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June 12, 2006 at 10:00 pm #11846
DonCheadle
MemberNational record is 6:36.30
That is 1:39.1 per guy.
Curtis, Byers, Peterson can do that (with 2 of 3 taking relay starts).
And I hear they are bringing in a freshmen in the 1:40 range. What do we think?
Honestly, it would be nice to have a non-Kenyon relay record (no offense guys).
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June 12, 2006 at 10:17 pm #28985
N Dynamite
MemberI also heard they got a stud freestyle/fly guy that could go 1:40. Definitely think it is in range.
While we’re talking records for next year, anyone want to start calling top 3 in each event? I’ll see what I can come up with, but I’m curious to hear what people are thinking.
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June 13, 2006 at 6:10 am #28986
iswimalottayards
MemberIsn’t it a little early when the freshman classes are all still unofficial
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June 13, 2006 at 1:09 pm #28987
silentp
MemberToo early for me to make my picks, i’m waiting until the Holiday taper meets.
As far as records go, Denison has a shot, but i don’t think they’ll get it, even though i’d love to see it.
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June 13, 2006 at 2:19 pm #28988
DonCheadle
Member@iswimalottayards wrote:
Isn’t it a little early when the freshman classes are all still unofficial
Too early for what? Nothing we write really matters anyhow.
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June 13, 2006 at 4:25 pm #28989
swim5599
MemberDenison had a huge year last year. If they bring a guy in that fast I think that record is done. Parini is an outstanding coach.
On another front the guy who might make the biggest impact at the nat level next year is Nelson Westby. He is my fav in the 200 IM. Monster swim out of him in the consolation final this year. He just has to make the top 8 and I think he will win.
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July 19, 2006 at 2:23 pm #28990
Aflac
MemberGuys,
You’re forgetting they had Geissinger sitting on the bench for their 8 Free last year. They already have the tools in place it ALL just needs to come together AT THE SAME TIME. That is the tricky part. Any team would love to have their 5th 200 Freestyler score at Nats in the event and go a 1:41.
I also have heard they are getting one of David Curtis’ boys from high school. Steel maybe? Nice to have those kinds of options. Good for Denison and Parini.
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July 19, 2006 at 2:53 pm #28991
swim5599
MemberI don’t think they can do it without a 1:38 mid lead off. Peterson is capable, and after watching Curtis go out in 1:42 in the prelims of the 500, he might be capable as well. But in order to go 6:36 you have to have a 1:38 lead off no way around it.
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July 19, 2006 at 3:05 pm #28992
N Dynamite
MemberI have heard they got Steele – great pick up for Parini
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July 20, 2006 at 4:43 pm #28993
silentp
MemberThis is the relay record:
1) KENYON 6:36.26 **
1) COURTNEY-BROOKS,SO :22.84 3) MONTEIRO, LEANDRFR 3:40.90
:47.83 4:06.21
1:12.46 4:32.29
1:37.12 4:58.40
2) RODRIGUES, GABRIFR 2:00.94 4) BOON, READ JR 5:20.82
2:26.95 5:45.60
2:52.99 6:10.73
3:18.86 6:36.261:37.12 to 1:41.74 to 1:39.54 to 1:37.86
I think they can get 2 – 3 guys under 1:40, but without the studs like Kenyon had Boon and MCB, i don’t see it happening.
Anyone know if they brought in anything else? I know they don’t lose a lot and were very very good last year. Steele is a great pickup.
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July 21, 2006 at 1:13 am #28994
The Treat
Member@silentp wrote:
This is the relay record:
1) KENYON 6:36.26 **
1) COURTNEY-BROOKS,SO :22.84 3) MONTEIRO, LEANDRFR 3:40.90
:47.83 4:06.21
1:12.46 4:32.29
1:37.12 4:58.40
2) RODRIGUES, GABRIFR 2:00.94 4) BOON, READ JR 5:20.82
2:26.95 5:45.60
2:52.99 6:10.73
3:18.86 6:36.261:37.12 to 1:41.74 to 1:39.54 to 1:37.86
I think they can get 2 – 3 guys under 1:40, but without the studs like Kenyon had Boon and MCB, i don’t see it happening.
Anyone know if they brought in anything else? I know they don’t lose a lot and were very very good last year. Steele is a great pickup.
i dont see them going that. i would be willing to bet HUGE money that they wont. that record is too disgusting. what people dont take into account about that relay is how tired you get after two full days of racing. peterson and curtis have the 500 the day before. that takes a lot out of you. they’ll be under 6:40, but 6:36 i would say is untouchable. also take into account that they wont have anyone nearly as close as this year. both willliams and wash u take big losses and they weren’t even that close.
unless they get a HUGE recruit/transfer, this is right out. If someone wants to put money down that they will break the record, i’ll take it. i might even give you odds.
every time i look at MCB’s splits, i think about how average of a swimmer he was. 24.99 on his 2nd 50? what a joke 😆
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July 21, 2006 at 8:24 pm #28995
swim5599
Membereverytime I think of MCB I think about the 51 flat he threw out there on the end of his then record setting swim in the 500. Just ridiculous. Yeah 6:36 is pretty fast and Denison would have to haul to get there. I think that Kenyon’s 200 MR record might be faster though.
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July 21, 2006 at 8:49 pm #28996
silentp
Member@swim5599 wrote:
everytime I think of MCB I think about the 51 flat he threw out there on the end of his then record setting swim in the 500. Just ridiculous. Yeah 6:36 is pretty fast and Denison would have to haul to get there. I think that Kenyon’s 200 MR record might be faster though.
You’ve given me purpose on a friday afternoon!
200 FR: Set in 1998, 1:19.40, .02 under D1 B Cut
reason it could be best: its a lot faster than 4 x the record400 MR: Set in ’04, 3:16.70, 3 second off D1 B Cut
reason it could be best: a 49 backstroke, a 55 breast, a 47 flyer and MCB = amazing, and almost unbeatable200 MR: Set in ’01, 1:28.80, 1.3 off the D1 B Cut
reason it could be best: no other team has been under 1:30 and usually, no one is close800 FR: Set in ’02, 6:36.3, 6 seconds off the B Cut
reason it’s the best: no one has been within 4 seconds of it400 FR: Set in 1998, 2:58.00, 1.5 off the B Cut
reason it’s the best: no team has been within 3 seconds of it and it takes a 45.5 averageI think the order goes:
200 FR
200 MR
400 FR
400 MR
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July 21, 2006 at 9:02 pm #28997
swim5599
Memberactually it would take a 44.5 avg for the 400 FR.
But either way pretty much all of those relays are incredible. To bad Kenyon could not break the 400 FR in 2004 because that swim consists of probably the most impressive 100 yards ever swum by anyone at the D3 level. MCB’s 42.99, man that’s awesome -
July 22, 2006 at 3:51 pm #28998
DonCheadle
Member200 Free Relay in 1998 would have placed well at D1’s. (and) It would have made the meet that year. That is the best record, not really even close.
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