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    • #11901
      lane 6er
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      I heard this question from a friend while discussing the world record/gold medal topic. Thought some of you might have some opinions. I personally would rather win silver and not have to share it than share the gold and not have really ‘won’ anything.

    • #29655
      silentp
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      @lane 6er wrote:

      I heard this question from a friend while discussing the world record/gold medal topic. Thought some of you might have some opinions. I personally would rather win silver and not have to share it than share the gold and not have really ‘won’ anything.

      You haven’t won anything with the silver either.

    • #29656
      lane 6er
      Member

      I’m not saying that getting silver is winning. I’m just saying that I don’t consider a tie for first winning either. I guess what I meant was I would rather have EARNED silver and know that it is all mine than have to share a medal/title with someone.

    • #29657
      swim5599
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      I don’t know a gold medal is a gold medal, I would take it either way

    • #29658
      N Dynamite
      Member

      First, as swim5599 put it – gold is gold. Second, if you tied you would be more well recognized as the guy who tied – no one remembers second. Third, if you tie you didn’t win or lose, if you get silver you flat out lost. I’ll take the gold.

    • #29659
      Derek
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      Do you think that Anthony Ervin or Gary Gall Jr. think that it would have been cooler to win the silver than the Gold with each other? I doubt it.

    • #29660
      99 Red
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      Well, here is another take on the same question. You finish the race, whip your head around, see the 1 next to your lane, but then you see the 1 next to somebody else’s lane. If you have a gut reaction to have a swim off to take care of the tie, then I think your gut is chosing to win a silver instead of tying for a gold. If it would have mattered, do you think Hall and Erwin would have done a heat to head to settle the issue?
      When I look at it this way, I’m almost tempted to change my vote to the “win silver” side.

    • #29661
      N Dynamite
      Member

      @99 Red wrote:

      Well, here is another take on the same question. You finish the race, whip your head around, see the 1 next to your lane, but then you see the 1 next to somebody else’s lane. If you have a gut reaction to have a swim off to take care of the tie, then I think your gut is chosing to win a silver instead of tying for a gold. If it would have mattered, do you think Hall and Erwin would have done a heat to head to settle the issue?
      When I look at it this way, I’m almost tempted to change my vote to the “win silver” side.

      Are you kidding? If that’s truly your thought, and I believe that most competitors at that level would think that way, it’s because you want the gold to yourself. You’re not even considering the fact that you might end up with silver. Do you really believe that if there was a swim off the guy who loses would say “thank goodness I’m not taking home an Olympic gold medal like that guy! Who would want to share the notoriety and historical title of being Olympic Champion when I can have this fastest loser medal all to myself.”

    • #29662
      99 Red
      Member

      If you end up in a tie and you want to break that tie, then you are chosing to throw away your shared gold for either a solo silver or a solo gold. If you want there to be a swim off instead of a tie, of course you want to win, but you also want a solo silver more than a shared gold. If you wanted the shared gold more, then you would be ok with your tie.

    • #29663
      Chris Knight
      Member

      One thing’s for sure: It would be infinitely better to tie with a teammate, a la Hall/ERvin, than to tie with some other person and have to hear their national anthem (in addition to yours).

    • #29664
      The Treat
      Member

      @lane 6er wrote:

      I heard this question from a friend while discussing the world record/gold medal topic. Thought some of you might have some opinions. I personally would rather win silver and not have to share it than share the gold and not have really ‘won’ anything.

      that might be the stupidest thing ive ever heard.

    • #29665

      First, I am with Treat, this is kind of stupid.

      Second, winning Silver is not a loser medal. Everyone wants gold, but I would take a Silver or Bronze, actually I would take a dead last just to compete at the Olympics. As one USA women’s soccer team member said at the 2004 Olympics (even thought they were favored to win the gold), “we are proud of our silver medal, we worked our buts off for it.” Or as Michael Phelps said when asked about trying to break the record for most Golds in one Olympics “I just want one, I don’t have one yet.”

      Lane 6er, if tie for Gold, you earned the gold. Nothing less. There is a lot of honor and pride in doing that. I think that anyone who would rather have the silver medal over a tie for gold is missing the bigger picture. This is a race, with one opportunity in the finals. It is not a football game of baseball game. Just a heads up race. When my 200 free relay team tied for the state title my Junior year, I was more then thrilled. It does not happen often (although two other teams tied in the same event the year before). My reaction was a little disappointment that we did not win, but I also understand how close we were to second. If I missed my turn or took an extra stoke I would have been extremely disappointed that I let my relay members down. I take pride in that medal.
      I would also take Pride in Olympic gold, even if I tied with eight others for it.

    • #29666
      swim5599
      Member

      I think it is pretty cool to tie for an olympic gold medal, yeah I know we are all competitive and everything, but when you look back on it that would pretty awesome to know you tied for something that great

    • #29667
      N Dynamite
      Member

      @Its all an ACT wrote:

      Second, winning Silver is not a loser medal. Everyone wants gold, but I would take a Silver or Bronze, actually I would take a dead last just to compete at the Olympics.

      Sorry – I was a little over the top with the “loser”comment, but I still say no one would want silver if they had gold in their hands. With that said, I agree with both Treat (this is a stupid question) and ACT (I would be happy with an Olympics deck pass)

    • #29668
      Chris Knight
      Member

      I’d be happy with a ticket. Hopefully by 2012 I’ll be able to afford them, plus a week in London.

    • #29669

      The only thing I could add would be to relate two reactions I saw to both situations in the past. Amanda Beard, after tying Hui Qi for the world record in the 200 Breast in Barcelona in 2003, wasn’t incredibly excited about being the co-world record holder in the interview afterwards. Something to the effect of, “well, the record’s not really mine until I go faster, so that’s what I’ll try to do next.” Kristy Kowal was ECSTATIC after winning silver in Sydney 2000 to Agnes Kovacs in the same event. Even though she led for most of the race and fell short in the stretch, she was overjoyed to have swum an American record and win a medal.

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