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    • #12075

      With a huge group of Seniors gone from last year, who are the top freshmen people have seen thus far that will make an impact on a national stage?

    • #31853

      A few to get your started.

      Borland – Kenyon
      Thomas – JHU
      Mahoney – JHU
      Ellis – Zoo
      Espinosa – Zoo
      Petroff – Emory
      Davis – GAC
      Kushner – WashU

    • #31854
      silentp
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      A few more that were missed:

      Heyboer, Hope
      Withington, Kenyon
      Dukes, CMU
      Seo, CMU
      Kleinguetl, Hopkins
      Yamada, Emory

      This of course is just men, there are several women who will make even bigger splashes.

    • #31855

      Kleinguetel is a Soph, which disqualifies him from the talk, but he is a stud.

      Anyone know anything about NESCAC frosh?

    • #31856
      silentp
      Member

      @JHUBreaststroke06 wrote:

      Kleinguetel is a Soph, which disqualifies him from the talk, but he is a stud.

      Then Hopkins should update their information they submit for meet entries.

    • #31857
      99 Red
      Member

      Rumor alert! Transfer to Williams from Florida! Blew Spin out of the water with a week 1 intersquad meet 4:44. Big potential impact.

    • #31858
      swim5599
      Member

      What is this kids name? Anyone know

    • #31859
      E0M8S
      Member

      Williams finally has their mens roster up. The two new names are Maxwell Hayman and Christoppher (sp?) Millen. Just looking at their event descriptions, I’m guessing it’s Millen?

    • #31860
      silentp
      Member

      @E0M8S wrote:

      Williams finally has their mens roster up. The two new names are Maxwell Hayman and Christoppher (sp?) Millen. Just looking at their event descriptions, I’m guessing it’s Millen?

      Yes, it is Christopher Millen. Here is a breakdown:

      200 fly – 1:51
      1650 – 16:01
      400 IM – 4:03
      500 – 4:38
      200 – 1:43

    • #31861
      maverick1
      Member

      that’s a decent recruit

    • #31862
      swim5599
      Member

      Yeah 1:51 in the 200 fly is not bad

    • #31863

      All of his time are better than not bad, they are dang good, the 2fly, 4IM and Mile already score at nats, and the 200 free will help their relay. If he is already 4:44 and beating Spinelli, I’d say we’d better lookout!

    • #31864

      So I’m having a hard time finding something that Marin Hawk is not nasty at. Wash U. Thanksgiving Invite.

      17:37.18-1650

      I think that’s under last years Q time.

    • #31865
      neswim
      Member

      Under impact freshman add Tina Ertel from Kenyon.

      2:04.28 200 IM at the TYR Invitational…pretty good unrested, unshaved swim. Looks like Payne’s 2006 record is in danger. Also she has A cuts in the 200 free and 100 fly so far. As noted elsewhere the 200 free will be very fast if Psaris, Preyess (sp?) and Ertel all swim it. On the other hand, if both Ertel and Psaris elect the 100 fly we might see two individual records fall that day (100 fly and 200 free).

    • #31866
      seese54367
      Member

      Ertel is insanely fast….she’s 101.7 in the 100 fly, 2:03 in the 200 free, 57 in the 100 free, and 26 in the 50 free. All long course times but I think all are olympic trial quialifing times in America or right on them. Compare that to Preyss who is also 26 in the 50, 57 in the 100, and 2:05 in the 200 long course. I hope they race in at least 1 event. The 200 could be an amazing race.

    • #31867
      neswim
      Member

      I’d guess she’d swim the 100 fly rather than 200 free. But we could see a showdown in the 100 free and she’s also gone 52 low as has Preyess.

    • #31868
      Nescacfan
      Member

      When you add FY backstroker Emily Jacobssen to the mix, Kenyon has added real strength to their medley relays. I am not sure that anyone can beat them at Nationals in those two events. Amherst may have the best chance in the 400.

    • #31869
      neswim
      Member

      @Nescacfan wrote:

      When you add FY backstroker Emily Jacobssen to the mix, Kenyon has added real strength to their medley relays. I am not sure that anyone can beat them at Nationals in those two events. Amherst may have the best chance in the 400.

      And Emory might have the best chance in the 200 MR with Westby and Psaris.

      The showdown with Amherst in the 800 free should be interesting. Ertel will likely swim in that relay, assuming Gagnon comes back from her foreign studies and swims the fly leg of the 200 MR, and its also possible that another freshman will make the relay stronger (Arad or Wenzlau) so you’re looking at a Kenyon 800 Free relay that is lot faster than last year. Of course, Amherst returns all of their swimmers so they could be faster, also.

    • #31870
      Nescacfan
      Member

      Amherst FY Anna Haring should be competing for a spot on the 800-free relay by NESCAC championships. However it may be tough for Coach Nichols to split up the four who swam it so well last year. I suspect we wil be looking at a 7:32 or better to win.

    • #31871
      Nescacfan
      Member

      This time swum by the Kenyon women yesterday would have beaten the Amherst women last year at Nationals.

      Kenyon College ‘A’ 7:33.47
      1) Ertel, Tina 2) Wenzlau, Rebecca
      3) Coker, Kate 4) Arad, Danielle

      There is no way that the Kenyon women lose to Emory in Houston this year. They have added too much strength.

    • #31872

      @Nescacfan wrote:

      There is no way that the Kenyon women lose to Emory in Houston this year. They have added too much strength.

      I disagree. if you notice the impact freshmen on the defending championship team Emory- Leigh Psaris (definate top 8 finisher and no doubt national champion contender in the 2fly) along with Westby and two other freshmen who swam A and/or B cuts at the Miami Invite.

    • #31873

      @wickedfoolish wrote:

      @Nescacfan wrote:

      There is no way that the Kenyon women lose to Emory in Houston this year. They have added too much strength.

      I disagree. if you notice the impact freshmen on the defending championship team Emory- Leigh Psaris (definate top 8 finisher and no doubt national champion contender in the 2fly) along with Westby and two other freshmen who swam A and/or B cuts at the Miami Invite.

      At the top, Kenyon and Emory are pretty equal. Pasternak, Hostalet, Psaris, Westby, and Smith compare pretty equally with Connors, Arad, Ertel, Jacobssen, and Carlton. I have to agree with Nescacfan, though, when he points out that Kenyon has more depth. That depth has to taper well and score, and Kenyon will win.

    • #31874
      Nescacfan
      Member

      @My Spoon’s Too Big! wrote:

      @wickedfoolish wrote:

      @Nescacfan wrote:

      At the top, Kenyon and Emory are pretty equal. Pasternak, Hostalet, Psaris, Westby, and Smith compare pretty equally with Connors, Arad, Ertel, Jacobssen, and Carlton. I have to agree with Nescacfan, though, when he points out that Kenyon has more depth. That depth has to taper well and score, and Kenyon will win.

      Look at the Top Times thread. Kenyon’s depth and relay strength is apparent.

      Compare the relay times from this past weekend:

      200 Free K 135.47 E 136.41
      400 Free K 329.59 E 329.91
      800 Free K 733.47 E did not swim event. K’s time almost a national record.
      200 Medley K 146.08 E 148.50
      400 Medley K 352.33 E 355.59

      I know the Kenyon women will have to hit their tapers and not DQ any relays, but I still strongly believe that they win in Houston this year.

    • #31875
      neswim
      Member

      I agree that while the Emory and Kenyon women’s teams appear very evenly match (they both have about the same number of potential qualifers season to date based on 2006 Q times) and equal star power as also pointed out (this is new development for Kenyon in recent years).

      The power of depth is reflected in the relay times. Kenyon women nearly broke the national record and didn’t even have their four best 200 swimmers in the A relay! There is a real possibility that Kenyon will win every relay this year and in any case they will most likely finish ahead of Emory in the relays. This should more than offset any Emory diving points.

      This is snapshot view at mid-season. There’s still a lot training ahead and then the conference meets. Still at this point in time the numbers to-date support a Kenyon victory.

      One question: How many national records to you think will be set at women’s nationals this year? If the over/under was 3 I’d take the over.
      I’d say 5 is reachable goal.

    • #31876
      N Dynamite
      Member

      I think 5 may be conservative – both fly’s, the IM’s, a couple relays, 200 fr…that’s about 7. Maybe I’m too optimistic, but there are some fast women out there this year.

    • #31877
      swim5599
      Member

      The women’s meet will probably be the fastest in history this year. I would say 5 would be reachable as well

    • #31878
      Nescacfan
      Member

      @N Dynamite wrote:

      I think 5 may be conservative – both fly’s, the IM’s, a couple relays, 200 fr…that’s about 7. Maybe I’m too optimistic, but there are some fast women out there this year.

      I agree that 5 new women’s records is a conservative estimate. Two or three relays, the 200 free, both fly events, both IM events and even both back events are candidates for new records. I don’t know about the 100 and 500 free. What do you think?

      The FY women will make their marks on the record book, but don’t sell past champions Weima, Orstein, Sasser, Kephart and Ross[mono last year] short.

    • #31879
      neswim
      Member

      I included the following in my count of new women national records..

      Highly Probable

      800 Free Relay
      200 Fly
      200 IM
      200 Free

      Likely
      100 Fly
      200 Back
      400 IM

      Possible
      500 Free

      I think the 100 is a stretch…same with the other relays. Also agree that while some of the very fast incoming freshman are providing new impetus quite a few records will be set by past champions as they are pushed by the newcomers.

      The women’s meet looks much faster, relatively speaking, than the men’s right now.

    • #31880
      swim5599
      Member

      I do not think the 100 free will be touched this year. 49.7 is damn fast.

    • #31881
      swim826
      Member

      i think the 500 free might be in danger… psaris of emory and arad of kenyon have both been 4:59 low…
      the 500 is a new event for psaris that she didn’t swim much before coming to emory. the girl is an absolute beast.. i dont think “tired” is in her vocabulary. it’ll be interesting to see what she can do with the event in march after a little more experience with it, but i don’t think 4:55.1 is out of her reach.

    • #31882
      swim5599
      Member

      Yeah I could see that record being broken also. I remember watching Carty break that record, she split that race beautifully. I believe she was sitting at about 1:58.3 at the 200, if that gives you any indication of just how much she brought it that last 300

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