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    • #12795
      stewie
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      Ok, I know everyone is dying to talk about this. First, we need order of events. There will be a mile and 4 IM on Sat. Who wins what? How will Carthage factor in? Will there be two heats of every event? Does Hope have a shot at K in the 4 med? Great matchups too…CVB v. Fleming in 2 fr, Julio v. Richardson in 500, mile, Ellis v. Heyboer in bks, Dekker v. Nelis in flys/IM

    • #40406
      Low Tide
      Member

      Does Hope have a shot at K in the 4 med?

      No.

    • #40407
      silentp
      Member

      @stewie wrote:

      How will Carthage factor in?

      Means everyone will likely swim their best events rather than matching up with each other.

      Hope wins both of their duals, K loses both, and therefore, Carthage splits

      @Low Tide wrote:

      Does Hope have a shot at K in the 4 med?

      No.

      Only if Ellis is out.

    • #40408
      Low Tide
      Member

      Is something wrong with him?

    • #40409
      swim5599
      Member

      I think Carthage has a shot to win this whole meet.

    • #40410
      stewie
      Member

      2 heats of each event, 4 people from each team. You can swim 3 events each day and they can be of any combo, even 3 individuals. So, someone could swim 6 indy’s and no relays.

    • #40411
      W3ndell
      Member

      I think Carthage’s team is a very strong dual meet team as is Kzoo’s. Hope really has not had any competition yet this year so it will be interesting to see what they have in store when they are actually trying to win. It should be one of the most fun meets of the year to compete in and to watch. I also dont think any one team will run away with it becuase each team is very different in their strong events.

    • #40412
      Bocephus
      Member

      True or False? & thoughts…
      this meet is one of the top dual meets of the season in D3

    • #40413
      Low Tide
      Member

      Nah, you’ve got the 17th, 19th and 21st nationally ranked teams from last year. Probably will not keep too many outside of those respective schools glued to the refresh icon for results.

    • #40414
      silentp
      Member

      Winners, I got winners… and i’m stealing the nicknames thing, although mine won’t be as good

      4med – The might Kzooks
      2IM – Phil “em up” Heyboer
      500 – Bryan “but spelled like Ryan” Pelka
      1br – Alfonso “I’m proud to be an American soon” Espinosa
      2bk – Phil “goin for the kill” Heyboer
      1fr – Andy “I am dandy” Bax
      2fly – Bryan “I can’t believe Greg put me in the 200 fly after making me do the 500” Pelka
      2 fr relay – The flying Dutchmen never went so fast

      2 med – Kzaam is better with Kzoo than with Shaq
      mile – Bryan “seriously coach, the 500, the 200 fly and now the 1650?” Pelka
      50 – Ryan “Ying-Yang” Vogelzang
      1bk – Paul “Overzelous” Ellis
      200 – Craig “i just ate an egg” Fleming
      2br – Stephen “it” Schrank “i swear”
      1fly – Ryan “my uncle swam for kzoo so that makes me 1/10 cool” Nelis*
      4IM – Phil “i don’t complain i just bring on the pain” Heyboer
      4fr – Hope says no to dope

      *edited on the suggestion of Wendell, rather than looking like someone who can’t pronounce the guy’s last name, thanks!

    • #40415
      W3ndell
      Member

      Well P just so you know Nelis’s nickname should be better. Mainly becuase it doesnt make sense or rhyme. Nelis is pronounced like NEEEEEElis. Unless we pronounce Ellis’s name wrong is it really EEELIS? Anyway your predictions look pretty good except the 1 free I think will be a Hope swimmer.

    • #40416
      TheDon
      Member

      Actually Ryan has two uncles that swam for Kazoo. Fred and Pat. Fred, 4 years, Pat, freshman year only. He did, however, transfer to Hope and swam there as well.

    • #40417
      DonCheadle
      Member

      Ryan “Uncle Know’s Best” Nelis?

    • #40418
      facenorth
      Member

      The freshman from Carthage will be one to watch in the 200 Back.

    • #40419
      Low Tide
      Member

      Ryan “Uncle Know’s Best” Nelis?

      😆

    • #40420
      swimkid4221
      Member

      We know that Carthage is swimming very well right now, and will most likely win each of the duals, but what about the end of the season? Are they going to continue the tradition of swimming well in season and blowing up during taper compared to other teams? Not to mention, I don’t think there is a single person on either Hope or K’s team that gives a rat’s rear end about Carthage at this meet, so why pay attention to a team that falls hard at the end of the season every year?

    • #40421
      silentp
      Member

      @swimkid4221 wrote:

      We know that Carthage is swimming very well right now, and will most likely win each of the duals, but what about the end of the season? Are they going to continue the tradition of swimming well in season and blowing up during taper compared to other teams? Not to mention, I don’t think there is a single person on either Hope or K’s team that gives a rat’s rear end about Carthage at this meet, so why pay attention to a team that falls hard at the end of the season every year?

      That was not the case last year as they swam exceptional at NCAAs. I would be less worried about the name on the cap or suit and more worried about having fun and racing against good competition… and trying to figure out where you’ll sit when you’re done because it’s so small.

    • #40422
      Bocephus
      Member

      i agree, their breaststrokers swam really well at ncaa’s and managed a top 20 finish without any relays. earheart has a good of a program in kenosha. plus a nice pool…with deck space.

    • #40423
      quacker
      Member

      yes, Carthage does have a nice pool, with plenty of deck space. but no diving boards? anyone know why?

    • #40424
      Bocephus
      Member

      @quacker wrote:

      yes, Carthage does have a nice pool, with plenty of deck space. but no diving boards? anyone know why?

      there is no diving in the CCIW conference.

    • #40425
      Rudy Shingle
      Member

      insurance

    • #40426
      iamdonovan
      Member

      Results from Day 1 are up:
      http://www.k-swimming.net/results/kzoohopecarthagemen1.php?id=406
      http://www.k-swimming.net/results/kzoohopecarthagewomen1.php?id=407

      I only heard the K-Hope men’s score, which is K 79-69 Hope. Someone could probably score out the other ones, if you feel so inclined. Because of a quantum tunneling effect present in our femtosecond timing system, we were unable to get results from IST and Hy-tek, and were forced to resort to the super old-fashioned method of using watches. Hopefully tomorrow we’ll have the timing system back in order without any weirdness or entanglement, and all will be well. I’ll also try to get the results put up in the database, as they were last season, though this may take some more time…

    • #40427
      silentp
      Member

      Fast swimming out there.

      K did not win the medley (overall), but won the FR.. i would not have bet on that no matter the odds.

    • #40428
      aquaholic
      Member

      Here’s what I added up:

      Women:
      Hope 97 – Kzoo 51
      Hope 79 – Carthage 67
      Carthage 92 – Kzoo 56

      Men
      Kzoo 79 – Hope 69
      Carthage 97 – Hope 51
      Carthage 96 – Kzoo 52

      Considering they won the 200 free relay, I’d expect KZoo to pull away from Hope. Carthage looks (on paper) pretty sharp, at least winning some close ones. Anyone know if they rested at all? Diving and the relays aren’t in their favor though so it’d be cool if Kzoo could make a run at them.

      Anyone have some live reporting from the meet?

      SilentP goes 2 for 8 on his predictions. So going on his lineup, here’s what I’ve got – admittedly the picks are easier:

      2 med – Zoo takes the short medley
      mile – Pelka – this is a gimme
      50 – Vogelzang – I heard he touched out Davis anyway
      Back – Drake, I would say Ellis, but after seeing the 200. How did they split on the relay?
      200 – Heyboyer in a suprise move.
      Breast – Schranck
      1fly – Decker
      4IM – Heyboer wins again
      4fr – 4 guys under 50 in the 100, you gotta have Hope

    • #40429
      iamdonovan
      Member

      Ellis was ahead at the 100 of the 200 back. It doesn’t show due to the lack of splits, but I’ll contribute that much.

      Also just a bit ahead after the first leg of the medley.

    • #40430
      breakdancer
      Member

      Zoo actually didnt win the 200 free relay. When Hope showed for diving this morning it was corrected and have a 4 point lead before diving.

    • #40431
      El Duderino
      Member

      I was gonna say, on deck it looked like Hope won the relay, but Zoo gave them a hell of a battle. I was backup timing/running/loading the starters pistol – yes, there was a starters pistol. Anyways, here are what I thought were some noteworthy swims last night:

      400 Medley – By my watch, Ellis was out in about a 53.3. Unofficial, yes, but still fairly impressive. I also got Fonz at about 59 high, at which point the numbers got too big and I stopped paying attention to the watch.

      200 IM – Great race between Dekker and Heyboer – 1:59 at this point of the season is very impressive.

      100 Free – Best race of the night. The officials met behind the blocks after the race to sort it out, and their winning order was way off from one another (I think one official had lane 3 winning, and the other official had lane 3 third).

      200 Free Relay – K really surprised me on this one, Bazzell was brought it home in a 21 mid (don’t know any of the Hope splits, courtesy of our stone age technology). Best part about the race was how pissed the Carthage guys were after getting third.

      All in all, some pretty good swims for a meet that started 15 minutes late
      (20 minutes if you take into account the embarassing National Anthem, which was performed by either Boyz II Men or All 4 One).

    • #40432
      silentp
      Member
    • #40433
      iamdonovan
      Member

      Hope no one bookmarked the previous meet location, I changed the script. Final results are up:

      http://www.k-swimming.net/results/trimeet.php?id=406 for the men,
      http://www.k-swimming.net/results/trimeet.php?id=407 for the women.

      I don’t have scores again, but Carthage won both their duals and K split theirs.

    • #40434
      Milhouse
      Member

      Wait, so does this mean K beat Hope, and Carthage played the Ohio State role and spanked them both? I’m so confused…

    • #40435
      iamdonovan
      Member

      Yes. That’s exactly what it means.

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