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    • #12463

      Some impressive morning relays. 1:21 from KC is nuts with a 21.1 lead off. Mitchell going 19.7 is nuts. I guess he retapered well. We will see if they can replicate tonight.

      My boys from JHU were great. Fedderly and Thomas had awesome splits. If they get a better front half tonight, look out.

      GCC looked a bit off this morning but will be there tonight.

      Emory missed finals by .01. ouch.

      On a Fantasy note- My 200 FR already is 20.6, 20.3, 20.2, 20.2. Nice

    • #36646
      swim5599
      Member

      Man that Kenyon free relay was moving this morning. Harris with a big 20.1 split. I look for him to have a big meet. How about Amundson’s 20.5 lead off. Look out.

    • #36647
      Milhouse
      Member

      How about that 500 from Rantz? I realize it’s too early to derive such conclusions, but if that swim is any indication, Kenyon has the meet in the bag.

    • #36648
      swim5599
      Member

      Rantz negative split his 250’s also. Huge swim for Curtis and Spinelli also, but Bryce missed the championship final. Kenyon is on fire right now. Dunn 4:26, maybe that mile record goes after all.

    • #36649

      This meet is OVER. Peterson missing finals and KC having 3 up, 1 down. Good night. Northcutt going 4:31, rantz 4:27. are you kidding. That 500 was fast top to bottom. I think the pool is good. haha

    • #36650
      swim5599
      Member

      Yes very fast, but if you look at the bottom of the page, you will notice that Bobby Brown went about 4:42 in the 500. Wow off a whole lot, Scarborough also had a rough swim.

    • #36651

      KC was moving on that relay. They look ready to play. I know they have emotion and preparation on their side. Not many D-III swimmers have ever split under 20, so that was a strong race.

      That 500 is ridiculous: 4:31.5 just to get into the bigs and 4:35 into the consies??!? Glad I am retired years hence! Kenyon is three up and one down, while Denison is 1st, 9th and 11th. Emory has two in the bigs.

      I am looking forward to more fast races.

      BTW: As an Emory historian (and alumnus), I think Callum’s lead-off is a new varsity record for the Eagles. Great swim! Hopefully faster in the event prelims!

    • #36652
      swim5599
      Member

      Well I am guessing we see Nelson Hop in and go about 1:49 high hear in the next couple of minutes.

    • #36653

      And Kenyon swimmers seem to be winning basically every heat of the 2IM… with big drops… wow.

    • #36654

      They have had every person swim a PR, they are gonna have a ton back in the IM. This is absolutely nuts.

    • #36655
      swim5599
      Member

      Ulrich 1:52.0 in the IM, great swim.

    • #36656
      swim5599
      Member

      When Jim Steen woke up this morning I am pretty sure he was hoping for this kind of morning. They are really swimming well.

    • #36657

      I dont even think he could have been hoping for this. This is just unprecidented in swimming, even for Kenyon.

    • #36658
      swim5599
      Member

      Bobo 1:51.8 in the IM, that is a huge drop also.

    • #36659
      openwater
      Member

      Seventh place is about as close to not making the Champ final as Nelson probably wanted.

    • #36660

      BR Splits:
      Gosselar: 30.9
      Zarins: 31.6

      Fast splits.

      KC: 1 up, 4 down in the IMs
      Emory, 2 up, 2 down
      DU: 1 up

    • #36661

      He certainly scared his fantasy owner. Anyone notice Joey G;s Br split- 30. I think he has the 200 Br locked up.

    • #36662
      swim5599
      Member

      Oh man Nelson almost had a repeat of last year. Based on the splits it looked like he shut down that puppy a little early. Zarins 1:53.7 my god that is ridiculous for that guy.

    • #36663
      swim5599
      Member

      Any chance we see Joey G go under 2:00 this year in the 200?

    • #36664
      NCACDork
      Member

      Geez. Great swims. Must be a fast pool, but it is great for the whole meet that most everyone is swimming pretty well the first session. Good to know I can sit here and hit “refresh” on my computer for the next hour or so instead of working!

    • #36665
      swim5599
      Member

      Mitchell 20.2 in the 50. I thought he had a breakthrough conf meet, but this is pretty amazing.

    • #36666

      This is unrelated but….

      Event 1 Men 200 Yard Freestyle Relay

      Heat 3 of 3 – Preliminaries

      ============================================================

      School Seed Prelims

      ============================================================

      1 Auburn ‘A’ 1:16.52 1:15.56

      9.19 18.89 (18.89)

      27.77 (8.88) 37.54 (18.65)

      46.72 (9.18) 56.67 (19.13)

      1:05.61 (8.94) 1:15.56 (18.89)

    • #36667

      Who went 18.8?

    • #36668

      New NCAA record for the relay and cielo under 19

    • #36669
      swim5599
      Member

      Yeah that is a crazy fast relay. Kenyon is the Auburn of d3 swimming. They just like Auburn step up when its crunch time. Huge swim for Cielo

    • #36670
      swim5599
      Member

      19.1 man that sucks for their 3rd guy. Kidding obviously

    • #36671

      My current Fantasy 200 FR options- nice
      Callum- 20.4 minus .5
      Roberts 20.3 leadoff
      Thomas- 20.3
      Westby- 20.3
      Geissing- 20.2

    • #36672

      I see Tim McGlaston improved so much now that he is shaved and tapered for a meet. (this is why you don’t believe people when they swear up and down they arn’t shaved and tapered, and go PR’s by huge margins)

    • #36673
      swim5599
      Member

      Yeah everyone always lies about their rested swims in season. Hey rhyme 1:54 plus for Higgins in the IM pretty darn good

    • #36674

      @swim5599 wrote:

      Yeah everyone always lies about their rested swims in season. Hey rhyme 1:54 plus for Higgins in the IM pretty darn good

      It is PR for Higgins, not bad at all. a 1:53 would have been nice, but its a good start. Tomorrow is the important one : )

    • #36675

      @swim5599 wrote:

      Yeah everyone always lies about their rested swims in season. Hey rhyme 1:54 plus for Higgins in the IM pretty darn good

      Especially W&L

    • #36676

      5599 – I got engaged last Sunday. Cool eh? Not to someone you know, but she did go to Wheaton as well.

    • #36677

      ANyone else notice the 50 Fr scrtach for Harris and 500 scratch for Irgrens, looks liek 5 relays for both?

    • #36678
      swim5599
      Member

      Hey congrats on the engagement. That is awesome. Higgins 1:40.7 is my call in the 200 tomorrow.

    • #36679
      swim5599
      Member

      Yeah I am guessing we would have seen Harris go about 20.8 in the 50 flat start.

    • #36680
      NCACDork
      Member

      Irgens for KC will not be on 5 relays. He is not faster than anybody who was on the relay this morning. There must be another reason. I am excited to see what that kid does in the backstroke though.

    • #36681

      KC 400 MR dq!

    • #36682
      swim5599
      Member

      Yeah I just saw that, man what a crappy way to end a stellar day

    • #36683
      NCACDork
      Member

      How? Anybody know? That could be a big blow, but could also fire people up a little for the rest of the meet (both KC and non, for various reasons).

    • #36684
      RadAGator
      Member

      were there really 3 dqs in one heat?

    • #36685
      swim5599
      Member

      That does open the door for other teams. If Denison were to win that relay, and I am not sure they have enough, but that could be an 80 point swing in one event.

    • #36686

      We probably won’t know for a bit, until all the heats have gone. Usually the full results with splits include the take-off splits. However, with 3 teams called in one heat, could be electrical malfunction. Hard to believe three teams all jumped. Besides, isn’t there a back-up of relay panel judges? Wasn’t somethign overturned last week? At SEC’s here at UK, several DQ’s were overruled. If they are using Daktronics, that could be the problem….

    • #36687
      RadAGator
      Member

      5 dqs? no way thats real…..must be a malfunction

    • #36688

      That was my thought: FIVE relays get called, and one in the first relay event.

      On another note: ZARINS, 55.11 and the flier 48.0

      This will be cleared up soon.

    • #36689
      maverick1
      Member

      more dqs in the medley than the 200free relay seems odd….we’ll just have to wait and see if anything changes

    • #36690
      swim5599
      Member

      I wonder if the DQ was Zarins? Harris is swimming out of his mind right now. 8 tenth drop from last years 400 MR, of course he also may have been the one that jumped.

      Geissinger 44.2 that is moving. Byers seems way off.

    • #36691
      openwater
      Member

      Kenyon’s time was a 3:19.91 – quick enough.

    • #36692

      Test was loafing a bit because he knew they were in. I’ll take Hopkins tonight in the 4 Medley as long as there is no Kenyon in the picture

      Dension winning the relay is not an 80 point swing.

    • #36693

      Yea that was a real loaf from Test. 22.4 going out, hahaha.

      I think they are 3:21 ish tonight. Fedderly and Sershon will drop alot of time tonight.

    • #36694
      swim5599
      Member

      Yes I apologize for my horrible math I meant a 40 point swing, but Denison is not even going to come close to winning the 400 MR.

    • #36695

      2 sub 19 swims at D1s. Cielo- 18.84. BWT- 18.98. The 2nd is an American Record. COngrats.

    • #36696
      swim5599
      Member

      Yeah Webber Gale was 19.1 also

    • #36697
      miller
      Member

      The results are still showing all those DQs in the 400MR.

      Is that real???

    • #36698
      The Treat
      Member

      @miller wrote:

      The results are still showing all those DQs in the 400MR.

      Is that real???

      looks like it. i scored emory, denison and kenyon after day 1 (very quickly done, might have errors).

      Kenyon 150
      emory 147
      denison 84

      mitchell is ridiculous.

      21.0 from byers is extremely disappointing.

      emory looks like they are swimming very well. it’s too bad they missed finals in the 200 FR or else they could be in the fake lead so far.

    • #36699
      openwater
      Member

      Trunk won the 50 swimoff for 16th – at least he wasn’t fast enough to have made the Championship heat.

    • #36700

      @The Treat wrote:

      mitchell is ridiculous.

      And Callam is absolutely on fire.

    • #36701
      Potsy
      Member

      @JHUBreaststroke06 wrote:

      2 sub 19 swims at D1s. Cielo- 18.84. BWT- 18.98. The 2nd is an American Record. COngrats.

      I’ll be at the D1 finals tonight, is anyone else going? We had two sub 19 here in 2005 as well. Must be the pool. 🙂

    • #36702
      Gyorf
      Member

      looks like a real fast meet so far. anyone else wish they were there to see it? the 500 was blazing. so was that time in the 200 free relay from kenyon, 19.7 is mighty quick….. so much for breaking the streak.

      did anyone at the meet happen to see/want to comment on the relay takeoffs? some splits in the 200 relay looked kinda slow compared to flat start 50’s… were they being safe?

    • #36703
      N Dynamite
      Member

      @The Treat wrote:

      i scored emory, denison and kenyon after day 1 (very quickly done, might have errors).

      Kenyon 150
      emory 147
      denison 84

      How does this compare to where they should have been based on the psyche sheet? I was just comparing the psyche to prelims and it seemed like there were some great swims all three (Gosselar in the IM[k], Ulrich in the 500[d], Bobo in the IM[e]) as well as a few setbacks (Kenyon’s 400 MR, Peterson’s 500, Emory’s 200 FR). If Kenyon continues to step up like they have so far I expect they’ll win, but maybe that’s an illusion because of a few really good performances. Also:
      @DonCheadle wrote:

      I agree with the sentiment, Kenyon has a lot more room to score more points. Denison probably needs a relay DQ to pull this out.

      How does the 400 MR DQ impact the meet? After a great morning performance will this damper their attitude between sessions and slow them down tonight? Will it just make them more determined the rest of the way?

    • #36704

      @The Treat wrote:

      @miller wrote:

      The results are still showing all those DQs in the 400MR.

      Is that real???

      looks like it. i scored emory, denison and kenyon after day 1 (very quickly done, might have errors).

      Kenyon 150
      emory 147
      denison 84

      I tried to get everone scored, I also did it real quick, but it should be pretty close. As of prelims I have.

      1. Kenyon 146
      Emory 146
      3. Denison 113
      4. Williams 84
      5. Johh Hopkins 79
      6. Gustavus 74
      7. Stevens Point 59
      8. Grove City 54
      9. Washington and Lee 51
      10. St. Olaf 42
      11. MIT 26
      12. Lacrosse 25
      13. Westimister 23
      14. Hope
      TCNJ 18
      16. Wheaton (MA)
      Careleton 17
      18. Merchant Marine 15
      19. U.C Santa Cruz 14
      Kalamazoo 14
      21. NYU 9
      22. Washington U 6
      Redland 6
      24. Tufts 5
      Case Western 5
      26. Coast Gaurd 4
      27. Depauw 3
      28. Wesleyan 2

    • #36705
      silentp
      Member

      Emory is swimming great, Kenyon is on fire. Let’s not forget, Kenyon scores more points on Day 3 than most teams will score period, that’s their day, so to be doing this now, with a relay dq’d, wow.

    • #36706
      RadAGator
      Member

      Going into the night session, prelims predicts:

      1. Kenyon 146
      1.Emory 146
      3.Denison 113
      Williams 84
      4.John Hopkins 79
      5.Gustavus 74
      6.Stevens Point 59
      7.Grove City 54
      8.Washington and Lee 51
      9.St. Olaf 43
      10.Occidental 37
      11.TCNJ 30
      11.U.C Santa Cruz 30
      13.MIT 26
      14.Lacrosse 25
      15.Westimister 23
      16.RPI 23
      17.Hope 18
      18.Wheaton (MA) 17
      18.Carleton 17
      18.SUNY Oswego 17
      21.Merchant Marine 15
      21.Rowan 15
      22.Kalamazoo 14
      22.RIT 14
      24.NYU 9
      25.SUNY Potsdam 7
      26.Washington U 6
      26.Redlands 6
      26.CMS 6
      29.Tufts 5
      29.Case Western 5
      29.SUNY Fredonia 5
      32.Coast Gaurd 4
      33.Depauw 3
      33.Middlebury 3
      35.Wesleyan 2

    • #36707

      so why was kenyon dqed in the 400 medley??

      did the breaststroker jump? cuz if not thats a good time

    • #36708
      swim5599
      Member

      Kenyon holds on in the 200 FR. Washington and Lee 1:21.6 wow. Mitchell 19.57 holy smokes. Courage 19.68.

    • #36709
      stokes
      Member

      Zarin’s jumped in the medley. Anyone know what happened to the Oshkosh diver?

    • #36710
      N Dynamite
      Member

      @stokes wrote:

      Zarin’s jumped in the medley. Anyone know what happened to the Oshkosh diver?

      Amazingly, and scary, he went off the board weird doing a twister and hit the wall with his head. Hopefully he’s alright.

    • #36711
      swim5599
      Member

      Interesting that Steen called yesterday’s morning “in 31 years this morning was the absolute best” Man too bad about the dq. That was one helluva session for them.

    • #36712
      Anonymous
      Member

      The Oshkosh diver is fine … some bruising, concussion, and stitches. He’s out of the hospital and back at his hotel.

    • #36713
      N Dynamite
      Member

      @bigdogracing wrote:

      The Oshkosh diver is fine … some bruising, concussion, and stitches. He’s out of the hospital and back at his hotel.

      Thank goodness – nothing scarier than a diver hitting the deck on a dive. Hopefully he doesn’t have any long term problems from this – and from the sounds of what you’re saying I mean that he will be able to dive again without fear.

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