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March 15, 2007 at 4:14 pm #12463
JHUBreaststroke06
MemberSome impressive morning relays. 1:21 from KC is nuts with a 21.1 lead off. Mitchell going 19.7 is nuts. I guess he retapered well. We will see if they can replicate tonight.
My boys from JHU were great. Fedderly and Thomas had awesome splits. If they get a better front half tonight, look out.
GCC looked a bit off this morning but will be there tonight.
Emory missed finals by .01. ouch.
On a Fantasy note- My 200 FR already is 20.6, 20.3, 20.2, 20.2. Nice
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March 15, 2007 at 4:35 pm #36646
swim5599
MemberMan that Kenyon free relay was moving this morning. Harris with a big 20.1 split. I look for him to have a big meet. How about Amundson’s 20.5 lead off. Look out.
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March 15, 2007 at 4:35 pm #36647
Milhouse
MemberHow about that 500 from Rantz? I realize it’s too early to derive such conclusions, but if that swim is any indication, Kenyon has the meet in the bag.
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March 15, 2007 at 4:50 pm #36648
swim5599
MemberRantz negative split his 250’s also. Huge swim for Curtis and Spinelli also, but Bryce missed the championship final. Kenyon is on fire right now. Dunn 4:26, maybe that mile record goes after all.
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March 15, 2007 at 4:50 pm #36649
JHUBreaststroke06
MemberThis meet is OVER. Peterson missing finals and KC having 3 up, 1 down. Good night. Northcutt going 4:31, rantz 4:27. are you kidding. That 500 was fast top to bottom. I think the pool is good. haha
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March 15, 2007 at 4:52 pm #36650
swim5599
MemberYes very fast, but if you look at the bottom of the page, you will notice that Bobby Brown went about 4:42 in the 500. Wow off a whole lot, Scarborough also had a rough swim.
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March 15, 2007 at 4:52 pm #36651
PioneerSwimming
MemberKC was moving on that relay. They look ready to play. I know they have emotion and preparation on their side. Not many D-III swimmers have ever split under 20, so that was a strong race.
That 500 is ridiculous: 4:31.5 just to get into the bigs and 4:35 into the consies??!? Glad I am retired years hence! Kenyon is three up and one down, while Denison is 1st, 9th and 11th. Emory has two in the bigs.
I am looking forward to more fast races.
BTW: As an Emory historian (and alumnus), I think Callum’s lead-off is a new varsity record for the Eagles. Great swim! Hopefully faster in the event prelims!
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March 15, 2007 at 4:53 pm #36652
swim5599
MemberWell I am guessing we see Nelson Hop in and go about 1:49 high hear in the next couple of minutes.
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March 15, 2007 at 4:55 pm #36653
RhymeAndReason
MemberAnd Kenyon swimmers seem to be winning basically every heat of the 2IM… with big drops… wow.
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March 15, 2007 at 4:57 pm #36654
JHUBreaststroke06
MemberThey have had every person swim a PR, they are gonna have a ton back in the IM. This is absolutely nuts.
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March 15, 2007 at 4:57 pm #36655
swim5599
MemberUlrich 1:52.0 in the IM, great swim.
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March 15, 2007 at 4:58 pm #36656
swim5599
MemberWhen Jim Steen woke up this morning I am pretty sure he was hoping for this kind of morning. They are really swimming well.
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March 15, 2007 at 4:59 pm #36657
JHUBreaststroke06
MemberI dont even think he could have been hoping for this. This is just unprecidented in swimming, even for Kenyon.
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March 15, 2007 at 5:01 pm #36658
swim5599
MemberBobo 1:51.8 in the IM, that is a huge drop also.
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March 15, 2007 at 5:02 pm #36659
openwater
MemberSeventh place is about as close to not making the Champ final as Nelson probably wanted.
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March 15, 2007 at 5:03 pm #36660
PioneerSwimming
MemberBR Splits:
Gosselar: 30.9
Zarins: 31.6Fast splits.
KC: 1 up, 4 down in the IMs
Emory, 2 up, 2 down
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March 15, 2007 at 5:04 pm #36661
JHUBreaststroke06
MemberHe certainly scared his fantasy owner. Anyone notice Joey G;s Br split- 30. I think he has the 200 Br locked up.
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March 15, 2007 at 5:05 pm #36662
swim5599
MemberOh man Nelson almost had a repeat of last year. Based on the splits it looked like he shut down that puppy a little early. Zarins 1:53.7 my god that is ridiculous for that guy.
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March 15, 2007 at 5:06 pm #36663
swim5599
MemberAny chance we see Joey G go under 2:00 this year in the 200?
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March 15, 2007 at 5:06 pm #36664
NCACDork
MemberGeez. Great swims. Must be a fast pool, but it is great for the whole meet that most everyone is swimming pretty well the first session. Good to know I can sit here and hit “refresh” on my computer for the next hour or so instead of working!
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March 15, 2007 at 5:09 pm #36665
swim5599
MemberMitchell 20.2 in the 50. I thought he had a breakthrough conf meet, but this is pretty amazing.
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March 15, 2007 at 5:10 pm #36666
RhymeAndReason
MemberThis is unrelated but….
Event 1 Men 200 Yard Freestyle Relay
Heat 3 of 3 – Preliminaries
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School Seed Prelims
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1 Auburn ‘A’ 1:16.52 1:15.56
9.19 18.89 (18.89)
27.77 (8.88) 37.54 (18.65)
46.72 (9.18) 56.67 (19.13)
1:05.61 (8.94) 1:15.56 (18.89)
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March 15, 2007 at 5:11 pm #36667
PioneerSwimming
MemberWho went 18.8?
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March 15, 2007 at 5:11 pm #36668
JHUBreaststroke06
MemberNew NCAA record for the relay and cielo under 19
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March 15, 2007 at 5:15 pm #36669
swim5599
MemberYeah that is a crazy fast relay. Kenyon is the Auburn of d3 swimming. They just like Auburn step up when its crunch time. Huge swim for Cielo
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March 15, 2007 at 5:15 pm #36670
swim5599
Member19.1 man that sucks for their 3rd guy. Kidding obviously
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March 15, 2007 at 5:16 pm #36671
JHUBreaststroke06
MemberMy current Fantasy 200 FR options- nice
Callum- 20.4 minus .5
Roberts 20.3 leadoff
Thomas- 20.3
Westby- 20.3
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March 15, 2007 at 5:17 pm #36672
RhymeAndReason
MemberI see Tim McGlaston improved so much now that he is shaved and tapered for a meet. (this is why you don’t believe people when they swear up and down they arn’t shaved and tapered, and go PR’s by huge margins)
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March 15, 2007 at 5:23 pm #36673
swim5599
MemberYeah everyone always lies about their rested swims in season. Hey rhyme 1:54 plus for Higgins in the IM pretty darn good
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March 15, 2007 at 5:25 pm #36674
RhymeAndReason
Member@swim5599 wrote:
Yeah everyone always lies about their rested swims in season. Hey rhyme 1:54 plus for Higgins in the IM pretty darn good
It is PR for Higgins, not bad at all. a 1:53 would have been nice, but its a good start. Tomorrow is the important one : )
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March 15, 2007 at 5:28 pm #36675
JHUBreaststroke06
Member@swim5599 wrote:
Yeah everyone always lies about their rested swims in season. Hey rhyme 1:54 plus for Higgins in the IM pretty darn good
Especially W&L
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March 15, 2007 at 5:29 pm #36676
RhymeAndReason
Member5599 – I got engaged last Sunday. Cool eh? Not to someone you know, but she did go to Wheaton as well.
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March 15, 2007 at 5:30 pm #36677
JHUBreaststroke06
MemberANyone else notice the 50 Fr scrtach for Harris and 500 scratch for Irgrens, looks liek 5 relays for both?
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March 15, 2007 at 5:32 pm #36678
swim5599
MemberHey congrats on the engagement. That is awesome. Higgins 1:40.7 is my call in the 200 tomorrow.
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March 15, 2007 at 5:36 pm #36679
swim5599
MemberYeah I am guessing we would have seen Harris go about 20.8 in the 50 flat start.
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March 15, 2007 at 5:37 pm #36680
NCACDork
MemberIrgens for KC will not be on 5 relays. He is not faster than anybody who was on the relay this morning. There must be another reason. I am excited to see what that kid does in the backstroke though.
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March 15, 2007 at 5:38 pm #36681
PioneerSwimming
MemberKC 400 MR dq!
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March 15, 2007 at 5:38 pm #36682
swim5599
MemberYeah I just saw that, man what a crappy way to end a stellar day
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March 15, 2007 at 5:39 pm #36683
NCACDork
MemberHow? Anybody know? That could be a big blow, but could also fire people up a little for the rest of the meet (both KC and non, for various reasons).
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March 15, 2007 at 5:40 pm #36684
RadAGator
Memberwere there really 3 dqs in one heat?
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March 15, 2007 at 5:41 pm #36685
swim5599
MemberThat does open the door for other teams. If Denison were to win that relay, and I am not sure they have enough, but that could be an 80 point swing in one event.
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March 15, 2007 at 5:42 pm #36686
PioneerSwimming
MemberWe probably won’t know for a bit, until all the heats have gone. Usually the full results with splits include the take-off splits. However, with 3 teams called in one heat, could be electrical malfunction. Hard to believe three teams all jumped. Besides, isn’t there a back-up of relay panel judges? Wasn’t somethign overturned last week? At SEC’s here at UK, several DQ’s were overruled. If they are using Daktronics, that could be the problem….
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March 15, 2007 at 5:48 pm #36687
RadAGator
Member5 dqs? no way thats real…..must be a malfunction
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March 15, 2007 at 5:51 pm #36688
PioneerSwimming
MemberThat was my thought: FIVE relays get called, and one in the first relay event.
On another note: ZARINS, 55.11 and the flier 48.0
This will be cleared up soon.
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March 15, 2007 at 5:51 pm #36689
maverick1
Membermore dqs in the medley than the 200free relay seems odd….we’ll just have to wait and see if anything changes
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March 15, 2007 at 5:53 pm #36690
swim5599
MemberI wonder if the DQ was Zarins? Harris is swimming out of his mind right now. 8 tenth drop from last years 400 MR, of course he also may have been the one that jumped.
Geissinger 44.2 that is moving. Byers seems way off.
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March 15, 2007 at 5:56 pm #36691
openwater
MemberKenyon’s time was a 3:19.91 – quick enough.
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March 15, 2007 at 5:56 pm #36692
Captain Insano
MemberTest was loafing a bit because he knew they were in. I’ll take Hopkins tonight in the 4 Medley as long as there is no Kenyon in the picture
Dension winning the relay is not an 80 point swing.
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March 15, 2007 at 5:59 pm #36693
JHUBreaststroke06
MemberYea that was a real loaf from Test. 22.4 going out, hahaha.
I think they are 3:21 ish tonight. Fedderly and Sershon will drop alot of time tonight.
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March 15, 2007 at 6:08 pm #36694
swim5599
MemberYes I apologize for my horrible math I meant a 40 point swing, but Denison is not even going to come close to winning the 400 MR.
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March 15, 2007 at 6:19 pm #36695
JHUBreaststroke06
Member2 sub 19 swims at D1s. Cielo- 18.84. BWT- 18.98. The 2nd is an American Record. COngrats.
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March 15, 2007 at 6:21 pm #36696
swim5599
MemberYeah Webber Gale was 19.1 also
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March 15, 2007 at 6:49 pm #36697
miller
MemberThe results are still showing all those DQs in the 400MR.
Is that real???
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March 15, 2007 at 7:24 pm #36698
The Treat
Member@miller wrote:
The results are still showing all those DQs in the 400MR.
Is that real???
looks like it. i scored emory, denison and kenyon after day 1 (very quickly done, might have errors).
Kenyon 150
emory 147
denison 84mitchell is ridiculous.
21.0 from byers is extremely disappointing.
emory looks like they are swimming very well. it’s too bad they missed finals in the 200 FR or else they could be in the fake lead so far.
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March 15, 2007 at 7:47 pm #36699
openwater
MemberTrunk won the 50 swimoff for 16th – at least he wasn’t fast enough to have made the Championship heat.
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March 15, 2007 at 7:50 pm #36700
Captain Insano
Member@The Treat wrote:
mitchell is ridiculous.
And Callam is absolutely on fire.
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March 15, 2007 at 8:27 pm #36701
Potsy
Member@JHUBreaststroke06 wrote:
2 sub 19 swims at D1s. Cielo- 18.84. BWT- 18.98. The 2nd is an American Record. COngrats.
I’ll be at the D1 finals tonight, is anyone else going? We had two sub 19 here in 2005 as well. Must be the pool. 🙂
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March 15, 2007 at 8:59 pm #36702
Gyorf
Memberlooks like a real fast meet so far. anyone else wish they were there to see it? the 500 was blazing. so was that time in the 200 free relay from kenyon, 19.7 is mighty quick….. so much for breaking the streak.
did anyone at the meet happen to see/want to comment on the relay takeoffs? some splits in the 200 relay looked kinda slow compared to flat start 50’s… were they being safe?
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March 15, 2007 at 9:02 pm #36703
N Dynamite
Member@The Treat wrote:
i scored emory, denison and kenyon after day 1 (very quickly done, might have errors).
Kenyon 150
emory 147
denison 84How does this compare to where they should have been based on the psyche sheet? I was just comparing the psyche to prelims and it seemed like there were some great swims all three (Gosselar in the IM[k], Ulrich in the 500[d], Bobo in the IM[e]) as well as a few setbacks (Kenyon’s 400 MR, Peterson’s 500, Emory’s 200 FR). If Kenyon continues to step up like they have so far I expect they’ll win, but maybe that’s an illusion because of a few really good performances. Also:
@DonCheadle wrote:I agree with the sentiment, Kenyon has a lot more room to score more points. Denison probably needs a relay DQ to pull this out.
How does the 400 MR DQ impact the meet? After a great morning performance will this damper their attitude between sessions and slow them down tonight? Will it just make them more determined the rest of the way?
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March 15, 2007 at 9:21 pm #36704
Its all an ACT
Member@The Treat wrote:
@miller wrote:
The results are still showing all those DQs in the 400MR.
Is that real???
looks like it. i scored emory, denison and kenyon after day 1 (very quickly done, might have errors).
Kenyon 150
emory 147
denison 84I tried to get everone scored, I also did it real quick, but it should be pretty close. As of prelims I have.
1. Kenyon 146
Emory 146
3. Denison 113
4. Williams 84
5. Johh Hopkins 79
6. Gustavus 74
7. Stevens Point 59
8. Grove City 54
9. Washington and Lee 51
10. St. Olaf 42
11. MIT 26
12. Lacrosse 25
13. Westimister 23
14. Hope
TCNJ 18
16. Wheaton (MA)
Careleton 17
18. Merchant Marine 15
19. U.C Santa Cruz 14
Kalamazoo 14
21. NYU 9
22. Washington U 6
Redland 6
24. Tufts 5
Case Western 5
26. Coast Gaurd 4
27. Depauw 3
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March 15, 2007 at 11:11 pm #36705
silentp
MemberEmory is swimming great, Kenyon is on fire. Let’s not forget, Kenyon scores more points on Day 3 than most teams will score period, that’s their day, so to be doing this now, with a relay dq’d, wow.
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March 15, 2007 at 11:16 pm #36706
RadAGator
MemberGoing into the night session, prelims predicts:
1. Kenyon 146
1.Emory 146
3.Denison 113
Williams 84
4.John Hopkins 79
5.Gustavus 74
6.Stevens Point 59
7.Grove City 54
8.Washington and Lee 51
9.St. Olaf 43
10.Occidental 37
11.TCNJ 30
11.U.C Santa Cruz 30
13.MIT 26
14.Lacrosse 25
15.Westimister 23
16.RPI 23
17.Hope 18
18.Wheaton (MA) 17
18.Carleton 17
18.SUNY Oswego 17
21.Merchant Marine 15
21.Rowan 15
22.Kalamazoo 14
22.RIT 14
24.NYU 9
25.SUNY Potsdam 7
26.Washington U 6
26.Redlands 6
26.CMS 6
29.Tufts 5
29.Case Western 5
29.SUNY Fredonia 5
32.Coast Gaurd 4
33.Depauw 3
33.Middlebury 3
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March 15, 2007 at 11:40 pm #36707
chunkybearcub137
Memberso why was kenyon dqed in the 400 medley??
did the breaststroker jump? cuz if not thats a good time
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March 15, 2007 at 11:49 pm #36708
swim5599
MemberKenyon holds on in the 200 FR. Washington and Lee 1:21.6 wow. Mitchell 19.57 holy smokes. Courage 19.68.
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March 16, 2007 at 4:02 am #36709
stokes
MemberZarin’s jumped in the medley. Anyone know what happened to the Oshkosh diver?
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March 16, 2007 at 5:01 am #36710
N Dynamite
Member@stokes wrote:
Zarin’s jumped in the medley. Anyone know what happened to the Oshkosh diver?
Amazingly, and scary, he went off the board weird doing a twister and hit the wall with his head. Hopefully he’s alright.
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March 16, 2007 at 3:53 pm #36711
swim5599
MemberInteresting that Steen called yesterday’s morning “in 31 years this morning was the absolute best” Man too bad about the dq. That was one helluva session for them.
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March 16, 2007 at 7:24 pm #36712
Anonymous
MemberThe Oshkosh diver is fine … some bruising, concussion, and stitches. He’s out of the hospital and back at his hotel.
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March 16, 2007 at 7:28 pm #36713
N Dynamite
Member@bigdogracing wrote:
The Oshkosh diver is fine … some bruising, concussion, and stitches. He’s out of the hospital and back at his hotel.
Thank goodness – nothing scarier than a diver hitting the deck on a dive. Hopefully he doesn’t have any long term problems from this – and from the sounds of what you’re saying I mean that he will be able to dive again without fear.
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