GAC med’s

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    • #12293
      shootmeup
      Member

      who do you think is swimming in the GAC med. relays

    • #34785

      My sources have been telling me that Josh has been working on his breast stroke. GAC still is not set on a breast stroker so they are looking at everyone.

    • #34786

      Sounds like a plan. Waylander would do fine as the breastroker on the relays. Probably go the same time as Jonah Winter or Dan Mikkelson or whoever.

    • #34787
      Kari Byron
      Member

      I wouldn’t count Josh out. His chances are slim with Amundson swimming 20.8 opens and Hagemeyer swimming 52.5 backs, but he’s not out yet. Let’s not forget that Hagemeyer has only swam two 50 point backs in his life, and I think his next fastest time is right around Waylander’s. Jon could easily put Josh on if he feels that Josh has hit his taper better and Scott doesn’t show potential of going 50 again.

      Right now I’d say Scott’s a 9:1 favorite.

    • #34788

      Can Hagemeyer do Breaststroke? He is big enough he probably would just jump in, do the under water pull out and turn. Them him and Josh could both be on the relay. Problems solved.

    • #34789
      Kari Byron
      Member

      @Its all an ACT wrote:

      Can Hagemeyer do Breaststroke? He is big enough he probably would just jump in, do the under water pull out and turn. Them him and Josh could both be on the relay. Problems solved.

      Hagemeyer can do the breaststroke about as well as….. Uh…… Well something that can’t do some task very well.

      Hagemeyer’s chances of ever swimming breststroke in a competitive meet: 0%

    • #34790

      Is this even a question? When I voted there was only one for Josh, and that is because I hit the wrong button.

      I could see Hagemeyer maybe not swimming one of the Meds so that he can do all the frees, but that would be the only reason.

    • #34791
      Deep Water
      Member

      I think GAC’s best breastroker is Stewart. Any chance of putting Ziegler at fly and Stewart at breast?

    • #34792
      Kari Byron
      Member

      Hagemeyer hasn’t swam a 200 all season, I doubt Carlson would throw him in it at conference. The 200 is probably one of the hardest races in swimming to do successfully, repeatedly. Without having done it all season, I don’t see Hagemeyer in the 200 free.

      Hagemeyer swims the 50 and 100 free, 100 back, back on both Meds and anchors both Free relays.

      As far as the other swimmers on the relays are concerned, Amundson leads the 2 FR and is second on the 4 FR. Stewart leads the 4 FR. Stewart or Zieglar does fly on the Meds and breaststroke is up for grabs. I’d look for Michelson to maybe sneak in and swim it.

    • #34793

      Yeah, my bad, I doubt Hagemeyer does the 800 FR, so I’d guess he does both Meds.

      Michelson swimming on the Meds? Did he make the conference roster? I hope so, he’s on my fantasy team. But I think my chances of swimming the fly for the GAC meds are about as good as his.

      I know this has been said in other threads, but does Sky-Dave make the 800 FR? If he has a sweet 500, I say he does.

    • #34794
      D3SWIMMERDAD
      Member

      Hagemeyer did swim the 200 free unrested on 1/27 against Carleton in 1:47.24. Not sure what that could be with a decent taper.

    • #34795

      You are thinking of the wrong guy Chapel Partner. You are thinking of Andrew Michelson and we are talking about Dan Mikkelson.

    • #34796

      Byron wrote Michelson.

    • #34797
      Kari Byron
      Member

      @Chapel Partner wrote:

      Byron wrote Michelson.

      Byron messed up. My bad.

      @D3SWIMMERDAD wrote:

      Hagemeyer did swim the 200 free unrested on 1/27 against Carleton in 1:47.24. Not sure what that could be with a decent taper.

      A 1:47.24 untapered should put him around a 1:44 high or 1:45 low with a good shave and a taper. But, as I said earlier, without the experience swimming this event, I don’t see him in it at Conference. Neither will he be on the 800 FR. GAC has too many other guys who can bring that one home. My bet is on Hanson, Stewart, Cuevas, and Amundson. Wakefield has a great shot of being on it too.

      @Chapel Partner wrote:

      I know this has been said in other threads, but does Sky-Dave make the 800 FR? If he has a sweet 500, I say he does.

      Absolutely not, but thanks for asking. Skylar is a coaches wet dream for a 2000 FR (4×500), 4000 FR (4×1000), or a 6600 FR (4×1650); but as far as a 200 free goes, he just doesn’t have the ponies to get up and go with the big dogs. Skylar’s top end consists of a 22 something 50 free. Granted he can hold that pace until his grandkids are born, but for a 200 free you need something more.

    • #34798

      Skylar makes the 800 Free relay this year, no problem. He’s already been a 1:47 un-tapered. That’s fast enough. If Skylar only makes B-cuts, he will be put on the relay to bolster GAC’s national line-up. If Skylar makes A cuts, which he should in the 1650, he could get bumped for a Cuevas or Porkowski who may have only made a couple B-cuts.

      GAC has this relay by about 4-8 seconds. Assistant to the head coach, Andy Hagen will want to get as many people to nationals as possible.

      @Kari Byron wrote:

      @Chapel Partner wrote:

      I know this has been said in other threads, but does Sky-Dave make the 800 FR? If he has a sweet 500, I say he does.

      Absolutely not, but thanks for asking. Skylar is a coaches wet dream for a 2000 FR (4×500), 4000 FR (4×1000), or a 6600 FR (4×1650); but as far as a 200 free goes, he just doesn’t have the ponies to get up and go with the big dogs. Skylar’s top end consists of a 22 something 50 free. Granted he can hold that pace until his grandkids are born, but for a 200 free you need something more.

    • #34799
      frizzy
      Member

      uhh… if Davis can hold 22s until his grandkids are born that means he can go 1:32.00 and 44.00, and definitely makes the GAC relays. For the record, I don’t expect to see either of those times from him. Ever.

    • #34800

      @Kari Byron wrote:

      My bet is on Hanson, Stewart, Cuevas, and Amundson.

      I highly doubt Amundson will be on it. Amundson will be on the 200 and 400 frees for sure, and most likely on both meds as well. If he swims the 800 free, then he will have to be taken out of a medley. then hagemeyer will have to swim free, and josh will swim back. but so far the votes say that wont happen.

    • #34801

      Byron, I still think Sky-Dave makes it. As Frizzy pointed out, your top end speed argument makes no sense. This is still a 200. Like I said, if he busts off a nice 500, I think he’s on it for sure (unless like Mac said, they need to get some more guys to nats).

      As for Amundson, I think Assistant to the Head Coach Hagen, and Coach Carlson have to decide if the 800 FR will make it to nats on its own without him on it… and if they can pull off a 2nd in either medley relay without him anchoring.

    • #34802
      Kari Byron
      Member

      Guess we’ll have to wait to see. I still say no.

    • #34803

      @Chapel Partner wrote:

      As for Amundson, I think Assistant to the Head Coach Hagen, and Coach Carlson have to decide if the 800 FR will make it to nats on its own without him on it… and if they can pull off a 2nd in either medley relay without him anchoring.

      Amundson had the 5th fastes time from GAC last year in the 200 and everyone returns with the addition of Davis. Amundson goes the four shorter relays, he will not swim the 800 free relay.

    • #34804

      The 800 FR will be :

      Matt Stewart 1:40
      Billy Cuevas 1:43
      Skylar Davis 1:42
      Ben Hanson 1:40

      This is a top 5 relay at Nats.

    • #34805
      Kari Byron
      Member

      @Mac of the MIAC wrote:

      The 800 FR will be :

      Matt Stewart 1:40
      Billy Cuevas 1:43
      Skylar Davis 1:42
      Ben Hanson 1:40

      This is a top 5 relay at Nats.

      Has Davis ever swam a 200 under 1:45? I did a very quick (<5min) research job and couldn’t find one. If he’s never been under 1:45 in the open, he’s not going a 1:42 on the relay.

      Also, Stewart and Hanson won’t split 1:40. Closer to 1:42 low, 1:41 high if they’re ablaze with rage.

      The 4th spot is still open in my mind.

    • #34806

      If I am not mistaken, but I believe Stewart and Hanson were both 1:41 mid to high’s last year. I think it would be safe to assume the can go 1:41 low, if no in the 1:40 range this year.

    • #34807
      middie07
      Member
      Its all an ACT wrote:
      If I am not mistaken, but I believe Stewart and Hanson were both 1:41 mid to high’s last year. I think it would be safe to assume the can go 1:41 low, if no in the 1:40 range this year.

      Given their times last year, I’d say it’s “safe to assume” that they’re capable of going 1:41 mid to high. And that one could “plausibly assert” that one or both could be in the 1:40 range.

    • #34808
      Deep Water
      Member

      Amundson didn’t swim the 400 med, a move that seems to indicate intentions to put him on the 800 free. Especially since Davis is not swimming that well. Thoughts?

    • #34809
      silentp
      Member

      @Deep Water wrote:

      Amundson didn’t swim the 400 med, a move that seems to indicate intentions to put him on the 800 free. Especially since Davis is not swimming that well. Thoughts?

      I heard he is on it unless something happens to change people’s minds tomorrow. Apparently Hanson is sick and they will need every second they can get to beat Olaf.

    • #34810
      The Treat
      Member

      @Deep Water wrote:

      Especially since Davis is not swimming that well. Thoughts?

      it’s not that he’s swimming poorly, it’s just that everyone on this site built him up to be peter vanderkaay or something, so anything less is a disappointment. why does everyone on this site love him so much?

      also, not that hagarmeyer will swim the 200, but a 1:47 in season doesn’t necessarily mean a 1:44 on taper. that could mean 1:46 on taper, it could mean 1:41. my untapered to tapered spread was about 7-8 seconds in the 200. im pretty big guy (not as big as hagarmeyer, but still pretty big) and we get really broken down in the year. taper can mean some incredible time drops. either way, it’s a moot point, he wont be on that relay. he’ll do two medleys, 200 FR and 400 FR.

    • #34811
      “The wrote:
      it’s not that he’s swimming poorly, it’s just that everyone on this site built him up to be peter vanderkaay or something, so anything less is a disappointment. why does everyone on this site love him so much?

      Finally someone else is thinking what i have been think all year.

    • #34812
      Deep Water
      Member

      Who swims the fly on the 200 med. tonight for GAC, Ziegler or Stewart? I personally think it should be Stewart at breast and Ziegler at fly.

    • #34813

      Not even a question, Ziegler will be the butterfly. His underwater work and sprints are superior to Stewarts. Just look at what he took out the 100 in the 400 med in.
      And with Mikkelson swimming as well as he is in the breaststrokes, I dont see a point of putting Stewart in for the breaststroke.

    • #34814
      Volume
      Member

      Anyone know what the results are for mens 100 BR, mens and womens 100 BK? The live results are not working.

    • #34815

      Sky-Dave still has the mile… I think he is a victim of a catchy nickname and the fact that he’s awesome. Also, he’s on Mac of the MIAC’s regular season championship fantasy team.

      Is Hanson really sick? His 1:41 in the open 200 leads me to believe he’s feeling better.

    • #34816
      SeekUp
      Member

      @Chapel Partner wrote:

      Is Hanson really sick? His 1:41 in the open 200 leads me to believe he’s feeling better.

      I over heard carlson telling another coach that hason had to get two iv’s tuesday cuz he was so sick but he seems to be swimming well.

    • #34817

      Sky-Dave lived up to the hype in the mile. His nickname will live on for nationals.

    • #34818
      The Treat
      Member

      @Chapel Partner wrote:

      Sky-Dave lived up to the hype in the mile. His nickname will live on for nationals.

      anyone have results for the 100 free? the live results site doesnt have it up.

    • #34819
      silentp
      Member

      @The Treat wrote:

      @Chapel Partner wrote:

      Sky-Dave lived up to the hype in the mile. His nickname will live on for nationals.

      anyone have results for the 100 free? the live results site doesnt have it up.

      Not sure if they are up yet so this is too late, but it was a tie for first between Hagemeyer and Amundson at 45.69. The tie was pretty much the best way for them to end it, just great swims. Koch was 46-something, i’m thinking .3, but i don’t want to give him a slower time than he actually went.

    • #34820
      Kari Byron
      Member

      Koch was 46.25 in finals. Good swim for him. Look for big things in Houston.

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