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September 24, 2007 at 3:02 am #12657
Kari Byron
MemberGAC at MSU-Mankato
Gusties win in a landslide, provided they don’t swim off events to keep the meet interesting. I would imagine Carlson will through everyone in their strong events, to get to some early season times. However, it isn’t impossible that they will swim off events to keep the stars from shining (Gotta love coaches mind games). It will be interesting to see who gets the first shot at the now wide open relays. GAC will be looking for 2 new sprinters to replace Amundson and Hagemeyer on the Free relays, and a backstroker and anchor to take over on the Medleys.
UST at Carleton
Carleton takes this one. I would expect to see Marschall in his usual form, fast, as well as some good times from Plotz. Hardy should be ready for a good Senior year as well.
Hamline Quad (Augsburg, Macalester, St. Mary’s)
Toss a 4-sided coin. Tapia will most likely be the lone star in this meet, save for the surprise freshman.
St. Olaf Quad (St. Johns, Carleton, Macalester)
Ole domination. Bentley should be geared to have another good season, Koch is now king of the sprints, and let’s not forget about Westby. Question is, is he done getting better or will Westby continue to get better. Should be interesting to see what he goes at the season opener. For the Johnnies it should be interesting to see where Chapman is at. Also, looks like there’s another Winden on the Johnnie roster. We’ll have to see if he can produce in true STA form.
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September 24, 2007 at 6:28 pm #38649
Chapel Partner
MemberI would think coach Carlson likes to beat Kato to show he has a better program without scholarships and no oversized US flag on the wall of the pool.
UST is the favorite in my mind at Carleton. Especially if they swim the shorter stroke events. Carleton lost Friedlander-Holm, and UST should win the relays. This is the cream cheese meet or something, isn’t it?
UST is my early sleeper to place 3rd at conference.I think Hameline wins the quad. I’m interested to see how John Fox and the fictitious Mac freshman do.
Olaf wins their quad… then doesn’t go out and party afterwards.
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September 25, 2007 at 3:10 am #38650
caveman12
Member@Chapel Partner wrote:
UST is the favorite in my mind at Carleton. Especially if they swim the shorter stroke events. Carleton lost Friedlander-Holm, and UST should win the relays. This is the cream cheese meet or something, isn’t it?
UST is my early sleeper to place 3rd at conference.I could see this happening. UST is going to have a solid team this year. I also heard from someone (dont know if it’s been talked about in other threads) that Nick Frost, a sub-minute breastroker and pretty darn good flyer, has transfered there from UWGB.
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September 25, 2007 at 3:20 am #38651
Kari Byron
Member@Chapel Partner wrote:
I would think coach Carlson likes to beat Kato to show he has a better program without scholarships and no oversized US flag on the wall of the pool.
Of course, what coach doesn’t want to win? The question is whether or not the athletes will be in their top events.
@Chapel Partner wrote:
UST is my early sleeper to place 3rd at conference.
Seriously? I’d say that GAC and STO have the top two wrapped up, with the ever improving SJU squad battling Carleton for third and fourth, respectively. You really think the Tommies can pull off any better than fifth? They took sixth to Hamline last year for crying out loud. Unless they got a freshman class that nobody knows about, and given the status of their current pool I highly doubt it, they don’t do any better than fifth this year.
@Chapel Partner wrote:
I’m interested to see how John Fox and the fictitious Mac freshman do.
That makes two of us. Provided he trained over the summer, Fox should have another good year. Only one person ahead of him graduated (Wareham from STO), so he’ll have his work cut out for him should he want to place top 8 again.
@Chapel Partner wrote:
Olaf wins their quad… then doesn’t go out and party afterwards.
Sad, but true. Those silly Oles and their inability to celebrate properly. I am by no means condoning the use/abuse of alcohol by collegiate athletes in celebratory manners; but would it kill ’em to have fun just one time?
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September 25, 2007 at 3:25 am #38652
Kari Byron
Member@caveman12 wrote:
UST is going to have a solid team this year.
Who do they have besides Hardy and mystery frosh that can contend with the likes of Carleton and Saint John’s?
Nobody. That’s who. Hamline and St. Thomas fight for fifth like last year.
@caveman12 wrote:
I also heard from someone (dont know if it’s been talked about in other threads) that Nick Frost, a sub-minute breastroker and pretty darn good flyer, has transfered there from UWGB.
Prove it.
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September 25, 2007 at 4:37 am #38653
caveman12
Member@Kari Byron wrote:
@caveman12 wrote:
UST is going to have a solid team this year.
Who do they have besides Hardy and mystery frosh that can contend with the likes of Carleton and Saint John’s?
Nobody. That’s who. Hamline and St. Thomas fight for fifth like last year.
@caveman12 wrote:
I also heard from someone (dont know if it’s been talked about in other threads) that Nick Frost, a sub-minute breastroker and pretty darn good flyer, has transfered there from UWGB.
Prove it.
is talking to the kid personally enough proof? cause i have
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September 25, 2007 at 2:00 pm #38654
silentp
Member@caveman12 wrote:
@Kari Byron wrote:
@caveman12 wrote:
UST is going to have a solid team this year.
Who do they have besides Hardy and mystery frosh that can contend with the likes of Carleton and Saint John’s?
Nobody. That’s who. Hamline and St. Thomas fight for fifth like last year.
@caveman12 wrote:
I also heard from someone (dont know if it’s been talked about in other threads) that Nick Frost, a sub-minute breastroker and pretty darn good flyer, has transfered there from UWGB.
Prove it.
is talking to the kid personally enough proof? cause i have
I can second that for confirmation if it helps, although I doubt it does.
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September 25, 2007 at 3:09 pm #38655
Mac of the MIAC
Member@Chapel Partner wrote:
Olaf wins their quad… then doesn’t go out and party afterwards.
Quote of the week.
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September 25, 2007 at 3:19 pm #38656
Mac of the MIAC
MemberExcellent find silent-p on Nick Frost. He is enrolled at UST and will likely be a first rounder. Are you sure you don’t want to be in our fantasy league? Due to a conflict, we have a 12th team open for either you or Max Harper. Having a moderator on our league that is not 5 meter mark would certainly increase our already heavy street cred.
SJU lost a ton of great swimmers. They will not beat Hamline or UST. I agree with Chapel Partner, UST moves up to at least 4th. In other UST news, their old pool will continue to leak 50 gallons of water per day, as the new athletics center is queued behind a student center in order of priority. The student center will be complete in about 5 years, so a new pool is at least 7 years out.
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September 25, 2007 at 3:55 pm #38657
lirpa
MemberSJU’s roster is up, and they got some pretty good sprinters, not sure what else. I would still consider them favorites for 3rd until we see Carleton and UST rosters.
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September 25, 2007 at 4:16 pm #38658
silentp
Member@lirpa wrote:
SJU’s roster is up, and they got some pretty good sprinters, not sure what else. I would still consider them favorites for 3rd until we see Carleton and UST rosters.
They should be fine, they got a lot of depth in this class. I couldn’t find like 8 of the guys, but saw a couple solid guys
47.6/54 back/1:00 breast
21.8 50, but 49 in the 100some depth guys
55 backstroker
2:04 IMerAdd on those I couldn’t find and some improvements by the slower guys and they should do alright.
Most importantly with this class, they have a guy who’s last name is Beer. I really don’t think that can be overlooked and he has become my favorite MIAC swimmer.
Also Mac, I wish i could but I cannot this year, maybe if someone drops next year.
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September 25, 2007 at 10:37 pm #38659
Chapel Partner
MemberSJU and Carleton are always 3-4. So it wouldn’t be a sleeper to pick one of them 3rd. UST could surprise people I think. Especially if the sub minute-breast stroker rumors are true. Even without him I’d take the moneyline on UST at +180 for their duel with Carleton.
As for conference, in order to finish 3rd they’ll need to make up about 200-220 points. Which is tough, but they return almost everyone… while Carleton loses their 2nd best swimmer, and SJU loses 3 of their top 4 sprinters.
I think UST moves into 3rd for the sprint relays, as well as possibly 3rd in the medleys.
St. Thomas always seems to get killed in distance and in depth. That is probably due to the pool only being 5 lanes and smelling like urine… not to mention their work-outs are usually not as intense as other schools. But they have had top sprinters and stroke event swimmers in the past.
Plus Hodgson has a sweet mustache/beard… are they the favorite to get 3rd? No. But I think they have a shot.
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