/Breast Niskayana, N.Y. Niskayana

      50 FR SCY 24.05r
      100 FR SCY 51.86r
      200 FR SCY 1:50.08
      500 FR SCY 4:57.48
      100 BR SCY 1:03.18
      200 BR SCY 2:19.95
      100 FL SCY 59.66
      200 FL SCY 2:08.18
      200 IM SCY 2:02.89
      400 IM SCY 4:25.70

      Josh Matthews Free Upper Falls, Md. Perry Hall

      50 FR SCY 23.21
      100 FR SCY 49.98
      200 FR SCY 1:48.24
      500 FR SCY 5:01.36
      100 BR SCY 1:07.23
      200 BR SCY 2:29.76
      100 FL SCY 1:03.64
      200 IM SCY 2:11.46

      James Murray Free/Fly Pittsburgh, Pa. Upper St. Clair

      Nothing

      Frank Olechnowicz Free Alexandria, Va. Thomas Jefferson Science Tech

      50 FR SCY 23.25
      100 FR SCY 51.40
      200 FR SCY 1:48.30
      500 FR SCY 4:50.74
      1000 FR SCY 10:02.49
      1650 FR SCY 17:17.34
      100 BK SCY 1:02.33
      100 BR SCY 1:07.59
      100 FL SCY 1:02.41
      200 IM SCY 2:06.58
      400 IM SCY 4:33.20

      Michael Panzitta Back/Free Dallas, Pa. Bishop Itoban

      1:49 200 Free
      53.2 100 Back

      Travis Piper Fly/Free Ft. Washington, Pa. Upper Dublin

      56.7 100 Fly
      1:06.8 100 Breast

      Joshua Plotnik Breast/IM Framingham, Mass. Framingham

      50 FR SCY 25.05
      100 FR SCY 51.57r
      200 FR SCY 1:55.21
      100 BK SCY 59.16
      100 BR SCY 1:03.67
      200 BR SCY 2:20.87
      100 FL SCY 57.07
      200 FL SCY 2:13.82
      200 IM SCY 2:07.73
      400 IM SCY 4:40.18

      Justin Whaley Fly Helena, Mont. Helena

      50 FR SCY 24.64
      100 FR SCY 52.19
      200 FR SCY 1:50.61
      500 FR SCY 5:10.28 (Alt Adj.) 5:07.78
      50 BR SCY 32.22
      100 BR SCY 1:09.71
      100 FL SCY 54.06
      200 FL SCY 1:58.00
      200 IM SCY 2:02.95 (Alt. Adj.)2:02.45
      400 IM SCY 4:29.40 (alt. Adj.) 4:26.90

      Well
      there you go
      I won’t make the mistake this time of calling anyone “studly” I promise…

    • #38298
      t3hhammer
      Member

      I’m really surprised that Carnegie got so many recruits considering that Dr. Belowich isn’t there anymore. Granted, they didn’t get anyone good, but Belowich did a lot of good with not very much. We’ll see how their new coach does, but from what I understand there is no Carnegie/Hopkins/Emory invite this year.

    • #38299
      CaseBrst10
      Member

      this is true, the CMU, 1.5 day quad meet is no longer

    • #38300

      @t3hhammer wrote:

      I’m really surprised that Carnegie got so many recruits considering that Dr. Belowich isn’t there anymore.

      Don’t forget that there’s a year’s lag in recruiting, so these guys were recruited by Dr. Belowich. There may have been a few who backed out after he, ah, left, but this is substantially his last recruiting class. While I have hopes that Kinney will maintain the high position CMU has enjoyed pretty continually over in the last decade, I don’t think this class is much of an indication one way or another. (I also don’t think the discontinuation of the quad meet says much either.)

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