MID SEASON MEETS

Booms will impress everyone, as he has all season.

K’s freshmen will not disappoint.

Dekker will have his best midseason meet of his college career.

Olivet will have a few surprise swims from their unknowns.

King will be much faster than Wheaton last year.

Krone will swim across Lake Michigan instead of going to Wheaton… and still take it out fast.

K will be ranked first in one of the freestyle relays (but it’s only midseason).

RVZ will have at least 1 PR.

K won’t be top 2 in a medley this year after midseason.

Those are my predictions.

Hope will be faster than last year, they will been solid across the team w/ more than a few standout swims.

I know this part will go unnoticed but alma will put up a couple swims that might turn some heads.

Olivet will be faster than last years midseason 🙂

Bob-o McNabb will shave his beard, chest and back, and miraculously be 45 pounds lighter.

It’s probably closer to 60 pounds, truth be told. I haven’t shaved my beard in about a week.

OK, I guess its 60 lbs if you count the squirrels and chipmunks that have nested in there.

My predictions….

Kzoo- They will swim well as usual at this meet. The freshman will have some good swims, but i do think espinosa won’t be as fast as expected.

Olivet- This will be the first time we’ll get a chance what a totally different training style has done for Olivet with a little rest. I think we see good things are some impressive swims from Meisner, Jaffe, Koji, Powers, and a little known freshman named Rick Kinsey.

Alma- will have some suprising swims with a little consistency in the program.

Albion- Well if they arent going to Wheaton are they going anywhere? If they do i think Paul Krone starts to show that he will never be faster than he was last year. Gunderson will still be 21 mid to high, and 48.0 in the 100.

Calvin- I dont’ really know anything about Calvin this year…JBG will be solid because he is a senior but the rest of the team is pretty mediocre.

Hope- I think you will see some fast swims for Hope. They typically swim descent at Wheaton but nothing spectacular. The 400 free realy will be 3:05 mid or faster, and the 200 FR will be under 1:24.2. RVZ will be the top seed for the 50 and 100 free at the league meet. Brandon King will swim faster than expected, and Wade Engers will have a good meet. Heyboer, Rose and Nelis will all swim descent but nothing incredible. Swim of the meet for Hope will be one of Hope’s medley relays without heyboer.

I believe the word you were looking for Stevo was “decent,” not descent. Note the removal of the “s.” Regardless, i think your Hope analysis is pretty accurate. I think a lot of olivet’s guys will be slower though.

i actually think olivet will swim quite well, a lot of taper has to do with the mentality that it is time to swim a lot faster and these guys don’t really have years of expectations to base their mentality towards the meet off of. I think they’ll be pretty psyched going in and will come out with some fast times.

hope will do the usual, some good swims, some ok. they’ll probably rest about 75%-90% as much as kzoo and will probably have some ok relay times [3:07.5 in the 400 free relay and 1:24.5 or so in the 200 free relay]

kzoo will also do the usual, many good swims, some ok. i’d look for some nice swims out of ellis, the freshmen and booms. the medley relays will be quite solid and will swim some pretty good times [3:27 400 medley, 1:33 200 med]

albion- gunderson and krone [if they have a meet] will swim pretty well, krone will get a pair of b cuts and gunderson will be about 21.5 and 47.9

calvin- who the hell knows

alma- look for the team to really push for the haggis tent after this meet. they’ll swim about 1000 times better than in the past.

Wow, 1000 times better, I wish I had known before about the Haggis we might have beat Albion.

Nasty Natti thanks for the spelling/grammar lesson. I frequently post without reading what i wrote, seemingly leading to mistakes.

This is a larger prediction than the mid season meets but i predict that the MIAA coach of the year will go to someone affiliated with Hope College.

That’s not really that bold of a prediction when you consider that 3 out of 6 coaches in the league are affiliated, in one way or another, with Hope.

I predict that the Haggis tent will prove to be the greatest idea of all time. On that note, has anyone read a certain journal article pertaining to the Haggis (a small furry creature which can be found on Scottish mountainsides)? I have a copy of the article somewhere, if’n anyone is interested.

That’s not really that bold of a prediction when you consider that 3 out of 6 coaches in the league are affiliated, in one way or another, with Hope.

I liked the odds.

Can I please get some credit for suggesting the Haggis Tent? Its all I ask…

Olivet- I think Wheatley and Maxwell will be the standouts for Olivet. I expect significant time drops from how they have performed thus far.

K- Fleming, Booms, and Dekker should be the highlights. I’m not sure what got into Bazzell at the Hope v. K meet but he could be 47 in the 100 this weekend.

Hope- Hope’s 4 free relay time this weekend, will probably be faster than what K posts at MIAAs. WHAT!!?? Yeah, I know I can’t believe I said it either. But their 3:06 last yr with Kurti, RVZ, Rose, and CVB should be faster with the addition of Nelis.

Who posts faster times this weekend??
200 fr- CVB v. Fleming
1 fly- Nelis, Dekker, or JBG
50/100- Rose, RVZ, Gunderson, Ellis, Fleming, Bazzell
2 bk- Heyboer v. Ellis
2 br- Meisner v. Booms

2IM- Dekker v. Heyboer
2 fly- Yury, Koji, Dekker, Nelis

@stewie wrote:

Who posts faster times this weekend??
200 fr- CVB v. Fleming
1 fly- Nelis, Dekker, or JBG
50/100- Rose, RVZ, Gunderson, Ellis, Fleming, Bazzell
2 bk- Heyboer v. Ellis
2 br- Meisner v. Booms

2IM- Dekker v. Heyboer
2 fly- Yury, Koji, Dekker, Nelis

200 fr: More of CVB’s distance. 1. CVB 2. Fleming

1 fl: I’d be more comfortable picking Nelis if this was March. 1. Dekker 2. Nelis 3. JBG

50: Hope sprint factory

100: Hope sprint factory

2 back: 1. Ellis (Duh)

2IM: I’ll pick Dekker just because of how unpredictable the Hope taper can be.

2fly: Dekker.

2br: Booms will be sub 2:10…who know’s where Meisner will be.

I look for kzoo to be quick while Hope should be their typical hit and miss. The guys that hit though tend to be very good. I’m really curious as to how Olivet will perform with their new coach.

Who posts faster times this weekend??
200 fr- CVB v. Fleming
1 fly- Nelis, Dekker, or JBG
50/100- Rose, RVZ, Gunderson, Ellis, Fleming, Bazzell
2 bk- Heyboer v. Ellis
2 br- Meisner v. Booms

2IM- Dekker v. Heyboer
2 fly- Yury, Koji, Dekker, Nelis

200 free- CVB with the possiblity of Busscher
1 fly- JBG
50- RVZ
100- Rose
2Back- Ellis
2 Breast- Booms
2 IM- Nelis
2 Fly- Koji
100 Breast- Fonzi
100 Back- Ellis
4 IM- Heyboer
500- Krone- Richardson if Albion doesnt have a meet
1650 Same as 500

I could be making this up, but I thought that in the recent past Olivet didn’t taper at its midseason meet. Is that changing?

@quacker wrote:

I could be making this up, but I thought that in the recent past Olivet didn’t taper at its midseason meet. Is that changing?

looking at their results from the north central invitational last year, they weren’t tapered. if there was another mid-season meet, i missed it. then again, i wouldnt taper to swim at north central either. this year they’re going to depauw, which is typically a taper meet, but they still might not taper for it.

quaker wrote:

I could be making this up, but I thought that in the recent past Olivet didn’t taper at its midseason meet. Is that changing?

Maybe Facenorth could tell us?

@stewie wrote:

quaker wrote:

I could be making this up, but I thought that in the recent past Olivet didn’t taper at its midseason meet. Is that changing?

Maybe Facenorth could tell us?

i totally forgot about that… coaching change means totally different season strategy.

@Stevo wrote:

Swim of the meet for Hope will be one of Hope’s medley relays without heyboer.

Is this a B relay? Why else would Heyboer not be on it? It’s not like he’s going to be on the 4 or especially the 2 FR. Or will he swim so poorly they don’t put him on it? Or will he be skipping the meet for academic reasons a la Blohm (note: I don’t have issues with this, just asking)?

The only reason I could see this happening is b/c Heyboer isn’t geared w/ a whole lot of giddy-up. Maybe someone else could be quicker in the 50 back, but I’m still w/ u p, not sure why he wouldn’t be on that.

I don’t know if I’m overstepping my bounds but Olivet will probably rest for depauw.

@SwexasTim wrote:

The only reason I could see this happening is b/c Heyboer isn’t geared w/ a whole lot of giddy-up. Maybe someone else could be quicker in the 50 back, but I’m still w/ u p, not sure why he wouldn’t be on that.

I don’t know if I’m overstepping my bounds but Olivet will probably rest for depauw.

Best of luck in DePauw. Do you have a list of Alma records? I wanted to see if Spencer Johnson would be breaking the backstroke this weekend, but couldn’t find them.

Also, I’d like to see what Rose could do in a 50 back (after his performance at the K, Carthage, Hope meet), but on the B. I realize Heyboer doesn’t have a ton of get-up and go, but he was 24.7 last year at MIAAs, which is pretty good.

swexas picked up at what i was laying down. I wouldn’t be at all surprised to see Mitch Ruch on the front end of the 200 Medley because Phil doesn’t have the sprint speed. If you are going to expirement this is the meet to do so. Ultimately I think Heyboer will be on the relay at the end of the year, but i could also see Mitch Ruch having a breakout year and having a nice 50 back.

Rose is another decent option for backstroke on the 200 medley. Then he is sitting the 800 FR. You need rose on the end of the 400 MR with a 45 low, but with Vogelzang you don’t need him for the 200. Rose/King/Nelis/Vogelzang could be a pretty descent relay. Good point P.

i see ruch leading off the b 200 medley at wheaton, mostly because heyboer will be on the relay at miaas and they’ll want to do a true runtrough of the relays at wheaton to make sure that they’ll pick up on any issues with starts or anything else before the close matchup between them an olivet at miaas (team wise, although some of the relays will be close)

Way to donk off your predictions there breakdancer. You’re a red fish

If Koji wins the 200 fly ill laugh
If nelis wins the 200im i will be surprised
if JBG wins the 100 fly, ill be shocked
CVB>Fleming>Busscher

If krone doesnt rest, then one of the olivet dudes will take it down bra

K’s 200 FR goes sub 1:24, beats Hope

@Nasty Natti wrote:

K’s 200 FR goes sub 1:24, beats Hope

That’s averaging 21.0 just so you know. With a lead off leg, there is no way K is able to do this.

Way to donk off your predictions there breakdancer. You’re a red fish

If Koji wins the 200 fly ill laugh
If nelis wins the 200im i will be surprised
if JBG wins the 100 fly, ill be shocked
CVB>Fleming>Busscher

If krone doesnt rest, then one of the olivet dudes will take it down bra

K’s 200 FR goes sub 1:24, beats Hope

I was just try to see if anyone thought it was possible, and try to get some other discussion other than K wont beat hope in a freelay

@Jimmy wrote:

@Nasty Natti wrote:

K’s 200 FR goes sub 1:24, beats Hope

That’s averaging 21.0 just so you know. With a lead off leg, there is no way K is able to do this.

True that .2 drops in the 50 are nearly impossible… unless you go to Hope.

@breakdancer wrote:

Way to donk off your predictions there breakdancer. You’re a red fish

If Koji wins the 200 fly ill laugh
If nelis wins the 200im i will be surprised
if JBG wins the 100 fly, ill be shocked
CVB>Fleming>Busscher

If krone doesnt rest, then one of the olivet dudes will take it down bra

K’s 200 FR goes sub 1:24, beats Hope

I was just try to see if anyone thought it was possible, and try to get some other discussion other than K wont beat hope in a freelay

The only one that really stuck out as dumb was the 200 fly. I’d be shocked if he’s faster than Nelis or Dekker, let alone both. JBG could be fastest at the end of the season, but they historically have rested the least of the MIAA teams (with the exception of Olivet, but this year, Olivet could be included).

Vogelzang takes the 50 and 100, nelis will be the quickest in the 1 fly, dekker will win the im, jrich will be sub 5:50, Fleming will have the quickest 200. Ellis will have the fastest 2 back, but eventually Heyboer is going to figure that race out and it will be exciting.

I would hope that Richardson will be faster than 5:50 in the 500. I mean, I’m faster than 5:50 in-season, so I’m just sayin’… you’re setting your expectations a little low.

I was talking about his mile. But seriously jrich will be sub 4:50

Sub-5:50 in the mile is super impressive… is he going to be running alongside the pool? 😉

@SwexasTim wrote:

Ellis will have the fastest 2 back, but eventually Heyboer is going to figure that race out and it will be exciting.

i’m going to have to go ahead an “call you out” on this one…..an explanation is all i’m asking for

yes the kid goes out quick when racing ellis, but then again, that would be more of him figuring out how to race in general than just figuring out this race….

I imagine Ellis is the one who will best improve on his 200 back strategy. As one can count the number of times hes swam in it on both hands.

ok real quick before I leave for depauw, for not having much giddy-up heyboer has a ridiculous turnover that ends up hurting him on the back end of his 2 back, when he figures out how to speed up his 2nd 100 w/out turning over like a windmill in a hurricane we will see a good time drop out of him putting him right where he needs to be to make his races w/ ellis very exciting.

I’m taking anything away from Ellis, just saying when Heyboer gets it, when it really clicks for him, that race will be exciting.

Well not sure when I will be on again, probably play catch up on sunday, see ya kids and good luck to all this weekend.

@SwexasTim wrote:

like a windmill in a hurricane

are you talking about silentp or heyboer?

ahh, just kidding, i had to mention that this is exactly how our favorite executive team member used to swim backstroke

Just curious what is K’s school record in the 2 fr relay? I’d assume it’s under 1:24, but I don’t think they have had a lot of relays under 1:24. I think it’s ridiculous to think K could break 1:24 at this time of year. I don’t Hope will break 1:24 either this weekend.

K
Ellis 21.2
Fleming 21.0
Greiner 20.8
Bazzell/Fonsy??- 21.0
1:24.0
This is how it could happen, but these times look like MIAA/Nat times not midseason.

Did Ellis swim the 2 bk last yr at Eastern? If so, what he go? Sorry, can’t remember. Is he going to swim the 1 fly this weekend? If so, could he post the fastest time?

I dont believe he swam the 200 back last year he did the 50 100 free and 100 back

K 200 FR record 1:24.17 set in 2002.

K will not go under 1:24 at the Eastern meet.

@stewie wrote:

Just curious what is K’s school record in the 2 fr relay? I’d assume it’s under 1:24, but I don’t think they have had a lot of relays under 1:24. I think it’s ridiculous to think K could break 1:24 at this time of year. I don’t Hope will break 1:24 either this weekend.

I agree, speed will take some time to build, but if they break 1:25, that would be great. The school record is 1:24.17.

@stewie wrote:

K
Ellis 21.2
Fleming 21.0
Greiner 20.8
Bazzell/Fonsy??- 21.0
1:24.0
This is how it could happen, but these times look like MIAA/Nat times not midseason.

Interesting the only person who drops is Fleming, unless you are just adding up times to get the time predicted, and saying it won’t happen at midseason, then refer above where I agree.

@stewie wrote:

Did Ellis swim the 2 bk last yr at Eastern? If so, what he go? Sorry, can’t remember. Is he going to swim the 1 fly this weekend? If so, could he post the fastest time?

Rudy is right, he swam the 50, 100 and 100 back. He did not swim the 800 FR either, which I hope he does this year.

I don’t see any reason for him not to swim the 1fly here. It isn’t prelim-final so he could do the 2back, 1fly, 1back and swim the 50 exhibition. Scoring doesn’t matter much either, so they theoretically “stack” all 5 relays, exhibitioning 1.

I expect something around a 1:53 for Ellis in the 2back. His 100 back was only 51.2 (or close) at this time last year.

I’ve heard rumors Ellis will swim the 100 fly at nationals, and I hope he does so — I think he has a much better chance scoring in that event. I believe he was a 51 low in high school?
Very few D III kids come in that fast and I have to think he could push the 50.00 mark with some more focus on the fly.

Unfortunately right now, the team needs him to be a better freestyler than flyer, but he should at least be able to swim it at nationals.

At Eastern it would be huge to see a 50. out of Dekker with the other plethora of K flyers getting into the 52 range at midseason.

@Low Tide wrote:

I believe he was a 51 low in high school?

51.0, so yes, very low 51.