Mac of the MIAC Year 2 – D3 Dynasty Swimming

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    • #12621

      D3 Dynasty Swimming
      Mac of the MIAC is back. I am rested and ready to take on all heathens, mouth breathers, and choir majors. So get ready to take your posts to the writing center, as d3 swimming is on my radar like the Thunderbird.

      Firstly, I would like to formally announce year 2 of Mac of the MIAC, D3 Fantasy Swimming. With the outright success of last year’s league, I am pleased to announce a generous expansion. During the much anticipated 07/08 season, the Mac of the MIAC will be expanded to three 12 team leagues. The first league, the Premiership, is set. Leagues 2 and 3 are open for enrollment. If you have a posse of ex-swimmers itching to get a d3 league going, please send me a private message, or email jeremy@trekshare.com. Please include your name, year, college, how I would know you, what you most admire about me (most likely my hair), your current tier 1 friend count, your relationship to assistant to the head coach Andy Hagen, the drunkest you have ever been, and your best time in the 100 freestyle.

      Secondly, I would like to announce that the aforementioned 3 d3 fantasy swimming leagues will optionally participate in promotion and relegation. Each year, leagues 1,2 will relegate the bottom team to the lower division. Each year, leagues 2,3 will promote the top team to the upper division. If your team is promoted, you will have the option of ascending to a higher league, or staying with your buddies in your current league. A promoted team will assume the roster of the relegated team, and visa-versa.

      Thirdly, and most importantly, all Mac of the MIAC leagues will turn dynasty. What does this mean? Instead of drafting swimmers each year, teams will draft a swimmer for their entire 4 year career. Subsequent drafts will include only undrafted swimmers, incoming freshman, and transfer swimmers.

      Q & A
      How can I participate? First, you must contact the Mac of the MIAC to determine eligibility. Please answer the aforementioned questions with your sharpest wit. You must additionally be able to attend a live draft at my house in Uptown on October 13th.

      Who can’t participate? If you graduated from St. Olaf, attended St. Olaf, or thought about attending St. Olaf, you cannot participate. If you did attend St. Olaf, and are dying to participate, I will need your college transcripts, major code, and a waiver signed by assistant to the head coach Andy Hagen. If you are a current swimmer, you cannot participate.

      Anyone else? Yes. If you post on this board and have referred to male swimmers as “studs” within the last year, you cannot participate. This is the 15 Centimeter Mark rule.

      Sincerely,

      Mac of the MIAC

    • #38343
      99 Red
      Member

      First off, I love the MIAC fantasy swimming. But I’ve got a question. If you are having people move up and down in leagues, and you are having career drafting, doesn’t that mean that you will have people owned by two people in the league? Also, if you can trade with in a league, does that mean you could have a guy on your team twice? With three leagues and three drafts, you could even get the same guy on your team three times!

      And what about the swimmers who are on the team that gets relegated? If they aren’t represented in a league because their owner transfered to a different group, can they be drafted again? If that is the case, then you could, in year 3, have a relay of only one guy! And if that is the case, can you use just one split by that swimmer?

    • #38344

      Promoted and relegated teams swap rosters. The promoted team has the option of moving up, but does not have to.

      @99 Red wrote:

      First off, I love the MIAC fantasy swimming. But I’ve got a question. If you are having people move up and down in leagues, and you are having career drafting, doesn’t that mean that you will have people owned by two people in the league? Also, if you can trade with in a league, does that mean you could have a guy on your team twice? With three leagues and three drafts, you could even get the same guy on your team three times!

      And what about the swimmers who are on the team that gets relegated? If they aren’t represented in a league because their owner transfered to a different group, can they be drafted again? If that is the case, then you could, in year 3, have a relay of only one guy! And if that is the case, can you use just one split by that swimmer?

    • #38345
      silentp
      Member

      @Mac of the MIAC wrote:

      Anyone else? Yes. If you post on this board and have referred to male swimmers as “studs” within the last year, you cannot participate. This is the 15 Centimeter Mark rule.

      The Sport Guy actually tackled a question regarding calling great athletes studs,

      Q: Can we declare a moratorium on the use of the word “stud” to describe athletes? I can’t be the only one who’s getting a liiiittle weirded out by the overuse of this phrase.
      –Christopher, Hartford, Conn.

      SG: I’d like to eliminate “stud” as well as any phrase that involves scouts or GMs and the words “drooling” or “salivating.” Instead of stud, can’t we just use “specimen”? And couldn’t we come up with another phrase than “filthy stuff” for a pitcher? The word “filthy” means “dirty, grimy or muddy.” It doesn’t even make sense. Would you ever say that a pitcher had muddy stuff? I like “nasty” a little more, but that’s been overused, as well — I’d much rather see us gravitate toward stronger adjectives such as “malevolent,” “callous” or “inhuman.” It should sound as though we’re describing a ruthless dictator from the 1500s or something. Here, watch how I handle this next question.

    • #38346

      Mac, glad you’re back!

      Why would you want to take a team that obviously sucks enough to be relegated?

      I recommend sticking with keepers. I am however open to bumping up the entry fee even though I’m sure Speedo Mini-Chub will bitch about it.

      I would however like to somehow add a few dual meets to the season… or some sort of mid-season event (like a Fantasy Minnesota Invite) where we take the top times prior to Jan 1 and give out some sort of award.

    • #38347
      Norman Dale
      Member

      We tried this in the MIAA last year. Dual meets are too frequent and take up too much time. But Chapel Partner is right, you do need something more and the Fantasy Minnesota Invite would be perfect! If you can have some sort of midseason meet AND the MIAC Championships you’re all set. Beauty of the midseason meet (or any fantasy meet for that matter) is that you can add your 800 medley relay!

      Be careful not to add too much to the season as it could result in the draft being the best part of it.

    • #38348

      Fantasy Minnesota Invite? Gold. Consider it done. This will make my first road trip to Carthage all the more palatable.

      @Norman Dale wrote:

      We tried this in the MIAA last year. Dual meets are too frequent and take up too much time. But Chapel Partner is right, you do need something more and the Fantasy Minnesota Invite would be perfect! If you can have some sort of midseason meet AND the MIAC Championships you’re all set. Beauty of the midseason meet (or any fantasy meet for that matter) is that you can add your 800 medley relay!

      Be careful not to add too much to the season as it could result in the draft being the best part of it.

    • #38349

      Although I like the idea of a dynasty MIAC league, I think you are right. Keepers are good enough, and if we were to do dynasty, our drafts would be only 2 or so rounds. That would take the fun out of subsequent drafts.

      @Chapel Partner wrote:

      Mac, glad you’re back!

      Why would you want to take a team that obviously sucks enough to be relegated?

      I recommend sticking with keepers. I am however open to bumping up the entry fee even though I’m sure Speedo Mini-Chub will bitch about it.

      I would however like to somehow add a few dual meets to the season… or some sort of mid-season event (like a Fantasy Minnesota Invite) where we take the top times prior to Jan 1 and give out some sort of award.

    • #38350

      Top 10 returning swimmers based on points from last year’s conference meet.

      Nelson Westby, OLAF
      Matt Stewart, GAC
      Tedd Marschall, CAR
      Jacob Koch, OLAF
      Ben Hanson, GAC
      Jonathan Tapia, HAM
      Nate Bentley, OLAF
      TJ Hardy, UST
      William Khoury-Hanold, HAM
      Skylar Davis, GAC

      Who will taken the spots of Brian Amundson and Scott Hagemeyer on GAC relays? Who swims backstroke? Skylar Davis or Greg Pokorski? Does JC realize that converting Tyler Wakefield to a distance swimmer roughly a week before conference cost him the championship? Are Tyler and Jonah Winter going to be on 3 freestyle relays a piece?

    • #38351
      Tobias
      Member

      Allow me to put on my analrapist (I am the first analyst/therapist) stocking on my head and mention that the Minnesota Invite is now a Grand Prix meet and only teams that are invited are allowed to go.

    • #38352
      Kari Byron
      Member

      @Mac of the MIAC wrote:

      Does JC realize that converting Tyler Wakefield to a distance swimmer roughly a week before conference cost him the championship?

      Jesus. This is ancient history. This has been debated to death in another thread I would just like to say that you’re an idiot for bringing it up again and still pondering the outcome of last year’s meet. True, Carlson’s decision was bold. However, he felt that it was the right decision for the team at the time. I believe that the final score wouldn’t have been as close without the move.

      Hindsight is always 20/20; get over yourself and move on.

    • #38353
      Kari Byron
      Member

      @Tobias wrote:

      … the Minnesota Invite is now a Grand Prix meet and only teams that are invited are allowed to go.

      Do you know what teams have been invited?

    • #38354
      Tobias
      Member

      cannot help you there.

    • #38355

      This is a fantasy discussion. Tyler Wakefield was on my team and I lost points because of Jon’s decision. I think Jon is a great coach and an even better motivator. He did way more analysis than I did regarding Tyler and I trust that he made the right decision for GAC. It goes without saying that he did not make the best decision for Tyler.

      Now back to the real discussion, as Tyler Wakefield has the potential to be a first rounder. Will Tyler be GAC’s best sprinter this year, or will he be their 6th best distance swimmer?

      @Kari Byron wrote:

      @Mac of the MIAC wrote:

      Does JC realize that converting Tyler Wakefield to a distance swimmer roughly a week before conference cost him the championship?

      Jesus. This is ancient history. This has been debated to death in another thread I would just like to say that you’re an idiot for bringing it up again and still pondering the outcome of last year’s meet. True, Carlson’s decision was bold. However, he felt that it was the right decision for the team at the time. I believe that the final score wouldn’t have been as close without the move.

      Hindsight is always 20/20; get over yourself and move on.

    • #38356

      GAC lost because they didn’t swim fast enough to score more points.

      Tyler Wakefield will return to sprinter status (unless he gets bumped by some incoming freshmen… or knocks up a fatty and quits the team).

      GAC will not win the 200 FR this year.

      Adam Meyer will be the breakout story of 2007-2008.

    • #38357
      Kari Byron
      Member

      @Mac of the MIAC wrote:

      It goes without saying that he did not make the best decision for Tyler.

      One would think that if it’s the best decision for the team, it would also be the best decision for the athlete.

    • #38358
      Kari Byron
      Member

      @Chapel Partner wrote:

      GAC will not win the 200 FR this year.

      Any evidence to back that up? Such as added splits or anything? I think it will still go to GAC, just not by margin it did when Amundson and Hagemeyer were on it. The 200 FR will suffer now that they have to spend more than 41 seconds on two of their legs…

      @Chapel Partner wrote:

      Adam Meyer will be the breakout story of 2007-2008.

      Oooh. I like this claim. Bold. Very bold. I think that the breakout story could possibly come from Whitaker Davis as well.

    • #38359

      I should have mentioned GAC lost too because of diving… but that has also been talked about into the ground.

      GAC loses a 20.7 lead-off and 19.87 anchor.
      If they replace them with Wakefield and Auyeung (not saying they will), you add about 2 seconds to the relay. Of course, those guys could have big years, but I’m basing this off last year’s times.

      SJU graduates 3 of their 4. so they are probably out of the running.

      But Olaf and St. Thomas return everyone. And Olaf lost to the Gusties by under 2 seconds. And St. Thomas was just under 3 seconds behind.

      I know it is unlikely St. Thomas makes up that time unless they recruit some 20-point guy to match up with Hardy. But without knowing recruits, I’d give the edge to Koch, Westby, Bently, and Edwards over Winter, Stewart, Wakefield, and Ayeung.

      I could be missing something, like Ben Hanson is a 20.9 50 guy, so feel free to correct me if GAC has someone else I am missing on the current roster who put up a sub 21 relay time, or low 21 open, last year.

      And if GAC loses Assistant to the Head Coach Hagen this year, you gotta figure that is a blow to the team.

    • #38360

      Keepers are due October 1st.

    • #38361

      Jonathan Tapia Rodriguez has been traded for a 5th rounder. Below are the keepers for the 07/08 season. A one team expansion draft will occur tomorrow.

      Mac of the MIAC – Ted Marshall, JR CAR
      Torn Peck – Jonathan Tapia-Rodriguez, SR HAM
      EMan’s Revenge – Nate Bentley, SO STO
      Jameservention – William Khoury-Hanold, SO HAM
      Gypsy Tears – Jake Koch, JR STO
      Sleeve of Wizard – Nelson Westby, JR STO
      Pat – Matt Stewart, JR GAC
      Nate – Ben Hanson, SR GAC
      Speedo Mini-Chub – TJ Hardy, SR UST
      Swimming Merit Badge – Skylar Davis, SO GAC

      TJ – Adam Meyer STO

    • #38362

      Adam Meyer of STO has been selected first in the expansion draft.

    • #38363

      Connor Ziegler, SR, GAC has been selected in the expansion draft.

    • #38364

      The 12 keepers are:

      Mac of the MIAC – Ted Marshall, JR CAR
      Torn Peck – Jonathan Tapia-Rodriguez, SR HAM
      EMan’s Revenge – Nate Bentley, SO STO
      Jameservention – William Khoury-Hanold, SO HAM
      Gypsy Tears – Jake Koch, JR STO
      Sleeve of Wizard – Nelson Westby, JR STO
      Pat – Matt Stewart, JR GAC
      Nate – Ben Hanson, SR GAC
      Speedo Mini-Chub – TJ Hardy, SR UST
      Swimming Merit Badge – Skylar Davis, SO GAC
      Dungeon Master – Adam Meyer, SO STO
      Distance Dave – Connor Ziegler, SR GAC

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