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    • #12348
      RadAGator
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      Wish I had a video of the crowd’s reaction to these two races…what are the odds huh?


      Event 22 Boys 100 Yard Breaststroke
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      Name Year School Prelims Finals Points
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      A – Final
      1 Decker, Benjamin 11 Humble Kingwood 56.88 56.88 18.5 Not an error (actually happened)!!!
      27.04 29.84
      1 Hammervold, Joshua 12 FB Hightower 56.88 56.88 18.5
      26.85 30.03
      3 Salcido, Eddie 12 Hous Cy-Creek 57.17 56.92 16
      26.80 30.12
      4 Peyro, Edgar 12 EP Eastwood 58.14 57.36 15
      27.21 30.15
      5 Snowden, Bryan 12 SA Taft 57.20 57.40 14
      27.07 30.33
      6 Ferguson, Clayton 11 Humble Kingwood 58.21 58.67 13
      27.82 30.85
      7 O’Shea, Sean 11 CS A&M Cons 58.82 59.82 12
      27.83 31.99
      8 Hotard, David 11 Conroe Woodlands 59.15 1:00.03 11
      28.19 31.84

    • #35356

      Whats so surprising? I’m confused. Just that they tied?

      Ben Decker should be getting a lot faster than that. I think he has slowed from his freshman year….

    • #35357
      Kari Byron
      Member

      I’m with Rhyme on this one, what’s so surprising about a tie? It happens all the time. There were atleast 2 or 3 ties this weekend at the MIAC meet alone. I don’t find it that surprising.

    • #35358
      gccswimmer16
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      I think the surprising fact was that they tied twice, with the exact same time.

    • #35359
      N Dynamite
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      @RhymeAndReason wrote:

      Whats so surprising? I’m confused. Just that they tied?

      I think it’s that they tied in prelims and finals in the exact same time (56.88 in prelims and finals) which is crazy. I would love to have heard the crowd’s reaction to the finals swim.

    • #35360

      @N Dynamite wrote:

      @RhymeAndReason wrote:

      Whats so surprising? I’m confused. Just that they tied?

      I think it’s that they tied in prelims and finals in the exact same time (56.88 in prelims and finals) which is crazy. I would love to have heard the crowd’s reaction to the finals swim.

      You guys are quick : ) Okay, didn’t notice that. That IS surprising.

    • #35361
      Kari Byron
      Member

      Now that I feel dumb ’cause I can’t read results worth a d***, I agree that it is quite incredible.

    • #35362
      The Treat
      Member

      @RhymeAndReason wrote:

      @N Dynamite wrote:

      @RhymeAndReason wrote:

      Whats so surprising? I’m confused. Just that they tied?

      I think it’s that they tied in prelims and finals in the exact same time (56.88 in prelims and finals) which is crazy. I would love to have heard the crowd’s reaction to the finals swim.

      You guys are quick : ) Okay, didn’t notice that. That IS surprising.

      they also reversed their splits for the races (well, not exactly, but it’s pretty close). just another semi-weird thing that happened.

    • #35363
      swim5599
      Member

      They should have had a swim off. How close would that one be.

    • #35364
      RadAGator
      Member

      yeah its kinda tricky to see…..but I can’t imagine tying somebody, twice, in the exact same time….

    • #35365

      Does anyone remember the 96 Olympic when the two guys in either the 200 or 400 free (someone help me on this one), tied in prelims for 8th place and then tied again in the swim off? One of the swimmers let the other guy have it since he had more races to swim.

      I mentioned this one time before somewhere on here, but my Sophmore year, two teams tied in the 200 free relay for the MN state championships and the following year, my relay and another schoold tied for the title. Not as cool as two swimmers tying twice with the exact same time both times, but worht mentioning.

    • #35366
      Vic
      Member

      @Its all an ACT wrote:

      Does anyone remember the 96 Olympic when the two guys in either the 200 or 400 free (someone help me on this one), tied in prelims for 8th place and then tied again in the swim off? One of the swimmers let the other guy have it since he had more races to swim.

      It was Paul Palmer of Great Britain and Jani Sievinen of Finland. Sievinen was the world record holder at the time in the 200 IM, and he scratched because he didn’t want to use up all his energy swimming an event that he probably wouldn’t medal in. He ended up getting second in the 200 IM.

      Results are here.

    • #35367
      openwater
      Member

      @RadAGator wrote:

      A – Final
      1 Decker, Benjamin 11 Humble Kingwood 56.88 56.88 18.5 Not an error (actually happened)!!!
      27.04 29.84
      1 Hammervold, Joshua 12 FB Hightower 56.88 56.88 18.5
      26.85 30.03
      3 Salcido, Eddie 12 Hous Cy-Creek 57.17 56.92 16
      26.80 30.12

      And if there wasn’t enough else going on 3rd place was only 2 inches back.

    • #35368
      swim5599
      Member

      Yeah third was just 4 one hundreths back. That had to be fun to watch

    • #35369
      JHU84
      Member

      they are both swimming at sectionals this weekend so if they tie at 56.88 that will be karma!

    • #35370
      Anonymous
      Member

      I was actually at the meet for both prelims and finals. No one really thought much of it, until it was realized that it was the same time for both prelims and finals. Definetly a crazy finish. The 5A meet in general is a lot of fun to watch.

    • #35371
      JHU84
      Member

      @arbre3 wrote:

      I was actually at the meet for both prelims and finals. No one really thought much of it, until it was realized that it was the same time for both prelims and finals. Definetly a crazy finish. The 5A meet in general is a lot of fun to watch.

      off topic but it could be a lot more fun if they expanded the field to 24 that way you don’t have to watch kids that can’t even make a sectionals cut swimming for points

      how do some other states do it texas lets the 8 region winners and now the next 8 fasted for only 16 total

    • #35372

      Kentucky State High School Championships take the top 2 at each region (10 total swimmers) plus the next 14. Only three heats of prelims. KY is not the fastest state, but there are some good swims. Some guy broke Nate Dusing’s 200 Free record this year with a 1:38+. KY rules also let 7th and 8th graders compete at the discretion of the HS coach. KY had the meet this year at Louisville, with it’s limited seating, so boys and girls were separated by session. Which didn’t really help when all the girls from the morning final stayed for the boys final and made seating tight. Usually, the meet is held at UK, but SEC’s were there this season. Only slightly better seating at UK.

      At least that is better than the TN final: the standard is based on the 65th time at the final three years prior. So, basically, the pool is a zoo. The meet is held at Tracy Caulkins in Nashville, with boys swimming on one side, girls on the other.

      Illinois: the boys and girls season is completely separate. It’s a fast meet, but held in one of two SIX LANE POOLS! Hard to imagine that a state as strong in swimming as Illinois (Eric Triebe! Mike Slavik!) has the meet in substandard pools. Supposedly, there is a rule about seating minimums, and frankly, the three largest pools in the state cannot host the finals. Too bad. In any case, the boys and girls season is separate, and a rule accompanies in that no HS swimmer may even practice at all with the USA team during season. Consequence: during boys’ season, USA swim teams are exclusively girls teams, and vice-versa.

    • #35373
      Chris Knight
      Member

      The North Carolina HSAA holds 3 meets: 1A/2A have direct qualifying, 3A takes the top 12 from 2 regional meets, and 4A the top 8 from 3 regions. I believe that swimmers in the regional consoles can move up, to keep the finalists from slacking. Independent schools have 2 meets with direct qualifying. There should really only be 2 meets, 1 public and 1 independent, but it won’t ever go in that direction.

      As for pools, it varies, but the traditional site for the public school meets is NC State, which is a ridiculously slow pool but an incredible atmosphere, with spectator seating on 3 sides of the pool and no more than 10 yards from the water to the first row of seats. It’s an electrifying place to watch a good meet.

    • #35374
      openwater
      Member

      In Wisconsin the girls season is in the fall with the State meet the 2nd week in November. The boys season starts the following Monday and their state meet is the middle of February. Two divisions (the 60% largest schools are D1, smaller 40% D2). No qualifying standards – the week before the State meet there are 4 D2 Sectionals and 6 D1 Sectionals. For D1 each sectional event winner plus the next 18 fastest times on that day are in the State meet. Three heats, you can win from the #24 seed. For D2 it is the 4 Sectional winners and the next 12 fastest times. 18 entries per team, divers count as one entry just like swimmers. The D2 meet is held on Friday night, the D1 meet on Saturday afternoon. Always held at the less than stellar 8 lane, UW Nat. in Madison. Seating for 2000 on a single towering set of bleachers that start on the 2nd floor balcony and go up and up. Been talk of a prelims-final format like all of Wisconsin’s neighbors but a lot of resistance from the WIAA.

    • #35375
      swim5599
      Member

      The Illinois High School state meet is the loudest swim meet I have ever been a part of. They pack so many people into both Evanston and New Trier, it is really amazing to be a part of.

    • #35376

      @Chris Knight wrote:

      The North Carolina HSAA holds 3 meets: 1A/2A have direct qualifying, 3A takes the top 12 from 2 regional meets, and 4A the top 8 from 3 regions. I believe that swimmers in the regional consoles can move up, to keep the finalists from slacking. Independent schools have 2 meets with direct qualifying. There should really only be 2 meets, 1 public and 1 independent, but it won’t ever go in that direction.

      As for pools, it varies, but the traditional site for the public school meets is NC State, which is a ridiculously slow pool but an incredible atmosphere, with spectator seating on 3 sides of the pool and no more than 10 yards from the water to the first row of seats. It’s an electrifying place to watch a good meet.

      I was at the HS meet last year at UNC, and it was okay, nothing special in the atmosphere. Good swimming though, with guys like Berens, Houchin, Dove, James and Donch.

    • #35377
      openwater
      Member

      @openwater wrote:

      In Wisconsin the girls season is in the fall with the State meet the 2nd week in November. The boys season starts the following Monday and their state meet is the middle of February. Two divisions (the 60% largest schools are D1, smaller 40% D2). No qualifying standards – the week before the State meet there are 4 D2 Sectionals and 6 D1 Sectionals. For D1 each sectional event winner plus the next 18 fastest times on that day are in the State meet. Three heats, you can win from the #24 seed. For D2 it is the 4 Sectional winners and the next 12 fastest times. 18 entries per team, divers count as one entry just like swimmers. The D2 meet is held on Friday night, the D1 meet on Saturday afternoon. Always held at the less than stellar 8 lane, UW Nat. in Madison. Seating for 2000 on a single towering set of bleachers that start on the 2nd floor balcony and go up and up. Been talk of a prelims-final format like all of Wisconsin’s neighbors but a lot of resistance from the WIAA.

      Oh I forgot to add – both State meets are scored through 16 places so if you make it to the D2 meet you score for your team (absent a DQ) but only the top 2/3 score at the D1 meet on Saturday.

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