CCIW Takes a Step Backward

@stokes wrote:

So much for high expectations.

Wheaton gets whacked by Chicago – they didn’t score it, but if you would have it would have been the Maroon by nearly 100.

Carthage gets clobbered by Wabash. 163-131.

North Central can’t field relays anymore.

Swim5599, Rhyme & CollegeSwimming . . . care to explain?

At least the women offered some hope. Wheaton’s Burt got a ‘B’ cut and Carthage women look to be much improved.

I wouldn’t worry about the Wheaton or Carthage guys. I mean, we already knew Wheaton was depleted. Unfortunately, since the meet was unscored, you really can’t take anything at all away from the results for Wheaton. While Cramer and Mulsoff were way off, at least some of the younger guys swam really well – I think the older guys will come around.

Carthage looked great for long stuff, but unimpressive for sprinting and potential free relays. They have some real distance and stroke/IM studs. Wabash is pretty good.

I’d assess Wheaton after their first scored meet.

@stokes wrote:

Wheaton’s Burt got a ‘B’ cut …

At this point in the season? Congratulations to her!! She must’ve put in some serious training over the summer.

@Rustie Gustie wrote:

@stokes wrote:

Wheaton’s Burt got a ‘B’ cut …

At this point in the season? Congratulations to him!! He must’ve put in some serious training over the summer.

Her. : ) She finaled at NCAA’s last year, but still, great early season swim.

@RhymeAndReason wrote:

Her. : ) She finaled at NCAA’s last year, but still, great early season swim.

My apologies. Since women’s swimming is discussed so little I just assumed it was a guy. Regardless, nice swimming.

Wheaton was swimming tired and a few guys were sick but if you noticed many swimmers didn’t even swim their events, Linn swam the 100 Free but not the 50. Mulsoff swam a 200 IM for only the second time at Wheaton and we all know Cramer, Verner and Morris will do great this year. So don’t worry about their early times.
I was impressed with several of the Freshman such as Bader and Provonsha but they have big shoes to fill with the loss of Hartman, Higgins and Lederhouse.

Wheaton did look a little beat up on the guys side. Cramer was 1:48 in the 200 and only 5:06 in the 500, so an up and down meet for him. They will be ok, I am sure Jon is pounding on them.

I have to say I was pretty impressed with Drake for Carthage this past weekend. 1:56 is a really solid start to the year. Bax was solid in the 50 and 22.0. Schranck is all world, so I am sure he will have a huge year. IN fact I have a feeling he might just win the 200 breast at nationals this year.

As for North Central, I no longer know much about what is going on there. I do wish them the best.

Jon must have decided to score the meet afterall. This from the Wheaton athletics website: link

Wheaton, Ill. – The Thunder men’s and women’s swim teams opened up the 2007-08 season on Saturday with a meet against University of Chicago. The Thunder women defeated the Maroons 112-93 and Chicago defeated the Wheaton men’s team 125-77.

Wabash has one of the best recruit classes this year and on top of that diving was scored which gave Wabash a 32 uncontested points. Not to take away from what Wabash did, they had some great swims (54.54 100Bk, 1:56.15 200 Fly, 52.85 100 Fly). It’s still early to be saying that the CCIW has taken a step backwards, let’s wait and see what happens in February at conference and then in March before there’s judgment. Does anybody know why Wheaton is swimming Chicago twice this season and dual/tri-dual meets. They are, at least on Carthage’s schedule, swimming at Chicago in January.

Well I want to say that Wheaton swam them in a meet early in 2005-2006, and then some swimmers swam at Chicago’s invite that year, and then they might have swum them again that year also.

@Lt. Mitch Buchannon wrote:

Wabash has one of the best recruit classes this year and on top of that diving was scored which gave Wabash a 32 uncontested points. Not to take away from what Wabash did, they had some great swims (54.54 100Bk, 1:56.15 200 Fly, 52.85 100 Fly). It’s still early to be saying that the CCIW has taken a step backwards, let’s wait and see what happens in February at conference and then in March before there’s judgment. Does anybody know why Wheaton is swimming Chicago twice this season and dual/tri-dual meets. They are, at least on Carthage’s schedule, swimming at Chicago in January.

That must be why Jon didn’t score it in the first place.

@stokes wrote:

So much for high expectations.

Let’s wait until we get to some of our invitationals like the Wabash Invite/DePauw Invite, and TYR before we make any judgements.

Being the new kids on the block we tend to see really good swims late November early Decmber around here and once again in mid January.

Remember folks these 19 weeks we get are a marathon not a sprint!

–No One Can Coach Desire

I think there will always be ups and downs for every conf. We might just be down a bit, but that does not mean we do not have some guys and girls who will make some serious noise at conf or nationals. Think about some of these people Marko and Burt on the women’s side. They are both fantastic. When Burt finishes this year she will go down as the best female sprinter in CCIW history. Marko can do just about anything and her mile has just been great over the past 2 years

On the men’s side. Schranck might just be a nat champ this year. Pelka is a stud as well.

I think we just need to be patient with the youngsters their time will come. Think about the people who have left over the past 2 years. The best our conf has ever seen in numerous events.