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    • #12874
      franchise
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      I will start with my team.. Ivan 59.5 and 2.10.1
      freshman 22.7 in 50 free and that seems to be the most Pat will have this year.. I am sure you all know that is the best that can be done in the situation he has been put in over and over again

    • #41736
      Balki
      Member

      I guess this is what happens when a team gets money (LC)

      http://www.scadathletics.com/Sports/mswim/2007/SW_invitational.asp

    • #41737
      Chris Knight
      Member

      Wow, they are on fire. I did not expect that – but then, it’s hard to know how fast these guys are since they don’t have times on the USA Swimming database. They are a really good team.

      W&L highlights from Kenyon included:

      Sweet 20.4 / 45.0 / 1:40.8
      McGlaston 20.8 / 45.9 / 1:42.7
      Crook 1:42.2 / 1:55.5 (IM)
      Tatman 1:55.7 (Bk)
      Barnds 46.8
      Free Relays 1:23.3 / 3:03.9 / 6:51

    • #41738
      franchise
      Member

      Great meet for Alex, I am really happy for him..
      So, how deep is this LC team? I would think they are better than W&L..
      Is wingate going to have some trouble with them at BGMC?
      There is still a chance they bring in someone in January.. you never know, although this had to cost them 6-7 full scholarships

    • #41739
      H2allpurpose
      Member

      good meet for LC, the head coach had a busy fall making sure those guys got off the boat, so props to him…

      I still am going with Wingate, they were clearly not rested as a team and will have some major drops….but kirk will use those results as motivation(as if he weren’t good at that already) to get some great training the next couple months.

      should be an awesome meet!

    • #41740
      Balki
      Member

      good meet for LC, the head coach had a busy fall making sure those guys got off the boat, so props to him…

      200 free prel fin
      8. Karaman, Zeljko FR LC 1:46.75 2:04.41

      100 back
      8. Wickham, Donna SO LC 59.78 1:20.05

      200 IM
      8. Jordens, Craig FR LC 2:01.66 2:09.41

      500 free
      16. Speranda, Ines FR LC 5:33.68 6:04.98

      200 back
      16. Majlat, Goran FR LC 2:05.24 2:17.39

      100 free
      8. Melin, Anders FR LC 48.07 52.13

      No props from me.

      Some tea bagging going on, don’t you think?

      Their heads are already bigger than Phelps’

    • #41741
      H2allpurpose
      Member

      balki,

      I am not sure I know your def. of tea baggin’….I have an idea as to what we used that term for in college, but I doubt it’s the same here…just wondering…

      I am giving props based on the coaches work to get those boy’s and girls off the boat, eligible, etc. as I know how hard this process can be…

    • #41742
      silentp
      Member

      @H2allpurpose wrote:

      balki,

      I am not sure I know your def. of tea baggin’….I have an idea as to what we used that term for in college, but I doubt it’s the same here…just wondering…

      I am giving props based on the coaches work to get those boy’s and girls off the boat, eligible, etc. as I know how hard this process can be…

      I believe the term he was looking for was “sand bagging”, although tea bagging is way more funny, I just hope none of that was happening on deck.

    • #41743
      Balki
      Member

      I believe the term he was looking for was “sand bagging”, although tea bagging is way more funny, I just hope none of that was happening on deck.

      haha you got it!! That’s the term I use when someone is scared to swim more than one event all out and it’s not NCAA’s. And not fair enough to scratch from the finals to give someone else a chance, that’s where no props came in play!

    • #41744
      H2allpurpose
      Member

      did they do those times in prelims then had huge drops at finals, or were those times just made up going into that meet?

      i remember this comment, “tea baggin” was used when someone that swam last year in the 200IM before the 200 fly and basically used the first 50 to do a dry run for that 200 fly…

      I am just not clear as to why you got your position…sorry, maybe I’m dense?

    • #41745
      Balki
      Member

      Yep, left time is prelims and right side finals.

      I don’t think that’s a good sportsmanship and all but one were freshmen.

    • #41746
      H2allpurpose
      Member

      hundo back they were both less than a sec. slower,
      400Im got much faster in finals
      touch slower at night in 50
      .50 slower at finals in 200 breast
      both SA’s faster at night in finals of 100 fly
      two of the three SA’s nice drops in the 200im at finals, euro kid drops as well….fourth SA, bagged it though, but was 8th no matter what and might have been happy with his am time?
      one time drop in the 500, one added time in the same heat
      finals heat both 200back swimmers drop time, croatian kid bags race
      two .5 slower 100 breast swims
      both finals heat and conso’s heat swimmers have good time drops in 200fly
      top two LC swims have good hundo frees, previous races, last guy has 8th locked up and bags it.

      last relay is claimed by the baggers….looks like they did what they had to to win, I don’t buy the whinning….looks like good meet management to me?

      In the NCAA this will get you DQ’ed that’s fine, its the national championship. Did they win that meet? I’m giving prop’s…good job with recruiting/clearinghouse/eligibility and great swims…I still am going with wingate, but they are going to be a decent team ‘this’ year.

    • #41747
      maverick1
      Member

      @silentp wrote:

      I believe the term he was looking for was “sand bagging”, although tea bagging is way more funny, I just hope none of that was happening on deck.

      wow, i’ve read this about 10 times and still can’t hold in the laughter

    • #41748
      franchise
      Member

      i remember this comment, “tea baggin” was used when someone that swam last year in the 200IM before the 200 fly and basically used the first 50 to do a dry run for that 200 fly…

      Is this me you are talking about?

      I think was Balki is saying is not that they didn’t swim all out in the finals because certainly many have dropped times but that some swimmers didn’t swim nearly as fast as they could have.

      Was it smart move to rest them for the relays? Probably.

      Should they have scratched these events and give someone else an opportunity to swim in the finals? Definitely.

      It is one thing to swim easy in the prelims, or just all out one part of the race but is totally different to make the finals and then “tea bag” the finals..

      Very funny balki, is this the same person who wrote that on collegeswimming.com about me?

    • #41749
      Balki
      Member

      Nah, I’m not on there, I don’t know who said that before.

      You got my point about LC.

      P.S. Nice pic, I see that living at the beach changed your body

    • #41750
      H2allpurpose
      Member

      franchise,

      comments were made by ALL I’M SAYING IS

      sorry to get you all rilled up…

      I guess when it comes down to winning a meet I have a different view…I don’t like doing this for an invite, but I think conference or nat’s I’m all over doing what we have to do.

      Like I said, for an inviter go for it and the meet is probably put away with more points than the relay would come to and I see why you all say they should have scratched, I agree…but when that conf. or NCAA’s would come around and the title was on the line would you all feel the same? Just wondering…I know that at the NCAA you can get DQ’ed for lack of effort, so I don’t know how that adds to the conv…

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