MIAA Winners in ’07

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    • #11877
      silentp
      Member

      That’s right, i have no shame in doing it now. I think we know most of the freshmen, or at least have approx times if we don’t have a name. I’m also bored and the talk about MVP next year seemed to die. yes, there is some bias here, otherwise we couldn’t argue!

      200 FR: 1. Hope 2. Olivet 3. ZOO
      500: Krone
      200 IM: Dekker
      50 free: Espinosa
      400 MR: 1. Hope 2. ZOO 3. Olivet

      200 MR: 1. Hope 2. ZOO 3. Olivet
      400 IM: Yuri
      100 fly: Fetters
      200 free: calvin froshie
      100 breast: Espinosa
      100 back: Heyboer
      800 FR: 1. Calvin 2. Hope 3. Olivet

      1650: Krone
      200 back: Heyboer
      100 free: olivet transfer
      200 breast: meisner
      200 fly: koji
      400 FR: 1. Hope 2. Olivet 3. Calvin

    • #29294
      Derek
      Member

      I don’t see any bias. Except against KZOO in all the relays, against Dekker in the 400 IM, and against fonzi in the 200 breast.

      KZOO wins all the relays, Dekker wins the 400 IM, and fonzi wins the 200 breast.

    • #29295
      el radio
      Member

      @silentp wrote:

      That’s right, i have no shame in doing it now. I think we know most of the freshmen, or at least have approx times if we don’t have a name. I’m also bored and the talk about MVP next year seemed to die. yes, there is some bias here, otherwise we couldn’t argue!

      200 FR: 1. Hope 2. Olivet 3. ZOO
      500: Krone
      200 IM: Dekker
      50 free: Espinosa
      400 MR: 1. Hope 2. ZOO 3. Olivet

      200 MR: 1. Hope 2. ZOO 3. Olivet
      400 IM: Yuri
      100 fly: Fetters
      200 free: calvin froshie
      100 breast: Espinosa
      100 back: Heyboer
      800 FR: 1. Calvin 2. Hope 3. Olivet

      1650: Krone
      200 back: Heyboer
      100 free: olivet transfer
      200 breast: meisner
      200 fly: koji
      400 FR: 1. Hope 2. Olivet 3. Calvin

      I cant argue with most of what you said, but i feel (being hope bias in some and others i think different people will win) that there could be a couple changes

      400 IM: Dekker – mainly because i think he has a really great year coming up for him

      100 fly: Fetters or Waterstone – i think these two will be at a deadlock for this event

      100 free: CVB – obviously hope bias towards chas, bu t i think after seeing what he can do with almost a year off he is only gonna get better and better

      50 free: Espinosa or Hope transfer – i say hope transfer because I here he is much like a Kurtis blow. Of course not THE kurtis blow, but he will imitate much of what he has done

      400 MR: I think its a toss up between either 3 you listed silentP therefore with a mathematical equation of 3! there are 6 possibilites for the top 3 between hope zoo and olivet

    • #29296
      DonCheadle
      Member

      When are you guys going reveal this alleged transfer? I mean it is almost August, if he hasn’t confirmed he is coming by now, he isn’t coming. I seem to recall that there were some issues that precluded revealing his name earlier, but at this point…

    • #29297
      maverick1
      Member

      hmmm…..i don’t know what to think about this transfer guy

      there’s a few races where i have a bit of a different opinion:

      100 fly: toss up with bacon, fetters, koji and waterstone….i’d give the edge to bacon though, i believe his best time is still faster than the other 3

      200 free: CVB had a nice swim at nationals last year, i think he should be able to take this one

      100 free: cvb again, but this can end up being a crap shoot with hennigar, cvb, esinosa (maybe a 3rd event?)

    • #29298
      Waldo
      Member

      I am not posting any names for the time being, but I am confirming a D1 transfer coming to hope. The proof… I’m living with him. Gonna be a great year for incoming swimmers and returners alike for all teams in the MIAA.
      My first post
      -Waldo, Fisher, aka CVB

    • #29299
      DonCheadle
      Member

      @Waldo wrote:

      I am not posting any names for the time being, but I am confirming a D1 transfer coming to hope. The proof… I’m living with him. Gonna be a great year for incoming swimmers and returners alike for all teams in the MIAA.
      My first post
      -Waldo, Fisher, aka CVB

      Tonight while you two are having pillow talk ask him if it is okay to reveal his name here. Just a joke. Glad to have you here.

    • #29300
      grandmas boy
      Member

      No name? If you toss a name out there is this dude going to un-transfer or something? I would think it is safe at this point to just put it out there.

      Okay, well, if not a name, how about giving us some times? I mean, the radio has him as a possible winner of the 50 and we’ve already heard that he’s a sprint freestyler (Sprint freestyler going to Hope? What are those odds?). But what kinds of times did he have last year? Or if he took a year off, and I think we’ve all seen now that doing so can be okay, what were his h.s. times?

      I have to say that I’m a little skeptical. No one else has mentioned him as possibly making national cuts (in the thread dealing with that subject), despite the fact he will “imitate” much of what Blohm has done.

    • #29301
      iamdonovan
      Member

      I have a feeling that his name hasn’t been mentioned because the very act of mentioning his name will strike fear into the hearts of men everywhere. Or maybe this is just a very elaborate hoax that’s been made up to throw a little intrigue into an otherwise slow summer – kind of like the Loch Ness monster, if you will. Or that monster from Lake Okanogan in the northwest somewhere.

    • #29302
      DonCheadle
      Member

      This much I know: the reason the swimmer doesn’t want his name out is that he does not want to go through the recruiting process again. He felt a little burned by the agressiveness of certain coaches and would prefer that they not know he is a “free agent” again. But now that it is almost August…

    • #29303
      maverick1
      Member

      isn’t it against ncaa rules to actually recruit people who are considering a transfer?

      the reason his name isn’t out is simple…..he’s hasn’t completely decided or registered at hope for next year or there’s some sort of “glitch”……maybe this guy swam on the fully funded cuban national team for 4 years and doesn’t know if he really has any eligibility….or maybe he was ineligible, academically at his last school and it might carry over.

      sounds a little fishy, but then again so are a lot of rumors that have come up since the end of the season

    • #29304
      silentp
      Member

      @maverick wrote:

      isn’t it against ncaa rules to actually recruit people who are considering a transfer?

      Yes, it is against NCAA rules unless he announces his intentions to leave the team and pursue other options. If he makes it official, but letting the school know and havign them contact the other schools of choice, then it can be done… but until then, it is hands off.

    • #29305
      Negrodamus
      Member

      Do you guys honestly not know who the Hope D1 transfer is?

    • #29306
      silentp
      Member

      @Negrodamus wrote:

      Do you guys honestly not know who the Hope D1 transfer is?

      Eh, I’m more interested in Chipotle burritos than the Hope transfer at this point, even as much as he is being hyped up. Also, on the note on saying he’ll do things similar to Blohm is, in my opinion, downplaying what Blohm has done, becoming the second best sprinter in MIAA history.

    • #29307
      Negrodamus
      Member

      heeeeehhhhh, its brendan ray for all of you that didn’t know cuz im getting sick of everyone not knowing and also i dont go to hope and i know who it is.

    • #29308
      guynumberone
      Member

      Brendon Ray’s not swimming at Hope next year. I’ve talked to the guy, and he’s not leaving Oakland. The Ray from Holland everybody’s excited about is Matt, who’s a good swimmer, but not Blohmlike.

    • #29309
      Negrodamus
      Member

      oooops, wrong Ray. this is an example of why you shouldn’t make a post drunk.

    • #29310

      It has been said that he is slightly off a ‘B’ cut in the 50 but not the top sprinter on Hope’s team next year. We are also under the assumption that he did not improve last year at the d1 school he attended (or maybe that is just me).

      Seems to me that IF he is a Michigan boy that would narrow the list to:
      D1:
      Luke Ortego – Rockford 21.48/47.1…west michigan kid…Oakland U
      Brendon Ray – Holland 21.37…Oakland U. rumor has been shot down
      Brad Dotson – Jenison 21.28…UMich (but has a B cut)

      D2:
      Phil Cole – BC Lakeview 21.22 (B Cut)…Air Force
      Steve Kurti – BC Lakeview 21.45…Western Kentucky
      Dan Glisky – Andover 21.71…?
      Tim Giblin – Midland Dow 21.82…Wayne St. (d2)
      Andy Kellogg – Chelsea 21.74…Oakland U

      I can’t imagine there would be this much hype over a 21.7 or worse which really leaves us 3 guys without B cuts. My money is on Ortego or Kurti. Again, this is assuming he is FROM Michigan.

    • #29311
      DonCheadle
      Member

      Based on what I know the guy is just off B cut in the 50 and a 47 high in the 100. I am not sure it really matters who it is though, becuase he can just be “21 mid 47 high guy” when talking about who will swim what at leagues.

    • #29312
      Psimon3
      Member

      There were a few of the Oakland freshmen this year who noted to other Athletes at the Mid-Continent Conference Championships that they were going to transfer. To where, was everyone’s speculation but it wouldn’t shock me if someone didn’t end up at Hope this year.

    • #29313
      Psimon3
      Member

      @DonCheadle wrote:

      PSIMON:

      I thought you were from Texas?

      Acutally, I was born and raised in Ohio… We just got a Chipolte and my boss and I go there all the time. He was at ASU prior to coming here and they have a TON of them out there… I was introduced to heaven…

    • #29314
      Ricky Bobby
      Member

      So now that we know a thing or two more about the league let’s redo this, plus I don’t necessarily agree with SilentP:

      200 FR: 1. Hope
      500: Krone
      200 IM: Heyboer
      50 free: Transfer (can we please come out with it yet?)
      400 MR: K

      200 MR: K
      400 IM: Heyboer
      100 fly: Bacon
      200 free: Tuuk
      100 breast: Espinosa
      100 back: Ellis
      800 FR: Hope, Calvin a close 2nd

      1650: Krone
      200 back: Heyboer
      100 free: VanderBroek
      200 breast: Meisner
      200 fly: Toll
      400 FR: Hope

      Focus people. Let’s get back on task here. Chipotle nothin!

    • #29315
      silentp
      Member

      Well, obviously i have a few points of disagreeance…

      the easy one is the 100 fly, ellis will win this…

      I think Dekker will win the 200IM in a close race….

      Fonzi will win the 50, and go 20. …

      Ellis will also win the 100 and break the school record, going under 46…

      Vanderbroek will win the 200 free….

      And don’t post what i said for winners before, everyone can change their opinion like Britney used to change boob sizes

      Hey Chas, who’s your roommate right now? I hope school is treating you well.

    • #29316
      DonCheadle
      Member

      Transfer to Hope is Steve Kurti. He is on campus so this is no secret.

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