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    • #12156
      Swim6121
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      Can anyone figure out the Female Swimmer of the Meet Award for the ECAC’s ???

      Ava Kiss received the award…
      Total Points: 73
      1 Meet Record
      1 NCAA A Time
      2 NCAA B Times
      1 – Non-NCAA Time

      Michelle Coombs
      Total Points: 80
      3 Meet Records
      4 NCAA B Times

      Coombs was undefeated! NCAA times each swim and 3 Meet records!! AND in the head-to-head with Ava Kiss in the 200 Free – Wins!!

      ANY CLUE?

    • #32966
      N Dynamite
      Member

      Not that it matters much, but I’m guessing:
      1. Kiss’s 56.92 fly on the 400 MR that basically single handedly got her team a 2nd place finish may have had something to do with it (2 seconds faster than any other fly leg, by the way).

      2. Although Kiss lost to Coombs in the 200, Kiss went a 1:54.92 to anchor the 800 free relay – she nearly made up a 5 second differential, losing by .20 to get 3rd. Coombs led off with a 1:56.97. Coombs’ team got beat by Kiss (down by 3 seconds, won by 7)

      3. A 52.43 anchor on the 400 FR that moved her team up from 5th to 2nd – the team that finished 3rd was nearly 3 seconds ahead of her when she hit the water. She won that one by .07.

      The meet ended with that last one. She was so much faster than everyone else in the water and made up so much ground that she made a huge impact. On paper Coombs is impressive. In the races Kiss was amazing.

      Just a guess.

    • #32967
      Duck
      Member

      My vote goes to Ava Kiss. I have a long and wrangling history with Mrs. Coombs and could never bring myself to vote for her.

      As your non-so-biased post affirms, Michelle’s convictions have been getting a lot of undeserved attention recently. As a preliminary, let it be known I want nothing more than to feed the starving, house the homeless, cure the sick, and still find wonder and awe in the sunrise and the moonlight. It probably sounds like I’m being destructive, but when Michelle says that she is forward-looking, open-minded, and creative, that’s just a load of spucatum tauri. In her intimates’ rush to join the crowd, they failed to observe that by allowing Michelle to transform the swimming world into a viperine war machine, we are allowing her to play puppet master. The biggest difference between me and Michelle is that Michelle wants to leave a large portion of this forum dislocated and disillusioned. I, on the other hand, want to deal with her appropriately.

      Michelle has always promoted the trendiest causes, the causes that all of the important people promote. Why? That’s easy. Michelle has gone around the bend with her paranoia. And that’s why I’m writing this letter; this is my manifesto, if you will, on how to open other swimmers’ and students’ eyes, minds, hearts, and souls to the world around them. There’s no way I can do that alone, and there’s no way I can do it without first stating that by brainwashing her hirelings with clericalism, she makes them easy to lead, easy to program, and easy to enslave. She supports a wide variety of Ponzi schemes. Some are beer-guzzling; others are neurotic. A few openly support pharisaism.

      Michelle fervently believes that she can change her cold-blooded ways. This shows that she is not merely mistaken about one little fact among millions of facts but that most people want to be nice; they want to be polite; they don’t want to give offense. And because of this inherent politeness, they step aside and let Michelle interfere with a person’s work performance, bodily security, physical movement, and privacy rights. Rather than persuade you myself that she is trying to deflect attention from her perfidious intimations, I decided to gather input from various independent observers: coaches, teachers, farmers, shopkeepers, doctors, and so forth. I’ve tried to get balanced and reasonably accurate views about her callous sound bites. For instance, a policeman I interviewed pointed out how there’s something fishy about Michelle’s memoirs. I think she’s up to something, something uncompanionable and perhaps even catty. I feel that it can be safely said that Michelle has announced a number of blathering, anal-retentive ideas on how to run — or is that ruin? — everyone’s life. Even though she presents a public face that avoids overt negativism, interdenominationalism is the last refuge of the delirious. Sad, but true. And it’ll only get worse if she finds a way to put the gods of heaven into the corner as obsolete and outmoded and, in their stead, burn incense to the idol Mammon. Lastly, for those who read this letter, I doubtlessly hope you take it to heart and pass this message on to others.

    • #32968
      Swim6121
      Member

      @Duck wrote:

      My vote goes to Ava Kiss. I have a long and wrangling history with Mrs. Coombs and could never bring myself to vote for her.

      What pray tell could that possibly be!?!!???

    • #32969
      N Dynamite
      Member

      @Swim6121 wrote:

      @Duck wrote:

      My vote goes to Ava Kiss. I have a long and wrangling history with Mrs. Coombs and could never bring myself to vote for her.

      What pray tell could that possibly be!?!!???

      Like everyone else who reads these forums you probably either stopped reading half way through the first sentence of his second paragraph or didn’t have a thesaurus handy – he explained himself the rest of the way. I’m not going to bother deciphering – I stopped reading when I realized it was more than a sentence long and had nothing to do with swimming.

    • #32970
      Swim6121
      Member

      @N Dynamite wrote:

      Not that it matters much, but I’m guessing:
      On paper Coombs is impressive. In the races Kiss was amazing.

      Watching the meet, the 100 Fly was very good no doubt. Kiss has an awsome fly..

      But with the 800 Relay it shows something very interesting…

      Kiss seed was greater than 1 second faster the Coombs… for the 200 Freestyle. The relay shows Kiss is on and as the anchor, swam well…

      Looking at Coombs, her leadoff was faster than the 200 seed and was still significantly slower that Kiss…. But Coombs was also not pushed and was 3 seconds ahead of the field in the openning leg of the 800 Freestyle Relay.

      But in the water – face to face – Coombs took the race..

      Kiss dropped 1.5 seconds from her 200 Seed… Coombs dropped 3.1 seconds and that was AFTER competing in the previous two events!

      200 Free Relay – 100 Back – 200 Free (Tough combination!)

    • #32971
      N Dynamite
      Member

      All good points, but in my mind, it’s not what the lead off does – it’s what the anchor does that people remember. Kiss was a beneficiary of swimming the right leg and swimming it well. I wasn’t there, so I’m going by what’s on paper. But I would venture to say that anyone who was there watching is probably still talking about how Kiss brought back the 800 and 400 free relays.

      Are you dating Coombs or something? Why is this bothering you so much?

    • #32972
      Duck
      Member

      Are you dating Coombs or something? Why is this bothering you so much?


      Kenneth Walter & Michelle Coombs

      http://hometown.aol.com/brusedknee/classmatemarriages.html

      You have just opened up the proverbial can of worms. I have no more to say on this subject.

    • #32973
      Swim6121
      Member

      @N Dynamite wrote:

      Are you dating Coombs or something? Why is this bothering you so much?

      No… I was at the meet and was impressed by Coombs and thought it was unusual….

    • #32974
      Swim6121
      Member

      @Duck wrote:

      You have just opened up the proverbial can of worms. I have no more to say on this subject.

      Just to let you know… this picture is not the Michelle Coombs at the ECAC’s

    • #32975
      Swmr46
      Member

      I was at ECAC and I was impressed by a lot of swims by both sides.

      I think female swimmer of the meet award shouldn’t take away from the great times that both Ava and Michelle swam. You can make a great case for both who deserves female swimmers of the meet. But in the end it the coaches who vote that determine swimmers of the meet not how many points one swimmer scores. I don’t know why ECAC was keeping points individually because they certainly didn’t award the swimmer of the meet to the top point scorers on the male or female side.

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