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March 6, 2007 at 10:48 pm #12427
CaseBrst10
MemberMen’s or Women’s
How many National recs. go down and by whom? Time?Can the 50 be won in sub-20? Can we see a sub 1:49 in the women’s 200? Men’s 2free?
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March 6, 2007 at 11:23 pm #36236
My Spoons Too Big
Member@CaseBrst10 wrote:
Can we see a sub 1:49 in the women’s 200? Men’s 2free?
We should see a sub-1:49 in the women’s 200 free, seeing as that is Weima’s best time and 1.5 seconds slower than Preyss’s best. I think all male competitors in that race will break 1:49 as well. 🙂
5 on the women’s side, 0 on the men’s, with Denison’s 800 free relay and Eric Dunn in the mile being closest.
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March 6, 2007 at 11:30 pm #36237
Aflac
MemberThis may be way out of left field, but does Millen have any shot in the 400 IM? Or Curtis in the 200 Free?
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March 6, 2007 at 11:33 pm #36238
My Spoons Too Big
MemberCurtis’s 1:37.9 at midseason would make me think he had a chance, but didn’t he follow it up with a 1:39.? I haven’t followed him closely enough to see if he is a consistent racer, but I suppose with three chances at nationals the opportunity is there to swim a 1:36 one of those times.
Profound, I know.
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March 7, 2007 at 12:02 am #36239
The Treat
Member@Aflac wrote:
This may be way out of left field, but does Millen have any shot in the 400 IM? Or Curtis in the 200 Free?
well technically everyone has a shot, but i dont think either will. is millen the transfer people were talking about earlier in the year? either way, i’m assuming williams was tapered for conference b/c pretty much no one had cuts good enough to make nats and i dont see him dropping 4.5 more seconds. i also dont see curtis going 1:36.9 on the second day of competition (and likely at night b/c he prob won’t be all out in the morning).
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March 7, 2007 at 12:06 am #36240
swim5599
MemberI agree I do not think any men’s records go down. The 800 fr will be very close. I think Curtis probably goes about 1:37.5 for the win. I think Millen probably will be in the 3:56 range, and I would think that Peterson would be right there with him. On the women’s side I see a whole bunch of records going down in what will probably be one of the fastest women’s meet in history.
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March 7, 2007 at 12:07 am #36241
swim5599
MemberANd again I have said this a million times but in my opinion the 200 free record is still held by Mulvihill at 1:36.6
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March 7, 2007 at 1:05 am #36242
chunkybearcub137
Memberdenisons 800 free relay is the best shot in my opinion.. look for drake in the breaststrokes.. especially the 200 breast.. he could make a run at that record
but there will be alot of changed on the top 10 list which is on this website.. how accurate is that list by the way.. i could name a couple times that were missing off the top of my head..
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March 7, 2007 at 1:30 am #36243
neswim
MemberWomen (will get to men next week)
Probable
500 Free
200 Back
200 Fly
200 Medley Relay
800 Free RelayThinkable
100 Free
100 Fly
100 Back
200 IM
400 IMI admit this looks pretty silly but the women’s field, except for breaststroke, is exceptionally loaded at the top, historically speaking.
If there is an over/under for women’s record at 5 then I’ll take the over.
Hope the pool at Univ of Houston is fast.
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March 7, 2007 at 1:47 am #36244
wickedfoolish
MemberI think Curtis will capture both the 200 free and 800 records.
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March 7, 2007 at 2:31 am #36245
Nescacfan
MemberAt least 7 records will be broken by the women in these 9 events. For giggles, I included times. Note, I did not specify the winning swimmer in the individual events. Kenyon, as should be evident from the women’s relay threads, is my choice in the two relays
500 Free 4:54.80
200 IM 2:02.89
200 Medley 1:43.15
400 IM 4:22.70
200 Free 1:48.20*
100 Back 54.78*
800 Free 7:28.43**
200 Back 1:57.54*
200 Fly 1:58.98**Safe bets
**Safest betIf I’m right, on this Friday we could see 5 new records.
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March 7, 2007 at 4:41 am #36246
Captain Insano
Memberwicked, You couldn’t possibly find more annoying avatars.
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March 7, 2007 at 4:56 am #36247
wickedfoolish
Memberclearly the joke is way beyond your mental capacity, next time, ill get one, n00b.
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March 7, 2007 at 1:38 pm #36248
Captain Insano
Member@wickedfoolish wrote:
clearly the joke is way beyond your mental capacity, next time, ill get one, retard-free, n00b.
Dane Cook.
That would be great if you got one “retard free” next time for your sake.
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March 7, 2007 at 11:30 pm #36249
swim5599
Member4:54 in the 500 would be a great swim by anyone. I am interested in who is supposed to do that. I am assuming the girl from Emory?
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March 8, 2007 at 12:00 am #36250
My Spoons Too Big
MemberWatch out for Kono and Hawk from Wash U. Also, Arad hasn’t really rested since November, so she coulod have an explosive swim.
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March 8, 2007 at 12:28 am #36251
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March 8, 2007 at 12:40 am #36252
Lane2AllStar
Memberthat looks like a monkey f***in’ a coconut. is that you? Should I call you MFC? ‘Cause it could be a melon, but its a coco-nut.
Hey bud if you are going to quote somthing quote it right…maybe we should call you wickedretardwhocantquoteanythingright…k bye…
Oh yeah the quote is: That looks like a monkey f***in’ a coconut. is that you? Should I call you MFC? ‘Cause it could be a melon, but it LOOKS LIKE a coco-nut……..!!!!!!!!
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March 8, 2007 at 12:46 am #36253
My Spoons Too Big
Member@neswim wrote:
Presumably Psaris or Arad…I would think the two Wash U swimmers would be a bit of a long shot.
5:00. unrested from Kono at conference is pretty fast. I’m looking to see a 4:56 out of her, but I wouldn’t be surprised with a 4:55.
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March 8, 2007 at 12:17 pm #36254
neswim
Member@My Spoon’s Too Big! wrote:
@neswim wrote:
Presumably Psaris or Arad…I would think the two Wash U swimmers would be a bit of a long shot.
5:00. unrested from Kono at conference is pretty fast. I’m looking to see a 4:56 out of her, but I wouldn’t be surprised with a 4:55.
Point taken…she’s obviously a contender and not a long shot.
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March 8, 2007 at 9:53 pm #36255
swim5599
MemberWell 5:00 this morning puts her in the big heat, so she will have a shot to go that fast. I could see 4:57 or so.
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March 10, 2007 at 9:56 pm #36256
Nescacfan
MemberSo far national women’s records have been set in 5 events:
200 IM
400 IM
100 back[3 different swims– each faster]
800 Free Relay [by 4 teams]
200 Back [in prelims]Will Sasser lower her back record tonight?
Will the 200 fly go under 2:00? Ross or Kephart or can Psaris catch fire?
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March 10, 2007 at 10:59 pm #36257
neswim
Member@Nescacfan wrote:
So far national women’s records have been set in 5 events:
200 IM
400 IM
100 back[3 different swims– each faster]
800 Free Relay [by 4 teams]
200 Back [in prelims]Will Sasser lower her back record tonight?
Will the 200 fly go under 2:00? Ross or Kephart or can Psaris catch fire?
Yes, I think Sasser will break it again and seal swimmer of the meet in my opinion even if Ornstein wins the 200 breast for three titles. Sasser’s relay performances have been equally outstanding.
Don’t think Psaris is having the quite of meet for a sub 2:00…Ross or Kephart could if they are really fired up. Psaris will probably own the record, just not this year.
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March 13, 2007 at 11:35 am #36258
oldswimnfool
MemberSo as the level of traffic on the site has died over the last 48 hours (probably due to the Fantasy Draft – and rightfully so after reading the rules……..) I wanted to put this back out there – which records do we see falling on the Men’s side this year?
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March 13, 2007 at 2:04 pm #36259
DonCheadle
Member@oldswimnfool wrote:
So as the level of traffic on the site has died over the last 48 hours (probably due to the Fantasy Draft – and rightfully so after reading the rules……..) I wanted to put this back out there – which records do we see falling on the Men’s side this year?
None.
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March 13, 2007 at 2:28 pm #36260
Captain Insano
MemberIf I were to bet I would agree with Cheadle.
But I think the 50 free has a chance (Courage) of going down and obviously the 8 free relay is also a possibility. I would put both of those at about 30%.
I don’t think any other records even have a 10% chance.
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March 13, 2007 at 2:30 pm #36261
DonCheadle
Member@Captain Insano wrote:
But I think the 50 free has a chance (Courage) of going down and obviously the 8 free relay is also a possibility. I would put both of those at about 30%.
I don’t think any other records even have a 10% chance.
We really really agree, because I agree that those are the only records with any reasonable chance. I would put the 200 free meet record at better than 10%, though.
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March 13, 2007 at 2:31 pm #36262
DonCheadle
MemberYou know, thinking this over, there is one more that has a shot.
Eric Dunn in the 400 IM.
Many of you are unaware, but Dunn went 4:00 last year.
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March 13, 2007 at 2:41 pm #36263
N Dynamite
Member@DonCheadle wrote:
You know, thinking this over, there is one more that has a shot.
Eric Dunn in the 400 IM.
Many of you are unaware, but Dunn went 4:00 last year.
UNDER 4:00
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March 13, 2007 at 2:47 pm #36264
Captain Insano
MemberAm I missing something? There are two other guys who have gone under 4:00 in the 4 IM this year but not really near the record. Well, I guess 4 seconds is a reasonable drop in a race that long but I still don’t see that one coming down.
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March 13, 2007 at 3:04 pm #36265
swim5599
Member20.2 to 19.9 is a pretty significant drop. I am guessing that record is safe
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March 13, 2007 at 3:24 pm #36266
Captain Insano
Member@swim5599 wrote:
20.2 to 19.9 is a pretty significant drop. I am guessing that record is safe
Yeah but he also went from a 20.6 last year to a 20.2. And… he just scares me a little in general. Super nice guy, but standing next to him makes me feel a bit like Little Mac, or even Dennis Kucinich.
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March 13, 2007 at 10:34 pm #36267
swim5599
MemberNo he is great no doubt about it, but if we base it on last year his 50 was about the same as his conf time. I know there will be people that say he was not rested at conf and blah blah blah, but the fact is that he dropped from 20.6 to 20.2 so He was rested a little. I think he wins the 50 in about the same time 20.2 and probably goes about 44.3 in the 100.
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March 13, 2007 at 10:42 pm #36268
OutsideSmoker27
Member@swim5599 wrote:
I know there will be people that say he was not rested at conf and blah blah blah, but the fact is that he dropped from 20.6 to 20.2 so He was rested a little.
I’m pretty sure he was well-rested for PACs. That said, I have no idea whether he’ll get under 19.90 in the open 50 or not. In a relay split? More likely.
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March 13, 2007 at 10:51 pm #36269
My Spoons Too Big
MemberHow about Dunn in the 1650? His time last year was one of the fastest ever swum in DIII. Might he drop enough time?
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March 13, 2007 at 11:17 pm #36270
swim5599
MemberWell I think he was about 15:50 in December last year and then proceeded to drop almost 30 seconds at nats, so that being said I would think he might have a shot. More than likely it might happen next year.
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March 13, 2007 at 11:18 pm #36271
swim5599
MemberCourage split 19.6 last year, so I am sure he will be under 19.9 relay split, but not flat start
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March 13, 2007 at 11:18 pm #36272
OutsideSmoker27
Member@My Spoon’s Too Big! wrote:
How about Dunn in the 1650? His time last year was one of the fastest ever swum in DIII. Might he drop enough time?
If he does, that’ll be two records for him this year. He’s going after the 400 IM record as well (he was under 4:00 last year). Do we have an early favorite for swimmer of the meet?
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March 13, 2007 at 11:23 pm #36273
swim5599
MemberDunn goes 3:35 and blows away Phelps record in the IM this year. HAHA
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March 14, 2007 at 12:21 am #36274
oldswimnfool
MemberWell I am going to take a stand and say at least three – just for fun. In fact I as I can’t bet….. NCAA rules, I am donating 50 to D3 Swimming….. I am not sure exactly what three will go down, but I have a really hard time believing that no records will be broken. Look at the women’s meet – they far surpassed what anyone whose post I read expected of them.
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March 14, 2007 at 1:04 am #36275
Nescacfan
Member@Nescacfan wrote:
At least 7 records will be broken by the women in these 9 events. For giggles, I included times. Note, I did not specify the winning swimmer in the individual events. Kenyon, as should be evident from the women’s relay threads, is my choice in the two relays
500 Free 4:54.80
200 IM 2:02.89 2:03.13
200 Medley 1:43.15
400 IM 4:22.70 4:22.75
200 Free 1:48.20*
100 Back 54.78* 54.75
800 Free 7:28.43** 7:29.50
200 Back 1:57.54* 1:57.55
200 Fly 1:58.98**Safe bets
**Safest betIf I’m right, on this Friday we could see 5 new records.
I predicted that 7 records would be broken by the women. I was wrong. They broke 5 records in the events in bold above. The actual record times are inserted and underlined above. Surprisingly, Kenyon was not among the record-breakers. I had them as a lock for the 800 Free record. I was also surprised that the 200 Fly record was not broken. I was convinced that Psaris or Kephart would go under 2 minutes.
I don’t see the men breaking more than one record this week.
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March 14, 2007 at 2:27 am #36276
oldswimnfool
MemberSorry must have missed that post – I still stand with 3 or more records.
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March 14, 2007 at 2:28 am #36277
The Treat
Member@Nescacfan wrote:
@Nescacfan wrote:
At least 7 records will be broken by the women in these 9 events. For giggles, I included times. Note, I did not specify the winning swimmer in the individual events. Kenyon, as should be evident from the women’s relay threads, is my choice in the two relays
500 Free 4:54.80
200 IM 2:02.89 2:03.13
200 Medley 1:43.15
400 IM 4:22.70 4:22.75
200 Free 1:48.20*
100 Back 54.78* 54.75
800 Free 7:28.43** 7:29.50
200 Back 1:57.54* 1:57.55
200 Fly 1:58.98**Safe bets
**Safest betIf I’m right, on this Friday we could see 5 new records.
I predicted that 7 records would be broken by the women. I was wrong. They broke 5 records in the events in bold above. The actual record times are inserted and underlined above. Surprisingly, Kenyon was not among the record-breakers. I had them as a lock for the 800 Free record. I was also surprised that the 200 Fly record was not broken. I was convinced that Psaris or Kephart would go under 2 minutes.
I don’t see the men breaking more than one record this week.
well sasser did break the 100 back record 3 times 😀
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March 14, 2007 at 2:36 am #36278
silentp
Member1 record, 800 FR
1 question, did Eric Dunn really break 4:00 in the 400 IM?
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March 14, 2007 at 2:43 am #36279
Chris Knight
MemberI don’t see Byers swimming the 800 FR, so I don’t see them breaking the record.
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March 14, 2007 at 9:34 pm #36280
swim5599
MemberDo you think Denison is sitting Byers for the 800 fr? If he is not on it they do not break the record. I have not looked at the psyche sheet all that closely, but is he entered in 3 individuals or no?
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