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    • #12193
      Rece Davis
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      In lieu of the recent collegeswimming.com rankings the boys and I have decided to put together a little dual meet national tournament. Unlike the BCS and powerpoint rankings, the computers are thrown out the window (unless of course you’re reading this) and we’re going to let our experts fight this one out. Much like our BCS debate on sportscenter, I anticipate a handful of disagreements between Coach Corso and the Buckeye playcaller so I will act as the tiebreaking vote.

      Below you will see 27 schools represented. I would much prefer not to get into who is left out but rather who is swimming towards a dual meet national title. The top 10 schools ranked are in the exact order of finish from the 2006 National Championships. The top 5 receive a first round bye. Teams listed in collegeswimming.com’s top 10 in the most recent poll fill out spots 11-16. From that point, 11 at large births were given. Consideration was given to how the teams finished at Nationals last year, collegeswimming.com’s poll and how much ink each team gets on these boards (afterall, we want some conversation here).

      Below are the matchups with their seeds in parenthesis.
      Meet 1: (6)WashU vs. (27)KZoo
      Meet 2: (7) Wheaton IL vs. (26) Carthage
      Meet 3: (8) St. Olaf vs. (25) Springfield
      Meet 4: (9) UWSP vs. (24) NYU
      Meet 5: (10) Tufts vs. (23) Hope
      Meet 6: (11) Wabash vs. (22) Grove City
      Meet 7: (12) Rowan vs. (21) Amherst
      Meet 8: (13) UCSC vs. (20) TCNJ
      Meet 9: (14) DePauw vs. (19) Middlebury
      Meet 10: (15) Carnegie Mellon vs. (18) Wash & Lee
      Meet 11: (16) Olivet vs. (17) GAC

    • #33499
      Rece Davis
      Member

      Yes, the smiley faces are 8’s.

    • #33500
      Lee Corso
      Member

      @Rece Davis wrote:

      Meet 1: (6)WashU vs. (27)KZoo

      This one isn’t even close, Kzoo would get the first relay and a few stroke events, but this one is more lopsided than LSU vs ND in the Sugar Bowl! Wash U, washes the floor with Kzoo. Get that?

      @Rece Davis wrote:

      Meet 2: (7) Wheaton IL vs. (26) Carthage

      Both teams are down, but not out my friend. Wheaton seems to have lost less, but Carthage will always throw down in a dual meet. Give me Wheaton, but not by much.

      @Rece Davis wrote:

      Meet 3: (8) St. Olaf vs. (25) Springfield

      And i thought Kzoo against Wash U was bad, this one might be a sweep, other than those diving events. Olaf is a great dual meet team and would swim their minds out over Springfield.

      @Rece Davis wrote:

      Meet 4: (9) UWSP vs. (24) NYU

      UWSP is a better team and has been for a long time, they’d have a chance to really show up and defend their top 10 finish, but wait just a gosh darn minute, because NYU has the depth and dual meet power to edge out UWSP in my upset special. How do you like that one, sweetheart?

      @Rece Davis wrote:

      Meet 5: (10) Tufts vs. (23) Hope

      We don’t see a lot out of Tufts, but lately they have really come out to surprise us. Hope got some great recruits and has versatility though. This one would be a nailbiter, but unlike Boise State, Hope wouldn’t need the trick plays to pull off the upset. Hope wins.

      @Rece Davis wrote:

      Meet 6: (11) Wabash vs. (22) Grove City

      GCC would come to play against any team in the country because they can sprint like no other. That being said, they lack the versaitlity it takes to win a dual meet. We all know who will score more at the big show, but baby, Wabash and those Little Giants take this one easy.

      @Rece Davis wrote:

      Meet 7: (12) Rowan vs. (21) Amherst

      Rowan is one of those teams that might not win pretty, but they still win. They have more depth than people realize and are certainly a stronger dual meet team than invite squad. Amherst is strong, but won’t have the depth to hang with Rowan.

      @Rece Davis wrote:

      Meet 8: (13) UCSC vs. (20) TCNJ

      Where does this TCNJ team come from? Every year we see these fellas come out of the wood work only to go down in burning flames at NCAAs. They know how to step up at conference meet, but those kids from Cali are back and strong once again, so the Slugs are dancing on in this one.

      @Rece Davis wrote:

      Meet 9: (14) DePauw vs. (19) Middlebury

      DePauw has taken some people by surprise and Middlebury is coming off of a season where they got cut prematurely. They’ll have some rust on them, but still swim quick. It won’t be quick enough to hang with DePauw, but by NCAAs, it might be something different.

      @Rece Davis wrote:

      Meet 10: (15) Carnegie Mellon vs. (18) Wash & Lee

      Talk about my favorite matchup thus far and we’re talking about this one right here. CMU is back with some impressive recruiting and W&L has some legit studs that have popped out fast dual meet times so far. You’ve got a nail biter, but when the waves settle, it’s W7L moving on and CMU getting ready for next season.

      @Rece Davis wrote:

      Meet 11: (16) Olivet vs. (17) GAC

      Well, let me tell you Kirk, Olivet would win the breastrokers and hey, they might pull out a medley relay too. Any other Olivet wins would be major upsets. I mean really, this one should be close, but it wouldn’t be. This might actually be the most lopsided meet of them all. Olivet is good, but they need to stay in the kiddy pool or they’ll drown.

    • #33501

      WashU vs. KZoo:
      WashU was hurt by graduation as much as anyone in the country and Kalamazoo has arguably the two most valuable freshman in the country. What does it all mean? It means that WashU didn’t finish 6th in the country with two people last year. The addition of Kushner and the transfer Bullock are too much for the young Hornets.

      Wheaton vs. Carthage:
      The beauty of this meet is that we’ll get to see it. They swim a tri with U of Chicago (who could might win that meet) later on this year. Carthage has more to prove and any chance they can take a stab at Wheaton they’re going to. Pelka and Schrank are too much. The only clouds after this meet is from the Redskins rain/victory dance.

      Olaf vs. Springfield:
      The boards belong to Springfield. Koch and Burch will showdown but at the end of the day, this is a blowout. St Olaf is too much.

      UWSP vs NYU:
      I like the big guy calling the upset. I think he jumped the gun on an upset. NYU is a balanced and deep team. But wins will take priority in this meet. UWSP has one of the real up and comers in the nation right now with Chase Gross. Ben Gensler could be in the thick of things next March in the 2 breast. You can call your upset but I’ll stick with the Pointers. Our wake, your funeral.

      Tufts vs. Hope:
      I think this is the closest matchup in the first round. At first glance I see each team winning 8 events and splitting relays. But unlike the NYU meet, depth will prevail and this one, the Flying Dutchman sure Hope so. Hope wins.

      Wabash vs. GCC:
      Wabash brings a complete team to the table. They’re not flashy but they get the job done. GCC is the flash in college swimming right now. Timmy Whitbeck and Caleb Courage, good night. But the thing many don’t realize is, they have some role players everyone doubts. Guys like Gilbert, Larsen and Cressman make this a great meet. At the end of the day, the Little Giant balance prevails.

      Rowan vs. Amherst:
      I have to admit Lee, Rowan is one of those schools I don’t know as much about. Amherst is down a little bit but are led by two great seniors and an established coach. As much as it pains me to agree with the old guy, he’s right, a win is a win and Rowan can get it done. Especially with the dominance on the boards.

      UCSC vs. TCNJ:
      UCSC burst onto the scene a little over a month ago. When I look back and reflect on it they had their rest meet before anyone else. If these two tangled in and inseason dual meet the Lions would shred those Slugs to pieces. TCNJ doesn’t send a large group to Nationals every year by accident. In fact, they’ve had the top seed in a relay twice in the past few years. TCNJ pulls this one out.

      DePauw vs. Middlebury:
      Collier vs Alexander in the fly might be the only race we need to see because I think the winner of the 100 fly wins the meet. These teams match up well with each other, both have a very good diver and some diving depth. I give Middlebury the slight edge in a 15 event lineup less the 100 fly. Collier is a senior and is eager to lead his team back onto the radar of the rest of the country after a year in the shadows. Middlebury wins it.

      Carnegie Mellon vs. Washington and Lee
      I can’t believe this is a first round matchup. We’ve been talking about Wash & Lee all season long. You need to keep a close eye on these Tartans. They are young, very young but already they have depth. Their lone senior is an All American and if Dave Krzymenski has anything to say about this meet they’ll head back to Pittsburgh with their heads held high. They should anyway but I’m still taking Ginder and the gang. Washington and Lee is a dangerous team right now.

      Olivet vs. GAC
      This is a really unfortuante draw for Olivet. They are trying to get some recognition here and as far as dual meet teams go, probably deserve their seed. But Gustavus at a 17 seed is an absolute joke. GAC in my opinion could be a 5 seed if not higher. This is one ugly meet. Meisner and the Olivet diving team do what they can to keep this meet close as Gustavus paddles back across the big lake with a victory in hand.

    • #33502
      Rece Davis
      Member

      Well guys I have to say, I’m quite impressed. You agreed on 8 of the 11 meets. Now I’m no expert but as I mentioned before, I am here to settle the argument so we can move on to the round of 16.

      You couldn’t agree on NYU/Wisc Stevens Point, Santa Cruz/New Jersey and DePauw/Middlebury. Let me take care of that for you; I like NYU. I really do. They have the balance and starpower to take care of business against Pointe. The cross country matchup is a great one but only New Jersey comes home with the win. Kyle King and Co are sneaky good. And I have to agree with the Coach on this one, Middlebury is rusty and DePauw is anxious. I’ll take the Tigers in this one and I really don’t think it will be that close.

      So there you have it folks, the first round is behind us. We had some great meets, unbelievable races and now we’re on to the Sweet 16. Let’s take a look at the next rounds matchups:

      (1) Kenyon vs (17) GAC
      (2) Denison vs (18.) W&L
      (3) Emory vs (14) DePauw
      (4) Johns Hopkins vs (20) TCNJ
      (5) Williams vs (12) Rowan
      (6) WashU vs (14) Wabash
      (26) Carthage vs (23) Hope
      (8.) Olaf vs (24) NYU

    • #33503
      Kari Byron
      Member

      @Rece Davis wrote:

      (1) Kenyon vs (17) GAC
      (2) Denison vs (18.) W&L
      (3) Emory vs (14) DePauw
      (4) Johns Hopkins vs (20) TCNJ
      (5) Williams vs (12) Rowan
      (6) WashU vs (14) Wabash
      (26) Carthage vs (23) Hope
      (8.) Olaf vs (24) NYU

      My picks:

      Kenyon
      Denison
      Emory
      JHU
      Williams
      WashU
      Carthage
      Olaf

    • #33504
      The15mMark
      Member

      @Kari Byron wrote:

      @Rece Davis wrote:

      (1) Kenyon vs (17) GAC
      (2) Denison vs (18.) W&L
      (3) Emory vs (14) DePauw
      (4) Johns Hopkins vs (20) TCNJ
      (5) Williams vs (12) Rowan
      (6) WashU vs (14) Wabash
      (26) Carthage vs (23) Hope
      (8.) Olaf vs (24) NYU

      My picks:

      Kenyon
      Denison
      Emory
      JHU
      Williams
      WashU
      Carthage
      Olaf

      I like those picks but I have to say that I like your picture more! WOWSA!!!

      Here are my picks for this round:

      Kenyon
      W&L
      Emory
      JHU
      Williams
      WashU
      Hope
      NYU

    • #33505
      99 Red
      Member

      I’m loving the breakdown by the Meetday crew. Of the top 5 seeds, I can’t see any upsets, inspite of the fact that the teams they will be going against will probably have timed their tapers for this match up. That will make for some close meets, particularly Kenyon GAC and Williams Rowan, but in the end, the top seeds advance. NYU has the potential to suprise Olaf, but I don’t think they will.
      WashU and Wabash is a really good meet. Close sprints, but the edge goes to Leakey, and that is how I see the meet breaking. WashU has to many edges for Wabash to overcome in a normal head to head, but if Wabash really hit their taper for this one they could catch WashU looking ahead to the next round where they will be facing the full size giants of DIII swimming. But I’ll still go with WashU.
      Hope v. Carthage – both of these teams probably tapered to win in the first round, so they are going to be trying to hold on now. Strange things can happen when tapers get extended, especially in the sprints, and I think that favors Hope. Hope also has more depth. Michigan swimming stays in the Tourney, Hope wins.

    • #33506
      swim5599
      Member

      I think Wheaton comes together and beats Carthage in that meet again this year.

      I would also take stevens point over NYU

    • #33507
      trout3
      Member

      I would also take stevens point over NYU

      That’s a meet i’d like to see… Let’s book it…..

    • #33508
      Rece Davis
      Member

      Welcome back swims fans. After a couple days off from a grueling first round of matchups, we are back at it here in Bristol. The big dogs, last years top five teams nationally are anxious to get into things here. Some think the layoff will help the national powers, others think they’re a bit rusty from the layoff, I happen to think it won’t matter much just yet but we will let our so called experts decide who will make the round of eight. Everything thing is the same in this round with a 16 event lineup with just three small changes. Instead of the standard 200 medley and 400 free relay, we will flip flop and go with a 400 medley and a 200 free relay. So Lee, I will let you take it away…

      1) Kenyon vs (17) GAC
      (2) Denison vs (18.) W&L
      (3) Emory vs (14) DePauw
      (4) Johns Hopkins vs (20) TCNJ
      (5) Williams vs (12) Rowan
      (6) WashU vs (14) Wabash
      (26) Carthage vs (23) Hope
      (8.) Olaf vs (24) NYU

    • #33509
      Lee Corso
      Member

      @Rece Davis wrote:

      (1) Kenyon vs (17) GAC

      You’d think this one was in the bag for Kenyon and they could slide on through to that Elite round, but wait just a second, GAC is one tough dual meet team and matches up quite well with Kenyon. The boys in purple are tested but are able to walk with their heads held high to the next round.

      @Rece Davis wrote:

      (2) Denison vs (18.) W&L

      I know the old, slow QB loves these boys from Ohio, but frankly, who doesn’t? They have been beaten down by Kenyon for so many years, that it’s nice to see them win that dual earlier in the year. W&L has made great strides my friends, but they’d need to make leaps to make this one a contest. Denison wins, Go Big Red! Go Big Red!

      @Rece Davis wrote:

      (3) Emory vs (14) DePauw

      I am pretty sure DePauw could win an event, but I won’t be promising anything. They would try really hard, and trying should count for something, but sweetheart, if you want effort to count for something, go back to elementary school because this meet is over. Emory, marches on and doesn’t even break a sweat doing it.

      @Rece Davis wrote:

      (4) Johns Hopkins vs (20) TCNJ

      East Coast matchups are always fun, this one might be an exception because the Hopkins won’t be messing around and taking time out for tea and crumpits, that’s right buddy, I am talkin’ crumpits. Hopkins is too much for TCNJ and is back in the dorms in time to study for the anatomy exams and let the boys from NJ study the anatomy of their female counterparts… and that gets a big Woah.

      @Rece Davis wrote:

      (5) Williams vs (12) Rowan

      Another East Coast matchup? This may not be normal D3, but I love it. Could Rowan pull a Rutgers and shock us all? I don’t think so sweetheart, but nice try. Another no brainer as Williams sends Rowan back on the early bus to Jersey.

      @Rece Davis wrote:

      (6) WashU vs (14) Wabash

      Awe yes, my favorite matchup thus far, might be closer than that GAC vs. Kenyon barn burner. I used to have a barn ya know Herbstreit, it was all red and nice, but enough about that. WashU wins because of 1 thing: star power. I’m not talking Miss Cleo star power niether, I am talking about those studs who get in and swim it to win it. Too much of that sends the Little Giants back on the bus to watch Rick Moranis and Ed O’Neill duke it out in the movie Little Giants.

      @Rece Davis wrote:

      (26) Carthage vs (23) Hope

      Been there, seen it. This one already happened. I know the tournament is different, hey, just ask Duke, but come on. Hope won it for the first time in a couple years and they had a meet the night before. Let’s go onto the next one, just like Hope will be cruisin’ to the next round.
      @Rece Davis wrote:

      (8.) Olaf vs (24) NYU

      We come from St. Olaf, we sure are the real stuff.
      Our team is the cream of the colleges great.
      We fight fast and furious, our team is injurious.
      Tonight Carleton College will sure meet its fate.

      Um! Yah! Yah!, Um! Yah! Yah!
      Um! Yah! Yah!, Um! Yah! Yah!… I think the old QB has heard enough of my singing, but let’s replace Carleton College with NYU and I think this little St. Olaf song gets it right. NYU survived a close call in the first round only to be smacked by those Olies.

      Good night Sweetheart!

    • #33510

      1) Kenyon vs (17) GAC
      I can’t believe I’m going to say this…upset special. I think the Lords overlook Gustavus and are dethroned. There is no doubt in my mind at least that Kenyon will go on to win the National Championship in March. But the way GAC matches up with the Lords doesn’t bode very well for Kenyon. Not to mention, I think Kenyon may be getting a little bit ahead of themselves looking down the schedule to Brad Test and the Blue Jays next week. Gustavus shocks the world!

      (2) Denison vs (18.) W&L
      Off all the second round matchups, this is the meet I would want to see the most. While I don’t think it will be that close of a meet, it might be the fastest meet here. Some wicked races and inhumane talent take the pool in this one but at the end of the day Denison comes out on top.

      (3) Emory vs (14) DePauw
      Emory has so much balance. I really like the way the Tigers burst onto the scene this year with some very impressive swims early in the year. With the depth of Emory’s IMers, Callam in the sprints and the do it all types the Eagles can let DePauw write the lineup and still come out on top. I don’t think this one is very close.

      (4) Johns Hopkins vs (20) TCNJ
      JHU is antsy to get started on this. The Blue Jays are used to big meets on the national scene and swat those pesky Lions.

      (5) Williams vs (12) Rowan
      Rowan is having a great year and while I said I didn’t know a whole lot about them earlier this week I was impressed with what they did against Amherst on Wednesday. They have managed to put together total team wins and rely a little bit on depth. The flashlessness of the Profs everywhere but the boards excite the Ephman as they cruise to victory.

      (6) WashU vs (14) Wabash
      I’ll tell you what Lee, I’ll get back to you next Saturday night about this one…sound good? You don’t even have to say it, I can already hear you’re ‘not so fast.’ In all honesty, Lee is right, the Bears have too many big names to lose this fight to the oxymorons.

      (26) Carthage vs (23) Hope
      Pelka, Schrank, Jole and Davis will each pick up event wins. Hope will rely on depth and a guy I had never heard of to pull out this victory. Sam Meengs. Whats the matter, you haven’t heard of him? The Redmen have.

      (8.) Olaf vs (24) NYU
      Oleeeee’ ole’ ole’ ole’…ole’ ooolay. Oleeeee’ ole’ ole’ ole’…ole’ ooolay. Good night NYU. What is with the songs for St Olaf?

    • #33511
      Rece Davis
      Member

      Seven of eight gentleman. Pretty soon the two of you won’t even need me here. But since there is one meet this round that you couldn’t agree on, I will take the matters into my own hands.

      Kenyon vs GAC. Twenty seven consecutive national titles vs. a team that had a great year and finished outside the top 10. Kirk sometimes I think you like the upset too much it gets the best of you. Even the dual meet against Denison was a nothing meet for the Lords. It doesn’t count towards anything. Give the Lords even a little bit of motivation, something to swim for and they have shown time and time again that they are the best team around. I have to believe that in a national tournament such as this one, they won’t fall in the round of 16, not even to a talented dual meet team like the Gusties.

      That brings us to some exciting matchups in the round of eight…let’s take a look.
      (1) Kenyon vs (8) St. Olaf
      (2) Denison vs (23) Hope
      (3) Emory vs (6) WashU
      (4) JHU vs (5) Williams

      Well folks, how are we doing so far? Feel free to login to d3swimming.com and share your thoughts. Response will be posted shortly after you click the submit button.

      Until next week, for Lee Corso and Kirk Herbstreit, I’m Rece Davis, ESPN.

    • #33512
      N Dynamite
      Member

      Call me crazy but Hope is going to win this thing. When all of the top 8 teams are still in the hunt with the exception of #23 instead of #7 it’s pretty obvious where this is going. It’s understandable, this board is dominated by MIAA posters. Actually, I’m surprised KZOO didn’t knock off Denison at some point.

      Seeing how this is how this has progressed so far, here’s how I see the rest of this going:

      Kenyon over Olaf (they’re ranked higher)
      Hope over Denison (surely Denison is looking past the 23rd ranked Dutchmen and won’t take them seriously. By the time they realize their mistake they’ll be down by too much to recover. Plus, it snows in Michigan, so Denison might even miss the meet due to inclement weather)
      Emory over Wash U (they’re ranked higher)
      JHU over Williams (how can Williams still be in this? Their season is barely started compared to the rest of the nation)

      That brings us to the final four:
      Kenyon vs. Hope – come on, Hope just beat Denison who actually did beat Kenyon. Therefore, logic tells us Hope beats Kenyon – duh.
      Emory vs. Hopkins – are you kidding? Emory is ranked higher – surely they win.

      And in your Championship:
      Emory vs. Hope – How can Hope lose? They just beat the million year reigning National Champion Lords, they’re the Cinderella story, they’re riding an emotional high. Emory will probably DQ both relays and their breaststrokers and flyers will forget about the two hand touch rule in their haste to get the meet over with. All of those lost points and the newfound confidence of the boys from Holland will lead to the perfect ending for this fantasy tournament. WINNER – HOPE!!!

      🙄 🙄

    • #33513
      Milhouse
      Member

      @Rece Davis wrote:

      (5) Williams vs (12) Rowan

      Come on…there is always a 12 over 5 upset. Always.

    • #33514
      trout3
      Member

      It’s understandable, this board is dominated by MIAA posters

      Good point dynamite…. It’s still fun to read

    • #33515
      Rece Davis
      Member

      We’re getting right down to it and in the round of 8. Just as we saw last night, those BCS rankings don’t mean as much as many had anticipated. Maybe it was the big ten as they were the only conference that suffered upsets in BCS Bowls. Nevertheless, the system has failed us again…hopefully college football can learn from Lee, Kirk and the crew and follow the lead of d3swimming.com’s dual meet national championship tournament and many other college sports and adopt a playoff.

      So here we are, gentleman, tell me who is going to advance into the national semi finals.

      (1) Kenyon vs (8.) St. Olaf
      (2) Denison vs (23) Hope
      (3) Emory vs (6) WashU
      (4) JHU vs (5) Williams

    • #33516
      Lee Corso
      Member

      @Rece Davis wrote:

      (1) Kenyon vs (8.) St. Olaf

      I really had to look at matchups in this contest. Kenyon is a distance strong team this year and will again raise that NCAA trophy, but Olaf is one tough cookie. I broke it down like this fellas:
      1000, 500, 200 all to Kenyon
      Backstroke to Olaf
      Breastroke to Kenyon
      Fly to Kenyon
      50, 100 to Olaf
      Diving to Olaf
      It came down to relays, and every year we doubt those Purple people eaters and they keep winning, well no change here, Kenyon pulls out the W.

      @Rece Davis wrote:

      (2) Denison vs (23) Hope

      Rece, Cinderella came to the ball, and Cinderella for this championship is Hope. Unfortunately, while she was trying on the slipper, she broke her ankle… then fell down a cliff. Why she was trying on a slipper by a cliff, I’ll never know, but the moral of the story: Denison dominates and sends Cinderella back to Holland without giving them a chance.

      @Rece Davis wrote:

      (3) Emory vs (6) WashU

      Wash U has been doing pretty well. They lost their 2 best swimmers but still got to the Elite 8 this year. You have to commend a team for that. You might think that with all this momentum, they could pull out another victory, but not so fast sweetheart. Wash U is strong in events where Emory is dominant. If Wash U pulls out an upset, Emory will be there 2-4. Good night Wash U, and the Eagles fly on.

      @Rece Davis wrote:

      (4) JHU vs (5) Williams

      Krik, Rece, get ready for a matchup. This reminds me of the hype going into last night’s game. Just like the kick return to start it off last night, those Hopkins boys would come out and put up something impressive on the opening relay. Unfortunately for them, that’s where the fun would end. Sprints and backstroke fellas, that’s what JHU would win. Unfortunately for them, that’s about it. Williams wins in something that wasn’t even close! Go Ephs!

    • #33517

      (1) Kenyon vs. (8.) Olaf
      While I agree that the Coach makes some very valid points, I have to disagree with a few of them. I have a hard time giving Kenyon the breaststrokes and butterflys. I am forced to split them because of who many consider to be the premier swimmer in d3, Nelson Westby. Chalk up 2 wins the old guy gave the lords in the 1 fly and 1 breast and all of the sudden we’ve got a meet on our hands. With a win in the medley and the Oles coming out firing, they’ve got a chance to put Kenyon against the wall. Pivotal races in the 200 and 500 Free as well as the 200 Breast make this interesting, if the Oles can pick up one of these wins they advance. I also have to give the edge to Olaf on the boards. While I respect everything that Steen and the Lords have done, they can’t stop Olaf from picking up W’s. The Oles march on and pull off the biggest upset in tournament history!

      (2) Denison vs. (23) Hope
      Rece, this one is going to be ugly. Hope snuck by Carthage on diving and now face Denison, a team that has dominated the talk of the country this season. If Hope wins one event, it will be a gift from Parini. The Big Red are too much across the board. Even in the IM if Parini wants it, I think he can go get it in this dual. Ouchtown, population Hope, bro!

      (3) Emory vs. (6) WashU
      While WashU can present lineup fits for many teams in the country, Emory just isn’t one of them. Where WashU is strong, Emory is stronger. Where Emory has their weaknesses….and by weaknesses I only mean not as strong as their premier events, WashU is weaker. Emory puts it on cruise control and await the Big Red!

      (4) JHU vs. (5) Williams
      I have to admit that I am a bit surprised by your analysis Lee. This group of Blue Jays is an extremely talented group and to say that they are going to get taken to the cleaners by Williams is almost shocking. I disagree with your thoughts on the swimming side of things, I think this has the makings to be an exciting meet but unfortunately for Hopkins, I mean exciting in the sense that there will be many great races; none of which will dictate the outcome of the meet. The difference here for me is the Eph divers. It is too many points to overcome out of the gate as a team that wouldn’t even be considered the swimming favorite.

    • #33518
      Rece Davis
      Member

      Since the Kenyon vs. Olaf meet could not be decided, I guess i will have to step in and save the day. Kenyon has the depth and even has some studs. Most of these studs have not shown up yet, we are just waiting for it. While we wait, Olaf upsets Kenyon and moves on. Kenyon will still have their actual NCAA title to look at however, so I don’t see them crying for too long.

      Until next time, this is Rece Davis, with the Coach Lee Corso and the quarterback, Kirk Herbstreit, signing off.

    • #33519
      99 Red
      Member

      Love this series, waiting on the next installment.

    • #33520
      Rece Davis
      Member

      Coming soon…

    • #33521
      Rece Davis
      Member

      Ladies and Gentleman, welcome back! We apologize for the delay, we have been trying diligently to get a statement from Myles Brand, NCAA President, trying to make this thing a reality next year. So far, to no avail; so we will have to continue to put our faith into the two masterminds that have gotten us this far. After a few days off we have the last four teams in the country set to square off. There is an awful lot to be excited about so why don’t we get things underway.

      Our first meet features a team that stunned the world when they knocked of the 27 time defending National Champions. Seventh seeded St Olaf is primed and ready to keep their streak of upsets alive as they face perennial Sears Cup winner, Williams, the overall 5 seed. Williams is led by a transfer that has a Chris Paul presence to him, elevating the play of everyone around him, the Ephmen appear ready. Now the Eagles down in Atlanta, the third seed, probably don’t love hearing Chris Paul analogy’s but they have enough to worry about when they take on the Greg Parini’s Big Red Machine the highest remaining seed in the tournament at #2. Lee, I will turn it over to you, which two teams will move on to compete for the 2007 D3Swimming.com National Championship?

    • #33522
      Lee Corso
      Member

      St. Olaf vs. Williams

      Wow Kirk, what a matchup! And we’re not just talking about a matchup of stupid nicknames, but of 2 great teams. Olaf comes to town with a stud sprinter, a pair of backstrokers who light up the pool and perhaps the most versatile swimmer in all of D3, Nelson Westby. I saw him earlier and he said him being from the West Coast and going to the East Coast wasn’t a factor, but i disgaree. Williams comes with the transfer of all transfers, Millen, a butterflyer backup, and some freestylin’ studs. This one will depend won who swims where. Two great coaches write 2 great lineups like Urban Meyer and Jim Tressel, except one of them has his dad helpin’ him out. Can you imagine if old Mr. Herbstreit were up here helping you make picks? Boy, you might actually get one right!

      I am getting this right when i say Williams cannot be stopped. St. Olaf will take several events, and Westby and Koch will do all they can, but in the end, they will be swimming upstream, and these ain’t no salmon baby! The combo of Spinelli, Millen and McManic go McFast and and send them home just in time to see Grey’s Anatomy. What Kirk, don’t get the Mc-connection? Come on, the wife makes me watch it, I swear!

      Williams moves on sweetheart!

      Denison vs. Emory

      Kirk, quick, name a team deeper than Emory… gotcha, you can’t. And folks, it’s not because he went to Ohio State, it’s because no team is deeper than Emory, period. Want an IMer? Try 6 of the top 8 right now! Wowza! Need a distance swimmer? Try their returning NCAA champion 500 man, Mr. Newton, but this one didn’t find gravity! Kirk, I’ll stop quizzing you, but I’ll tell you right now you can’t name a team with more studs than this Denison team. Peterson, Curtis, Byers, these guys are household names. What’s more important in a dual meet Rece? Is it depth or is it studs? Well that’s the age old question we’re here to answer.

      Emory is going to be going 2-4 in several events and even winning a couple, doubling or tripling up the competition, but my friends, it will not matter. There’s a little quirk in dual meet scoring that says the winner will outscore everyone else, no matter how many guys come behind them. This is what propels Denison to victory. Emory keeps it close and “flies high on Eagles wings” (*Sings Off Key*), but eventually have the Big Red hurt put down on them. 1-2-3, Emory is down for the count.

      Denison marches on and readies for battle with Williams.

    • #33523

      The Ephs and the Oles, I’ll tell you what, if it were a battle of weird mascots I would have a hard time deciding but the fact of the matter is, I’m having a difficult enough time anyway.

      When it comes right down to it, I have to go with Williams. When you look at the stud power, each team will be competitive but I like Williams versatility and Kuster’s intangibles. He will have his Ephman ready. Westby and Co are going to do all they can and to be perfectly honesty, it might be enough on some days, but not this one. They will come in riding an emotional high after knocking off Kenyon last week and they should. I’m not going to say that the Oles will be looking past Williams but the Ephs are deceptively fast and they are a little bit deeper when they need to be. I believe Kuster brings the right lineup to the meet and the Oles pick up their share of events but after the 400 Free Relay it’s the boys from out east that go home winners.

      When the seeds came out on the selection show I couldn’t help but get ahead of myself and think about the potential matchup of Denison and Emory. Well, it’s not a hypothetical any more! These two titans collide and it is the Michigan/Ohio St game of d3 swim meets, an instant classic. The advantage Emory has is the depth that they have and the ability to not have to depend on one of their couple top guys to win an event he ‘should’ win where Denison has to win the events they are supposed to. Emory has the ability to write a great lineup without having to roll the dice, Howell knows this. Parini knows he has to pick up the events where he can. Diving could be the difference in this meet and by golly the boys from Ohio sure hope so where they will hold more than just a slight advantage in two events. As we all know wins are what matter in dual meets and if Denison’s studs are supposed to win their events and they’ve got the edge in diving that is all she wrote. Except Emory is as deep of a team as there is in the country right now and probably as deep of a team as there has been in a few years. They will have a great swim in every event and the message they will send to Denison is, we’re going to swim every event to win it and if by chance we don’t we’ll have the depth to follow with a 2-3-4 and don’t you worry, we’ll pick up our fair share of wins. Peterson can’t swim everything and I’m not so sure he can win the 1000 but that would be one heck of a race. You almost have to chance it unless you go for the medley and throw him in the IM. The bottom line is Parini will have written 20 different versions of the best possible lineup with changes pending throughout the meet. Howell has to write one and I think it’s good enough as the Eagles soar into the title matchup!

    • #33524
      Rece Davis
      Member

      Well thanks for that analysis gentlemen, but I was hoping I wouldn’t have to step in today. The Final Four is always tough to pick and this one is no exception.

      Emory offers depth and numerous swimmers at each event, Denison has the studs with the potential, but notice I just said potential, to sweep the freestyles. Sure a 400 IM would help Emory, but in the end, it doesn’t matter as the Eagles use their combination of depth and studs, like a boxers with jabs and hooks, to squeak out a few of the races Parini rolls the dice on, and in the end, Emory stands tall.

      Well folks, that wraps up an exciting final four. Of course we’d love to hear everyone’s thoughts and opinions, so don’t hesitate to post.

      The finals will be held down in Atlanta with the boys of Emory hosting the pesky boys from Williams. This one IS worth missing class for.

      Thanks for joining us, have a safe and fun weekend, goodbye!

    • #33525

      Both teams coming off great meets last weekend, and the Woodruff P.E. Center and the Emory Natatorium is full of fans fairing for fighting finish. Williams will be traveling hundreds of miles from cold Western Massachusetts to sunny Atlanta. The question is, who came prepared for the dual meet of the season.

      Kuster and his boys arrive in Atlanta, ready and prepared for a win. Yet, the question on everyone’s mind is how Kuster will pull of this miracle. He holds studs in his pocket that can compete with the studs in Howell’s artillery. One weakness I’m sure Kuster will try to strike hard is with the sprinters. Emory leads with Senior Captain, Andrew Callam, to defend the short distances, but Williams will answer with Norman and Gallucci. Emory’s answer to Kuster’s attach on the sprint core will be the freshmen class sprinters, Sloan at 6 feet 10 inches and DiMarco along with the junior class experience, Inacker and Burke, finishing off their depth.

      The race everyone is waiting to see is Massachusetts native Spinelli against defending national champion Newton, for the title in the 500 free. Along with Spinelli, Kuster will put swimmers like Kirwan and Wentworth-Ping to close field, but no one can contest to the rest of Emory’s 500 swimmers- Lake, Roos, Roos, Diggs, Scarborough, Milburn and Minturn. Any of these talented eagles will swim fast enough to pick up the third, fourth and fifth. Everyone watch for Lake (also a MA native), he will do wonders.

      Roaring before the break will be Emory’s specialty- the 200 IM. After the loss of Cunningham, Williams leads the attack with senior Dave McManic along with Chris Millen, but Howell will throw in his Emory IM’ers, consisting of Diggs, Roos, Roos, DiMarco, Bobo, Brown, Yamada, and Burke.

      With talent and experience on both sides, the Emory Eagles will put an impressive show. Howell can create multiple line ups with different people in each event and Kuster will still have a hard time filling, finding and attacking their weaknesses. Here’s what it is going to come down to. Does Williams have the depth to compete with the depth Emory holds? The argument discussed this season was about studs and depth. It is fairly apparent that Emory, like very few institutions, has both. Yet, it is their even and right balance of the two that will declare Emory has the National Dual Meet Champion. On paper, Emory is more than just impressive. Yes, Williams has their studs, Spinelli in particular, but if they have Spinelli, Emory has Newton, Lake and so on. The results I look for online are the Emory results. They have a 4-4 dual meet record, only losing to D1 schools like UGA. One thing the spectators will enjoy is the race among the Emory swimmers. I can envision a few:

      The 200/400 Medley Relay. I swear I have seen more than a dozen combinations. They have 3 backstrokers at 24-25/51-52, breaststrokers at 26-27/57-58, flyers at 23/50-51, plenty of freestylers sub 22/sub 48.

      The 500 with the Emory distance swimmers- Newton, Lake, Diggs, Roos, Scarborough, Milburn and Minturn

      The versatile 200 IM with Diggs, Bobo, Burke, Yamada, Roos, DiMarco, and Brown. With Flyers, Backstrookers, Breakststrokers and Freestylers in the field I’m sure there will be a new leader at each 50.

      The 200 Fly, with Brown and Petroff holding the top 2 times this year.

      What’s so special about this Eagles squad is the competition within their team. On the top times list, you can see several Eagles within 2 seconds of each other in almost every event. Yet, those Ephs didn’t travel just for watching, they will put up a good fight. I can only imagine the possible records being broken at that pool and during that weekend.

      Congrats to the Emory Eagles.

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