how to beat olivet at miaas and some other garbage

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    • #12903
      maverick1
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      This is all taken from the spreadsheet i used to score out the meet with silentp:

      -it looks like both K and Hope will be outscored by around 65-75 points in the two distance freestyle events (combined point differences)

      -ditto….70 points in diving

      other interesting notes:
      -hopes 2nd strongest event, i have as a tie between the 200IM and the 100free
      -hopes 4th strongest event looks to either be the 200 free or the 400IM
      -i have olivet scoring less than 20 points in 3 events, hope in 8 and kzoo in 7
      -alma hurts hope more than they hurt olivet or kzoo
      -calvin outscores hope in the two diving events and the 500 free, they also outscore kzoo in diving, the 500, the 1650 and the 400im
      -kzoo’s strongest event against hope is the 100fly, hopes strongest event against kzoo is the 50free (not much surprise here)
      -olivet outscores k by more than 25 points in 4 events
      -hope outscores k by 25 points or more in 2 events
      -k does not outscore hope or olivet by 25 points or more in any event

    • #42189
      SwexasTim
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      Interesting post….thanks for including us. Though now I have to feel guilty for the next 2 months about hurting hope more than zoo and oc.

    • #42190
      breakdancer
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      calvin outscores hope in the two diving events and the 500 free, they also outscore kzoo in diving, the 500, the 1650 and the 400im

      How will Calvin outscore hope in the 500? The only one Clavin has that would make top 6 is Conrad. If Heyboer swims it he is an automatic second. Then we have Richardson, Ray, and Stone all with the potential to make top 6. Now I would understand if the 500 and diving for Clavin were counted together, but not separately. Its four guys to one.

    • #42191
      maverick1
      Member

      @breakdancer wrote:

      The only one Clavin has that would make top 6 is Conrad. If Heyboer swims it he is an automatic second. Then we have Richardson, Ray, and Stone all with the potential to make top 6.

      when we looked at the 500 we placed conrad as 3rd or 4th, and heyboer not in the event (he’ll be in the 200IM because of the chance for a win there…..why take, at best, 2nd when he can at least fight for a win in the 2IM?). I honestly don’t see richardson, stone or ray in the top 6 either.

      if conrad is 3rd he gets 12 points
      right now we have richardson at 8th, stone at 9th and ray at 11th for 11 points

    • #42192
      maverick1
      Member

      ok, i should move the oilvet guys up actually

      and conrad down to 4th or 5th now that i think about it

    • #42193
      breakdancer
      Member

      im not trying to argue about conrad outscoring us. I just didnt see how he would. I dont knew how many point each place got, and probably never will. I just assumed three guys would be able to beat one.

    • #42194
      Rudy Shingle
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      Yeah but I think conrad is actually doing alittle better then he has in the past thus far.

    • #42195
      Derek
      Member

      @SwexasTim wrote:

      Interesting post….thanks for including us. Though now I have to feel guilty for the next 2 months about hurting hope more than zoo and oc.

      I knew you had an ulterior motive in taking that job…

    • #42196
      stewie
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      Sooo, you are not putting CVB in the 500. Wouldn’t that make more sense for points? Where do you have him placing in the 50, b/c I think it could be anywhere for 5th to 10th.

      Bottom line about scoring out this meet right now is it is almost impossible to predict the bottom places in every event. Some events are so hard to guess who is going to take 10, 11, and 12, which will probably make the difference in this meet. Not to mention you are guessing what events people swim and what the freshmen do. It’s going to be such a close meet it’s almost pointless to score it out at this point, since the smallest of adjustments in places could be the difference maker. If anything these predictions have shown us that it will in fact be a three-way race and probably one of the closest MIAAs in history….fun stuff.

      Also, who is going to be the first one to talk about how this meet might/will come down to diving once again? Probably 32 pts for K and around 60 for Olivet…. ๐Ÿ˜ˆ

    • #42197
      W3ndell
      Member

      wow stewie, sweet emoticon!

    • #42198
      maverick1
      Member

      You’re right stewie, but remember that the subject to this thread is

      “how to beat olivet and some other garbage”

      i think what you’re arguing falls that category i deemed ‘other garbage’ because it’s pretty much hearsay with just a tiny bit of fact behind it. i do think cvb should swim the 500 as this event will seem to really hurt hope at miaas, unless 2 of the hope distance guys can get top 6.

    • #42199
      DonCheadle
      Member

      @stewie wrote:

      Sooo, you are not putting CVB in the 500. Wouldn’t that make more sense for points? Where do you have him placing in the 50, b/c I think it could be anywhere for 5th to 10th.

      I think you are right about this, in particular if Heyboer swims the 200 IM. CVB is better in the 200 free than the 100, so it isn’t a stretch to say he would do better in the 500 than the 50.

      @stewie wrote:

      Also, who is going to be the first one to talk about how this meet might/will come down to diving once again? Probably 32 pts for K and around 60 for Olivet…. ๐Ÿ˜ˆ

      Diving is more like 70 pts for Olivet and 25 for Kzoo. Arbour certainly isn’t the favorite to win both boards.

    • #42200
      silentp
      Member

      @DonCheadle wrote:

      @stewie wrote:

      Sooo, you are not putting CVB in the 500. Wouldn’t that make more sense for points? Where do you have him placing in the 50, b/c I think it could be anywhere for 5th to 10th.

      I think you are right about this, in particular if Heyboer swims the 200 IM. CVB is better in the 200 free than the 100, so it isn’t a stretch to say he would do better in the 500 than the 50.

      It’s risky strategy and it could pay off big time or backfire. While i see him in that 5-10 range in the 50 also, I don’t see him much different in the 500 (even without Heyboer I don’t see him beating Davis or Conrad, and obviously not Krone). That would put him, at the best, 4th, but with the depth in the 500 and his lack of experience, he could make a mistake and be borderline to even come back. If you want that risk, you need to see who he’d knock down. I think he could actually knock down more Hope guys (if he swims well) in the 500 than the 50.

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