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    • #12198

      With the MIAC championships a month away, who are going to be on the relays for GAC and Olaf? I’ll take a stab at GAC.

      GAC 200 Med
      Hagameyer
      Jonah Winter
      Matt Stewart
      Brian Amundson

      GAC 400 Med
      Hagameyer
      Jonah Winter
      Matt Stewart
      Brian Amundson

      GAC 200 Free
      Hagameyer
      Amundson
      Clement Auyeung
      Tyler Wakefield

      GAC 400 Free
      Hagameyer
      Amundson
      Matt Stewart
      Ben Hanson

      GAC 800 Free
      Ben Hanson
      Skylar Davis
      Matt Stewart
      Billy Cuevas

    • #33597
      Look Up
      Member

      I’ll take a stab at the Oles:

      200 Medley:
      Tom Kukla
      Ben Wareham
      Nelson Westby
      Jake Koch

      400 Medley:
      Tom Kukla
      Ben Wareham
      Nelson Westby
      Jake Koch

      200 Free:
      Nelson Westby
      CJ Wagner
      Brock Edwards
      Jake Koch

      400 Free:
      Nelson Westby
      CJ Wagner
      Brock Edwards
      Jake Koch

      800 Free:
      Mike Jessop
      CJ Wagner
      Adam Thomas
      Joe Anderson

    • #33598

      Most of these are pretty clear cut, maybe with one or two changes, not much of a debat. How about the other teams in the conference. Try Hamline, Carelton, Macalster. I think it is hard to determine what they will do.

    • #33599
      silentp
      Member

      @Mac of the MIAC wrote:

      GAC 800 Free
      Ben Hanson
      Skylar Davis
      Matt Stewart
      Billy Cuevas

      @Look Up wrote:

      800 Free:
      Mike Jessop
      CJ Wagner
      Adam Thomas
      Joe Anderson

      Since this is probably the only relay that will be even close (medlies go to olaf by far, shorter frees to gac by far), i thought i’d look at these 2, and from the lineups listed here, i don’t see Olaf keeping pace with GAC. Anyone else feel that way? Westby was on this relay last year, which helped keep it close.

      Also, Carlson seems to put swimmers in spots to get more guys on his NCAA team, so he may do that again.

    • #33600

      CJ Wagner will not swim 3 relays. I’d say Keagan Recher replaces him in the 4×50 and Joe Anderson in the 4×100.

      200 Free
      Nelson Westby
      Keagan Recher
      Brock Edwards
      Jake Koch

      400 Free
      Nelson Westby
      Joe Anderson
      Brock Edwards
      Jake Koch

      @Look Up wrote:

      I’ll take a stab at the Oles:

      200 Medley:
      Tom Kukla
      Ben Wareham
      Nelson Westby
      Jake Koch

      400 Medley:
      Tom Kukla
      Ben Wareham
      Nelson Westby
      Jake Koch

      200 Free:
      Nelson Westby
      CJ Wagner
      Brock Edwards
      Jake Koch

      400 Free:
      Nelson Westby
      CJ Wagner
      Brock Edwards
      Jake Koch

      800 Free:
      Mike Jessop
      CJ Wagner
      Adam Thomas
      Joe Anderson

    • #33601

      Joe Anderson can beat Billy Cuevas and that’s about it. GAC dominates this relay from start to finish.

      @silentp wrote:

      @Mac of the MIAC wrote:

      GAC 800 Free
      Ben Hanson
      Skylar Davis
      Matt Stewart
      Billy Cuevas

      @Look Up wrote:

      800 Free:
      Mike Jessop
      CJ Wagner
      Adam Thomas
      Joe Anderson

      Since this is probably the only relay that will be even close (medlies go to olaf by far, shorter frees to gac by far), i thought i’d look at these 2, and from the lineups listed here, i don’t see Olaf keeping pace with GAC. Anyone else feel that way? Westby was on this relay last year, which helped keep it close.

      Also, Carlson seems to put swimmers in spots to get more guys on his NCAA team, so he may do that again.

    • #33602
      silentp
      Member

      @Mac of the MIAC wrote:

      Joe Anderson can beat Billy Cuevas and that’s about it. GAC dominates this relay from start to finish.

      Actually, last year Cuevas was 1:43.2, compared to Anderson’s 1:43.8. In the relay, Cuevas split 1:42.6.

    • #33603
      Look Up
      Member

      @Mac of the MIAC wrote:

      CJ Wagner will not swim 3 relays. I’d say Keagan Recher replaces him in the 4×50 and Joe Anderson in the 4×100.

      200 Free
      Nelson Westby
      Keagan Recher
      Brock Edwards
      Jake Koch

      400 Free
      Nelson Westby
      Joe Anderson
      Brock Edwards
      Jake Koch

      I’ll give you that Wagner might not swim all three, but I’d have to be pretty sure that he’ll swim at least two. He has some of the better freestyle times on the Ole squad this year.

      Recher has been swimming a lot of backstroke this year and not much of the sprint freestyle. So, I can see Anderson swimming in Wagner’s place, but not really Recher.

      Even so, I see GAC taking all three freestyle relays without too much sweat, and Olaf keeping a strong hold on second in the 800. But it seems to me Olaf will need to ensure it doesn’t slip into third in either of the shorter freestyles, so they’ll be putting their studs their, since they have plenty of good 200 swimmers to ensure second in the 800. That is assuming the Hauck’s don’t try for an upset in the 800 (The only ones the Oles might get) and put their studs there.

    • #33604
      silentp
      Member

      Why wouldn’t Olaf stack the 800 FR rather than the 400 FR, did i miss something? They went 6:49 at NCAAs and don’t graduate a single person from the relay. I would think they will 100% sure stack it and take a chance at beating GAC in it. It’s not like they’d beat them in the 400 FR no matter who they put on (GAC goes sub 3:03 this year, by the way).

    • #33605
      Vincent Vega
      Member

      I agree that Olaf needs to go after GAC in the 800 FR. It will be a close meet and that’s an event they have a chance to steal. (If GAC overlooks them)
      In the 400 FR who do you feel will be the foursome that puts up this monster time of under 3:03?[/url]

    • #33606
      Kari Byron
      Member

      @Vincent Vega wrote:

      In the 400 FR who do you feel will be the foursome that puts up this monster time of under 3:03?


      Stewart 46.5
      Wakefield 46.5
      Amundson 45.0
      Hagemeyer 45.0
      3:03
    • #33607
      silentp
      Member

      I look at this way for a sub-3:03

      They went 3:03.7 last year, returning everyone. I feel Hanson will be on the relay, since he split 46-high at Carthage, a meet he never swims well at, meaning he should be 46-low come MIACs. That gives them half a second. The other quarter of a second should come from either Stewart of Amundson, or heck, both of them. They are swimming much faster than last year and i have little doubt on their ability to drop from their times last year. It should be fun to see.

    • #33608

      Who do you think will swim breast on the Gustavus meds?

    • #33609
      silentp
      Member

      @Mac of the MIAC wrote:

      Who do you think will swim breast on the Gustavus meds?

      Whether or not this is directed at me, i’ll take a stab at it. To be honest, i don’t know. A big reason i don’t know is because I am not at practice with them. The 400 MR is most often decided based on how swimmers are doing in practice because none of the events on the first day really show a coach how swimmers are swimming. I think if a swimmer has a horrible swim or a great swim, it could hurt or help, but it really doesn’t mean much.

      That being said, GAC isn’t in position to win either of these relays, and 3rd place is probably not going to happen, so i’ll bet they give a guy a shot.

      400 MR
      Ross Elenkiwich

      200 MR
      Jonah Winter

    • #33610
      iknowall
      Member

      Where are those stud freshmen breastrokers that Gustavus picked up? I haven’t seen them around.

    • #33611
      CRUNCHYSOCK
      Member

      I’ve heard that Timmer should arrive right after J-Term. All his credits transferred, and he just needed to complete Calculus I this January to be eligible. He hasn’t been able to practice with the team, but he’s been swimming on his own. As long as he doesn’t hit any snags with the NCAA, eligibility wise, his first meet should be the MN Challenge, and then Conference. He hasn’t trained enough to taper very well, but when you start from 55.0 in the 100BR, you don’t need to taper too far…

    • #33612

      um, no.

    • #33613

      I just picked up Mitch Stepleton in my fantasy swimming supplemental draft. I figure he’ll be on most of the MAC relays at conference.

      It was between him and Tom Walsh. I feel I made the right choice.

      Mitch Stepleton is the new Jared Rudolph!

      It will be interesting to see how Hameline, MAC, and St. Mary’s fare in the relays. Can they overtake St. Thomas, SJU, or Carleton in any?

    • #33614
      lirpa
      Member

      Mac and St Mary’s seem a little thin to be a threat in the relays.

      Hamline and Carleton have some talented guys, Carleton looks pretty good in the medleys, not sure how Hamline will put their relays together, but might fight for fourth in one or two.

      St Thomas Sprint relays look strong, with Hardy giving some star power.

      I’m interested in St Johns. Can they threaten Gustavus for 2nd in those medleys? Novotny swam some fast breast this weekend and was ahead of the GAC guys. They are pretty solid all through: Larson, Novotny/Turtle, Swenson, Chapman/Christiansen. They could be right near 3:30.

    • #33615

      I predict that Hanson will swim the breaststroke leg of the 400 Medley relay and post a 1:00. There is no way that SJU beats GAC on a single relay. SJU will be lucky to finish ahead of Carleton in the 400 Med.

    • #33616

      Any chance Olaf splits Back duties on the 200 and 400 Meds between Kukla and Meyer? Reason being to make sure they get both guys to Nats. Both are at B cuts now, but who knows if they’d both make A cuts.

      Plus, it seems like they go back and forth on who does better at each meet.

      You could have Jared from Subway swim the backstroke leg on the med for Olaf and still make Nat cuts.

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