chlorine and asthma

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    • #12957

      i just read an article about the health hazards of chlorinated pools. They have been linked to bladder cancer and respiratory problems because of the combination of organics (from our bodies) and chlorine creating toxic chemicals. Do any of you experience breathing problems? Swimming has been touted as the ultimate sport for health and now I read this. You just can’t win these days. It reminds me of something I read about soy supposedly having a shrinking effect males’ brains. So much for drinking soy milk.

    • #42964
      El Duderino
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      For anyone that knows Scott “the cough” Beck, I’m sure this didn’t come as much of a surprise. He swam for a few months, but after awhile, his coughing became so bad that he couldn’t swim anymore. Suffice to say, rarely could he sneak into a room – his cough announced his presence long before he arrived. From what I hear, its getting better… 2+ years later.

    • #42965
      Milhouse
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      Every time you breathe, the total number of breaths you take until you die is reduced by one. Think about that the next time you’re tempted to take a breath right before going into a turn.

    • #42966
      Nebulizer
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      I’ve seen some experience breathing problems while in the pool, in fact, I get used quite regularly. But I’m not so sure it’s a function of the chlorine though.

    • #42967

      When I was a lifeguard about 8-9 years ago I read a article in an aquatics magazine about a condition that was being called “Lifeguard Lung.” I’m not sure it was ever diagnosed as a legitimate condition but lifeguards were developing respiratory conditions, and it was believed that it was because of the environment they were working in. If I remember the article correctly it was prevalent in indoor water parks, mainly because of water cannons which would increase the chlorinated water in the air. I would assume the same problems with swimmers, since they are in the pool regularly and for long periods of time. However I would think that the problems come from pools which are not very good at making sure their water is balanced. This probably could be solved, if it’s a problem at all, with a UV system which doesn’t need chemicals to teat pool water, although they are expensive.

    • #42963

      I always thought the air was the worst following kick sets. Everyone basically splashed the water causing chlorine to go into the air. We usually opened the door during and after kicking sets since that is when the pool was the worst.

      I think some of the more old school pools had carpeting around the deck as well (at least my high school pool did on one end). The carpet absorbed all the chlorinated water, and then would let it out when it got wet again.

      Wouldn’t coaches be most affected by this problem? Like a guy like Jim Steen has spent the last 30 or so years around indoor pools. I’d argue coaches are in the pool area much more than lifeguards. Maybe it should be called “Steen Lung.”

    • #42968
      wonderboy33
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      I’m not sure about this. An article about chlorine and asthma pops up every once in a while and then goes away. I would think that more coaches would be developing breathing problems over the years as they spend so much time standing on the deck. I’d like to see how the study was conducted. This never seemed to be a huge problem in the old days but now asthma is diagnosed more frequently.

      I can say that the air in some of the old high school pools is terrible. Usually it’s a janitor that tends to the chemicals, and he’s usually not too happy to have to spend time doing it. Being a Certified Pool Operator, I can tell when the chemicals are out of whack right away. If you smell chlorine, it indicates that the free chlorine level is too low. So, those old high school pools that have a strong chlorine smell are actually lacking enough free chlorine and contain too much organic material from people, dirt, lotions, etc.

      I heard a rumor once that when cigarette smoke and chlorine mix, it becomes similar to agent orange. It sounds crazy to me. Has anyone heard such a thing? If so, Chapel may want to think twice when burning heaters outside the pool entrance.

    • #42969
      maverick1
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      i would think that the gaseous chlorine would probably sit in a smog-like cloud over the pool. I am not a pool operator or anything like that though.

      I remember going to the doctor for a physical when i was in middle school and was going to join the cross country team. He asked whether or not i got out of breath easily when i ran. I said yes and he prescribed an inhaler and told me i had asthma……without ever asking how in/out of shape i was.

      moral of this whole story, in my opinion, is that while medicine continues to become more accurate and advanced, there are still plenty of issues, which includes crazy primary care doctors giving out inhalers for fun.

    • #42972

      the alternatives to chlorine listed in the articles i read were along the lines of saline pools or simply swimming outdoors. Nothing was stated about maybe using a more sophisticated ventilation system that can recycle fresh air over the water or something like that. that seems more logical to me.

    • #42971
      wonderboy33
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      The more sophisticated systems do cycle fresh air into the pool area a number of times per hour. I think around 6 times per hour seems to be a good number. This is much better than opening a door after a kick set to take care of the chlorine that is kicked up into the air. When you open the door, it screws with the ventilation system and usually turns the heat on.

      I used to train kids in a saline treated pool and it had a terrible taste to it. There are alternatives like bromine but they have drawbacks as well. I’ve heard that bromine can erode tooth enamel and turn them yellow. I’ve also heard of an oxygenation system but I’m not as familiar with the process. Chlorine seems to be the safest, most cost-effective way of sanitizing pool water. It just needs to be taken care of and well-ventilated.

    • #42973

      Ultraviolet Water Treatment from what I understand is pretty effective and there is no kind of side effects in terms of bad smell from chloramines like chlorine has. Although again if the pool is properly balanced then there shouldn’t be any smell. I don’t know what a UV system costs but I am guessing it is much more expensive than the traditional types of chlorine treatment systems.

    • #42970
      99 Red
      Member

      UV treatment works to clean a pool, but I know that at least in Ohio (by law) you still need to have chemicals in the water so there is… well so there is something to get at the pee right away.

    • #42974

      The ozone systems are very expensive to maintain from what I have heard. also please forgive me for any grammatical errors. i spilled grape juice on my keyboard and now the shift key works 50 percent of the time so i type ats i think.

    • #42975
      Low Tide
      Member

      All this talk about chlorine and no mention of how addictive it is? Am the only one here who injects chlorine?

      — that’s a rhetorical question, of course I’m not the only one —

    • #42976
      maverick1
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      wouldn’t silver work? i remember from a class i took years and years ago (2005 or so )that romans used silver coins to keep liquids from spoiling quickly.

      it would also be sweet to turn blue from swimming like this dude who ingested colloidal silver

      http://www.nationalledger.com/artman/uploads/blue_man.jpg

    • #42977
      CaseBrst10
      Member

      I’d have to agree, over the years of swimming indoors, I feel like my asthma as started and worsened, right about the time I began seriously competing/practicing a lot. For myself at least, I definitely believe that indoor pools can contribute to breathing problems, as I have much fewer breathing issues outdoors than in. In many indoor pools, after a first few laps I can tell whether or not the air quality is good.

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