Greg Pokorski: All around stud or a coach’s mindgame pawn?

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    • #12250
      Kari Byron
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      Well with Conference lineups being due soon, I’m having trouble fitting Pokorski from GAC into mine. I can’t figure out what he’ll swim!! From what I can tell he could be in any of the following events: 500 free, 1000 free, 1650 free, 200 back, 200 IM, 400 IM, or maybe even a surpise event I didn’t even know he could do.

      Can anyone help me out with some times for these events? Even better, can anyone give me their best guesses as to what he’ll swim? Looking at past year’s results I’m getting an idea, but I bet there’s people on this forum who know him and his abilities. Help, please!

    • #34309

      @Kari Byron wrote:

      500 free, 1000 free, 1650 free, 200 back, 200 IM, 400 IM, or maybe even a surpise event I didn’t even know he could do.

      There is one race that is easy to rule out, that is the 1000, since it is not an event for Conference or nationals. I would take out the 200 back, I just done’t see him swimming that, I think he will finish higher in the 1650. He will do the 400IM and the 1650. The only tricky one is possibly the first day. Gustavus has a Lot of Depth in the 500, with Hanson, Stewart, and Davis Possibly going 1-2-3, then Cuevas could swim that also, putting him in the top 8. So they could switch Pokorksi into the 200 IM because there is not as much depth there, but they could do the same with Cuevas, I think either of them would be top 8 in the 500 or 200IM. But my feeling is Pokorski goes the 500 free. Either that or he wants to show how his “Guns” and swims the 50, 100 free, and 100 back, for no other reason then he wants to show off his awesome all-around swimming studness.

    • #34310

      I actually dont know if I would rule out the 200 back. Olaf has a lot of guys in the top 8 this year. As of right now, GAC only has Waylander up there. If Pokorski swims the 200 back, he will break up the Oles and GAC will have a higher net gain vs Olaf.
      For example, if the Oles were placing 1-2-4-5 without Pokorski swimming (a quick guess on my part), and Pokorski can pick up that 4 place spot by swimming, the Oles would not be finishing 1-2-5-6. The gusties get the points for a 4 place finish while knocking the Oles from a 4 place finish to a 6 place. This would be higher net gain then Pokorski finishing behind the Oles in the 500 free or the 200 IM or whatever else.

    • #34311

      Speaking of conference rosters, do you guys have any idea of who makes it for GAC and/or Olaf? I’m assuming they are the two teams who’d have to cut some swimmers who would score some points.

      The conference roster will be the hardest decision that assistant to the assistant coach Gary White, assistant to the head coach Andy Hagen, and head coach Jon Carlson have to make… that and what to order at Big Tens before the meet.

      I’m sure the conference decision will be tough for assistant to the co-head coach Bob Hauck, and co-head coach Dave Hauck as well.

    • #34312

      This is just symantics, Chappel Partner, but I believe Gary White’s title is

      Assistant to the Assistant to the Head Coach, Associate to the Assistant to Distance Swimming Coach

      @Chapel Partner wrote:

      Speaking of conference rosters, do you guys have any idea of who makes it for GAC and/or Olaf? I’m assuming they are the two teams who’d have to cut some swimmers who would score some points.

      The conference roster will be the hardest decision that assistant to the assistant coach Gary White, assistant to the head coach Andy Hagen, and head coach Jon Carlson have to make… that and what to order at Big Tens before the meet.

      I’m sure the conference decision will be tough for assistant to the co-head coach Bob Hauck, and co-head coach Dave Hauck as well.

    • #34313
      Kari Byron
      Member

      @Chapel Partner wrote:

      Speaking of conference rosters, do you guys have any idea of who makes it for GAC and/or Olaf?

      Men, women, or both?

    • #34314

      Guys. No offense ladies, some of my best friends are women. My sister is a girl.

    • #34315

      Does Andrew Michelson make it for GAC? I’m expecting big things out of him for my fantasy team. Outside shot at top 8 in the 200 fly and maybe even the mile.

      This is where assistant to the assistant to the head coach Gary White makes his money (if they actually pay him). Turning a guy like Michelson into a conference stud.

      Updated top 25…
      http://www.miac-online.org/toptimesmen20207.htm

    • #34316

      I personally think it is very iffy that Andrew Michelson make the roster. He is a great swimmer who would likely place high in an event or two, but because GAC is so deep, picking those last couple spots must be murder. I really do not even Carlson having to make that decision.
      As for Michelson, I just dont see him making the roster because he isnt deep enough in three events. For a swimmer to make it on GAC’s roster, they need to be able to score points in all three events. Another good swimmer who probably wont make it because of that is Luke Weyandt. Luke has a good chance of placing high in both the breaststrokes (he was top eight last year in one of them I believe), but he definetly does not have a thrid event. Which I think is really too bad, it is tough to see good swimmers not be able make the conference roster.

    • #34317
      Kari Byron
      Member

      Here’s who I see on the GAC roster as of right now, barring the taper meet for the rest of the team which I believe is tomorrow against Stevens Point:

      Amundson
      Hanson
      Hagemeyer
      Stewart
      Cuevas
      Pearson
      Pokorski
      Waylander
      Davis
      Mikkelson
      Ziegler
      Wakefield
      De Leeuw
      3 Divers

      Top contenders for the remaining 4 spots:

      Horn
      Winter
      Auyeung
      Elenkiwich
      Michelson
      Enevoldson
      Weyandt
      Paquin

      Thank god I’m not in Carlson’s shoes and have to pick 4 of those guys. I don’t know if I could do it.

    • #34318

      I think I might have to throw DeLeeuw down into the contender position and move Winter onto the roster. Winter’s breaststroke this year is quick and he still has his frees to fall back on. Also, a couple years ago, he put together a pretty good 100 fly. I just think that his three events are stronger then DeLeeuw’s three events, and will score more points.

      Another question, does GAC even have three divers?

      I have been doing some looking around, and I can’t tell. If GAC isn’t able to field three divers, or their divers do very poorly, it just might cost them the conference title. Their best diver from last year (who was a freshman) isn’t on their roster this year (somehow I had failed to notice this before), causing me to reconsider by bold statement of GAC winning.

    • #34319
      Kari Byron
      Member

      @backstroker02 wrote:

      I think I might have to throw DeLeeuw down into the contender position and move Winter onto the roster. Winter’s breaststroke this year is quick and he still has his frees to fall back on. Also, a couple years ago, he put together a pretty good 100 fly. I just think that his three events are stronger then DeLeeuw’s three events, and will score more points.

      Ooohh, touche. I would agree that Winter probably has a leg up on De Leeuw right now.

      @backstroker02 wrote:

      Another question, does GAC even have three divers?

      Looking at results from the season I think that they’ll take Andrew Howard, Steve Howard, and Chris Hedberg. However, Hedberg hasn’t dove in a meet since Olaf, which leads me to believe that they’ll take the only other guy who’s listed in diving results, Bill Klein.

      If GAC doesn’t have three divers capable of posting some points, would they be better off just conceding diving and bringing another swimmer? It’s been mentioned in this thread a couple of times how a handful of All-Conference swimmers are all ready sitting off the roster right now. Maybe bringing a guy who can nab up 3, 9 – 16 finishes is their best option?

    • #34320

      That is unbelievable to think that guys who were top 8 last year, or guys that could be top 8 this year, won’t make the roster. That sucks.

      When is the taper meet? Today against Stevens Point? When are conference rosters due?

      If I were assistant to one of the assistants to the head coach, I’d do a time trial the day before rosters are due so as to not affect the final taper as much. You could hype it up Thunderdome style.

      As for the divers, how many divers are there at the meet overall? How did GAC divers score last year? I’m sure GAC will find 3 guys who can fall off the diving board and do just enough to not DQ and score a few points.

    • #34321

      @backstroker02 wrote:

      Another question, does GAC even have three divers?

      I have been doing some looking around, and I can’t tell. If GAC isn’t able to field three divers, or their divers do very poorly, it just might cost them the conference title. Their best diver from last year (who was a freshman) isn’t on their roster this year (somehow I had failed to notice this before), causing me to reconsider by bold statement of GAC winning.

      I’ve been talking with some of the GAC divers and this is one of their weak spots. Hawkinson transferred to the U of M, which hurts them a ton. Hedberg seems to have gone AWOL from the team and Klein does not have a 3meter list. So if their divers go, It’ll be the Howard boys and…someone.

    • #34322

      Its too bad Hassumani graduated last year, I believe a similar situation happened two years ago and he filled in and dove at conferece. He did pretty well as I recall.
      Maybe they can find someone like that again this year.

    • #34323

      @backstroker02 wrote:

      Its too bad Hassumani graduated last year, I believe a similar situation happened two years ago and he filled in and dove at conferece. He did pretty well as I recall.
      Maybe they can find someone like that again this year.

      I rmember seeing that…man for a swimmer he was pretty good. That could happen, but I am pretty sure that they changed the meet to 11 dives, which (a) makes it f*ing long and (b) hard to train in a raw swimmer

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