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    • #12223
      silentp
      Member

      I was wondering if people knew the all time best splits for relays, whether it be at NCAAs, conference meet, or other. I’d like proof of splits, not just “i heard…”, hopefully this could grow and be put under All-Time performances on the site. Here is the very brief list i have, please add to it! (A Top Ten would be ideal)

      50 Back:
      1. 22.56 Latronica (UCSD)
      2. 22.60 Avila (Kenyon)
      3. 22.65 Avila
      4. 22.91 Avila
      5. 22.95 Oglesby (UWEC)
      6. 23.00 McCarthy (Emory)
      7. 23.06 Hunt (Kenyon)

      50 Breast:
      1. 24.45 Boss (Hope)
      2. 24.59 Boss
      3. 24.69 Cole (Denison)

      50 Fly:
      1. 21.23 Duda (Kenyon)
      2. 21.34 Baron (Kenyon)
      3. 21.36 P. Gyorfi (Wheaton)
      4. 21.41 Hake (Emory)

      50 Free:
      1. 19.55 Baron (Kenyon)

      100 Free:
      1. 42.99 C-Brooks (Kenyon)

      200 Free:
      1.

      100 Breast:
      1.

      100 Fly:
      1.

    • #33899
      gccswimmer16
      Member

      I was wondering if people knew the all time best splits for relays, whether it be at NCAAs, conference meet, or other. I’d like proof of splits, not just “i heard…”, hopefully this could grow and be put under All-Time performances on the site. Here is the very brief list i have, please add to it! (A Top Ten would be ideal)

      50 Back:
      1. 22.56 Latronica (UCSD)
      2. 22.60 Avila (Kenyon)
      3. 22.65 Avila
      4. 22.91 Avila
      5. 22.95 Oglesby (UWEC)
      6. 23.00 McCarthy (Emory)
      7. 23.06 Hunt (Kenyon)

      50 Breast:
      1. 24.45 Boss (Hope)
      2. 24.59 Boss
      3. 24.69 Cole (Denison)

      50 Fly:
      1. 21.23 Duda (Kenyon)
      2. 21.34 Baron (Kenyon)
      3. 21.36 P. Gyorfi (Wheaton)
      4. 21.41 Hake (Emory)

      50 Free:
      1. 19.55 Baron (Kenyon)
      2. 19.68 Courage (Grove City)

      100 Free:
      1. 42.99 C-Brooks (Kenyon)
      2. 43.99 Courage (Grove City)

      200 Free:
      1.

      100 Breast:
      1.

      100 Fly:
      1.
      _________________

      Added Courage 50 Free (NCAA 2006 anchor leg 200 Free Relay) and 100 Free (PAC Championships 2006 anchor leg 400 Free Relay).

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    • #33900
      facenorth
      Member

      Wasn’t PGyorfi 43.65 anchoring the 4 free in Atlanta in ’03?

    • #33901
      swim5599
      Member

      Yes Paul was 43.6 in Atlanta. I believe Will Cunningham was 22.9 in the 50 back at his conf meet last year

    • #33902
      silentp
      Member

      50 Back:
      1. 22.56 Latronica (UCSD)
      2. 22.60 Avila (Kenyon)
      3. 22.65 Avila
      4. 22.91 Avila
      5. 22.95 Oglesby (UWEC)
      6. 23.00 McCarthy (Emory)
      7. 23.06 Hunt (Kenyon)

      50 Breast:
      1. 24.45 Boss (Hope)
      2. 24.59 Boss
      3. 24.69 Cole (Denison)

      50 Fly:
      1. 21.23 Duda (Kenyon)
      2. 21.34 Baron (Kenyon)
      3. 21.36 P. Gyorfi (Wheaton)
      4. 21.41 Hake (Emory)

      50 Free:
      1. 19.55 Baron (Kenyon)
      2. 19.68 Courage (Grove City)

      100 Free:
      1. 42.99 C-Brooks (Kenyon)
      2. 43.47 C-Brooks
      3. 43.52 P. Gyorfi (Wheaton)
      4. 43.70 Cole (Denison)
      5. 43.83 C-Brooks
      6. 43.88 C-Brooks
      7. 43.99 Courage (Grove City)
      8. 44.08 Baron (Kenyon)
      9. 44.25 C-Brooks
      10. 44.26 Baron

      200 Free:
      1.

      100 Breast:
      1.

      100 Fly:
      1.

      I added the 100 frees from finals of NCAAs 1999-2006, didn’t check prelims though.

    • #33903
      facenorth
      Member

      I would motion to have each swimmer only be represented by one swim per event. That way MCB doesn’t show up 6 times in the 100 free. That’s just me though.

    • #33904

      @facenorth wrote:

      I would motion to have each swimmer only be represented by one swim per event. That way MCB doesn’t show up 6 times in the 100 free. That’s just me though.

      I suppose the question is, do we want to top 10 swims, or the top 10 swimmers? I say the latter, and I second the motion. But that’s just me. And facenorth.

    • #33905
      Lucy
      Member

      I would suggest that if you really want all the correct splits, contact Dr. Schutt from Kenyon. If you listen to him at the national meet, he has them all in his head and he is dead on. The man is amazing and I promise that his stats are positively correct!

    • #33906
      The Treat
      Member

      @OutsideSmoker27 wrote:

      @facenorth wrote:

      I would motion to have each swimmer only be represented by one swim per event. That way MCB doesn’t show up 6 times in the 100 free. That’s just me though.

      I suppose the question is, do we want to top 10 swims, or the top 10 swimmers? I say the latter, and I second the motion. But that’s just me. And facenorth.

      i agree, although its very impressive that MCB went those times, it’s more interesting to see the other people who went fast. its just like how no one really wants to see the top 10 times from the 200 IM in the world. 1. phelps, 2. phelps, 3. phelps….

      i also agree with contacting dr schutt. he’s probably got a stat sheet that he keeps track of so he can use as a reference during nats. that and i love his accent, which is the voice i would hear when reading his email.

    • #33907
      N Dynamite
      Member

      Gosh, like, someone should just take his picture and use it as their avatar. That’s what I would do. Then you could hear his voice every time you posted. It’s only the best idea ever.

    • #33908
      RadAGator
      Member

      CMS has a page with their top times, including splits…

      http://cms.claremont.edu/varsitysports/swimmingM/top10-men.htm

      A few worth mentioning…

      Andrew Cox 21.83 50 fly
      Kris Behrens 20.14 50 free
      Gary Simon:
      25.10 50 breast,
      55.21 100 breast,
      44.57 100 free
      …had a 48.91 flat start fly (#9 alltime) too but apparently never did the fly leg outside of slower meets.

    • #33909
      facenorth
      Member

      N Dynamite wrote:

      Gosh, like, someone should just take his picture and use it as their avatar. That’s what I would do. Then you could hear his voice every time you posted. It’s only the best idea ever.

      That would be an accent overload and I, for one, would love it! I seem to walk around for months after Nationals saying ‘Mark Courtney Brooks’ in his voice. It’s addicting. This way, we could do it all year round!

    • #33910
      nescacalum
      Member

      100 breast splits (all at NCAA’s)

      Boss, 2001
      54.17
      Zarins, Davis, 2004
      55.27
      Pohorylo, Michael, 2004
      55.31

    • #33911
      swim5599
      Member

      Taylor 55.1 100 breast split.
      Gyorfi 48.2 fly split.

    • #33912
      DonCheadle
      Member

      Not gonna look it up, but Latronica split a 47 in the 100 fly.

      No sense posting splits above these:

      19.8
      44.2
      1:38.0
      23.1 (back)
      25.1 (breast)
      21.6 (fly)
      55.2 (breast)
      48.2 (fly)

      I am certain Matt Johnson never split a 47 in the 100 fly at Nats.

      BTW: this thread is a repeat.

    • #33913
      swim5599
      Member

      Well we could say 21.6 fly split for Byers.

    • #33914
      Mr. Obvious
      Member

      I’ll bet if you ask really nice, maybe a Wabash swimmer would make a copy of the top-splits lists for you. The fastest 25 splits/people are posted on their bulletin board at the pool. Kenyon also has this data.

    • #33915

      Jon Taylor
      55.04 100 breast
      Paul Gyorfi
      19.79 50 free
      48.19 100 fly
      Sam Gyorfi
      19.88 50 Free (Wheaton Invite)

      Those are all of the possibly relevant Wheaton splits. Besides PG’s 100 free of course.

      Mulvihill split a 43 something – it was #4 behind MCB, Born and Gyorfi at some point (maybe still).

      What were Hake and Duda’s fastest 100 fly’s. Duda was 21.32? 50 fly in 2003, prelims.

      Hake was 21.41 50 fly, but as I now recall, jumped on his 100 fly leg last year.

      Gyorfi was
      20.34 – 23.18: 43.52
      but
      21.70 – 23.23: 44.93 in the open event. It was in his head – he lost that race before he even stepped up on the blocks… before the season started even. He just accepted that he could not beat MCB. Not that I wouldn’t have in the same position! He was the faster swimmer that year. Oh well. : p

    • #33916

      Add in 19.55 50, 44.08 100, and 21.34 50 fly for Lloyd Baron. I don’t actually know if those are his best either. Yeah, this is way to hard, get that list. : )

      Aaron Cole
      43.70
      54.71 br
      24.69 50br

      Wes Bennett
      19.75

      Mark Latronica 22.56 50 bk

    • #33917
      Flicka
      Member

      @RhymeAndReason wrote:

      What were Hake and Duda’s fastest 100 fly’s. Duda was 21.32? 50 fly in 2003, prelims.

      Hake was 21.41 50 fly, but as I now recall, jumped on his 100 fly leg last year.

      I think sophomore year Duda and I were in the 47.8-9 range. Not sure if we were ever faster than that. And while I’m sure it doesn’t count, if you add in the glorious -.12 reaction time I think I would have been 47.13 last year. A DQ yes, but I’m still proud of the time.

    • #33918

      @Flicka wrote:

      @RhymeAndReason wrote:

      What were Hake and Duda’s fastest 100 fly’s. Duda was 21.32? 50 fly in 2003, prelims.

      Hake was 21.41 50 fly, but as I now recall, jumped on his 100 fly leg last year.

      I think sophomore year Duda and I were in the 47.8-9 range. Not sure if we were ever faster than that. And while I’m sure it doesn’t count, if you add in the glorious -.12 reaction time I think I would have been 47.13 last year. A DQ yes, but I’m still proud of the time.

      I wish I could have seen that swim – it probably was the second fastest d3 100 fly ever behind Cole, its a pity you jumped. : / But hey, you dominated the event at least : )

    • #33919
      swim5599
      Member

      Was Taylor 55.0, I thought it was 55.16, but I could be wrong.
      Wasn’t Cole 54.3 in Denison’s medley in 1999 also?

      It has been mentioned a bunch of times before but Travis Miller split 1:36.9 on the end of their 8 free relay that one year.

      Francioli may have been about 23.2 50 back split on steven’s points then nat record 200 MR. I think boelk swam fly in those medleys.

    • #33920
      The15mMark
      Member

      50 Back:
      1. 22.56 Latronica (UCSD)
      2. 22.60 Avila (Kenyon)
      3. 22.65 Avila
      4. 22.91 Avila
      5. 22.95 Oglesby (UWEC)
      6. 23.00 McCarthy (Emory)
      7. 23.06 Hunt (Kenyon)

      50 Breast:
      1. 24.45 Boss (Hope)
      2. 24.59 Boss
      3. 24.69 Cole (Denison)

      50 Fly:
      1. 21.23 Duda (Kenyon)
      2. 21.34 Baron (Kenyon)
      3. 21.36 P. Gyorfi (Wheaton)
      4. 21.41 Hake (Emory)

      50 Free:
      1. 19.55 Baron (Kenyon)
      2. 19.68 Courage (Grove City)
      3. 19.74 Hagemeyer (Gustavus)

      100 Free:
      1. 42.99 C-Brooks (Kenyon)
      2. 43.47 C-Brooks
      3. 43.52 P. Gyorfi (Wheaton)
      4. 43.70 Cole (Denison)
      5. 43.83 C-Brooks
      6. 43.88 C-Brooks
      7. 43.99 Courage (Grove City)
      8. 44.08 Baron (Kenyon)
      9. 44.25 C-Brooks
      10. 44.26 Baron
      11. 44.74 Hagemeyer (Gustavus)

      200 Free:
      1.

      100 Breast:
      1.

      100 Fly:
      1.

    • #33921

      50 Back:
      1. 22.56 Latronica (UCSD)
      2. 22.60 Avila (Kenyon)
      3. 22.95 Oglesby (UWEC)
      4. 23.00 McCarthy (Emory)
      5. 23.06 Hunt (Kenyon)
      6. 23.34 Francioli (UW Stevens Point)

      50 Breast:
      1. 24.45 Boss (Hope)
      2. 24.69 Cole (Denison)
      3. 24.94 Zarins (Kenyon)
      4. 24.97 Stevens (UW Stevens Point)
      4. 24.99 Boon (Kenyon)
      5. 25.04 Payne (UC San Diego)
      6. 25.10 Simon (Claremont-Mudd-Scripps)
      6. 25.22 Anderson (UW Stevens Point)

      50 Fly:
      1. 21.23 Duda (Kenyon)
      2. 21.34 Baron (Kenyon)
      3. 21.36 P. Gyorfi (Wheaton)
      4. 21.41 Hake (Emory)
      5. 21.43 Zebelcher (RIT)
      5. 21.63 Vega (Kenyon)

      50 Free:
      1. 19.55 Baron (Kenyon)
      2. 19.68 Courage (Grove City)
      3. 19.74 C-Brooks (Kenyon)
      3. 19.74 Hagemeyer (Gustavus)
      5. 19.75 Benett (Wooster)
      6. 19.76 Cole (Denison)
      7. 19.79 P. Gyorfi (Wheaton)

      100 Free:
      1. 42.99 C-Brooks (Kenyon)
      2. 43.52 P. Gyorfi (Wheaton)
      3. 43.70 Cole (Denison)
      4. 43.99 Courage (Grove City)
      5. 44.08 Baron (Kenyon)
      6. 44.46 Triebe (Wash U)

      200 Free:
      1.

      100 Breast:
      1. 54.11 Boss (Hope)
      2. 54.69 A. Cole (Denison)
      3. 54.99 Payne (UC San Diego)
      4. 55.04 Taylor (Wheaton)
      5. 55.21 Simon (Claremont-Mudd-Scripps)

      100 Fly:
      1. 47.41 Duda (Kenyon)
      2. 47.90 Hake (Emory)
      3. 47.99 Latronica (UC San Diego)
      4. 48.19 P. Gyorfi (Wheaton)
      5. 48.39 Baron (Kenyon)

      _________________

    • #33922
      DonCheadle
      Member

      50 Back:
      1. 22.56 Latronica (UCSD)
      2. 22.60 Avila (Kenyon)
      3. 22.95 Oglesby (UWEC)
      4. 23.00 McCarthy (Emory)
      5. 23.06 Hunt (Kenyon)
      6. 23.34 Francioli (UW Stevens Point)

      50 Breast:
      1. 24.45 Boss (Hope)
      2. 24.69 Cole (Denison)
      3. 24.82 Espinosa (Kzoo)
      4. 24.94 Zarins (Kenyon)
      5. 24.97 Stevens (UW Stevens Point)
      6. 24.99 Boon (Kenyon)
      7. 25.04 Payne (UC San Diego)
      8. 25.10 Simon (Claremont-Mudd-Scripps)
      9. 25.22 Anderson (UW Stevens Point)

      50 Fly:
      1. 21.23 Duda (Kenyon)
      2. 21.34 Baron (Kenyon)
      3. 21.36 P. Gyorfi (Wheaton)
      4. 21.41 Hake (Emory)
      5. 21.43 Zebelcher (RIT)
      5. 21.63 Vega (Kenyon)

      50 Free:
      1. 19.55 Baron (Kenyon)
      2. 19.68 Courage (Grove City)
      3. 19.74 C-Brooks (Kenyon)
      3. 19.74 Hagemeyer (Gustavus)
      5. 19.75 Benett (Wooster)
      6. 19.76 Cole (Denison)
      7. 19.79 P. Gyorfi (Wheaton)

      100 Free:
      1. 42.99 C-Brooks (Kenyon)
      2. 43.52 P. Gyorfi (Wheaton)
      3. 43.70 Cole (Denison)
      4. 43.99 Courage (Grove City)
      5. 44.08 Baron (Kenyon)
      6. 44.46 Triebe (Wash U)

      200 Free:
      1.

      100 Breast:
      1. 54.11 Boss (Hope)
      2. 54.69 A. Cole (Denison)
      3. 54.99 Payne (UC San Diego)
      4. 55.04 Taylor (Wheaton)
      5. 55.21 Simon (Claremont-Mudd-Scripps)

      100 Fly:
      1. 47.41 Duda (Kenyon)
      2. 47.90 Hake (Emory)
      3. 47.99 Latronica (UC San Diego)
      4. 48.19 P. Gyorfi (Wheaton)
      5. 48.39 Baron (Kenyon)
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    • #33923

      I cant find relay splits from the mid-90s, but JHU’s Matt Johnson won the 100 fly with a flat start time of 48.2 in 1997, so I sure there is a 47 split out there. Just cant find it.

      Also, Dave Lofthus was 48.15 in 2003 on JHUs 400 MR.

    • #33924
      DonCheadle
      Member

      @JHUBreaststroke06 wrote:

      I cant find relay splits from the mid-90s, but JHU’s Matt Johnson won the 100 fly with a flat start time of 48.2 in 1997, so I sure there is a 47 split out there. Just cant find it.

      Also, Dave Lofthus was 48.15 in 2003 on JHUs 400 MR.

      I am sure that there is not a 47 split out there for Johnson, atleast not at Nats.

    • #33925

      I remember that Eric Steidinger split about a 19.7 in the 200 FR or 200 MR in the 1993 NCAA’s at Emory. He also had a fast 100 free split. Hopkins guys can start digging for the splits.

      Does a 200 MR of Latronica, Boss, Gyorfi and Cole beat a Kenyon All-Time relay?

      Does a 400 MR of Cunningham, Boss, Cole and Gyorfi beat the Kenyon All-Star Relay? I’m assuming that Cole’s 100 fly split would be pretty quick even if there isn’t one out there.

      Is there then a non-Kenyon 200 and 400 FR that can win?

      What about the All-Time top 18 Non-Kenyon swimmers vs the All-Time Kenyon swimmers in a dual meet? We’re getting closer than ever to having this settled.

      Don’t forget to include the stars of the 1980’s and 1990’s: Seidman (BR), Johnson (Fly), Steidinger, Miller, Flowers, etc.

    • #33926
      swim5599
      Member

      well let’s go with the 200 Mr
      latronica 22.5
      Boss 24.4
      Gyorfi 21.4
      Cole we will say for split sake 19.40
      1:27.7 so yes that would beat that relay

      This is of course give or take the hundreths on each split

    • #33927

      @swim5599 wrote:

      well let’s go with the 200 Mr
      latronica 22.5
      Boss 24.4
      Gyorfi 21.4
      Cole we will say for split sake 19.40
      1:27.7 so yes that would beat that relay

      This is of course give or take the hundreths on each split

      It beats the NCAA record, but does in beat the all-time Kenyon relay (swimmers made up of any team)?

      Does anyone know the time for the 200 MR would be for Kenyon if it was made up of their all time best splits?

    • #33928
      swim5599
      Member

      How about Hunt 23.0
      Zarins 24.8
      Duda 21.2
      Baron 19.5
      1:28.5 is probably as fast as they would ever go, unless someone can confirm that Howell was 19.4

    • #33929

      I didn’t want to be annoying, but Jon Howell was 19.42.

    • #33930
      silentp
      Member

      @swim5599 wrote:

      How about Hunt 23.0
      Zarins 24.8
      Duda 21.2
      Baron 19.5
      1:28.5 is probably as fast as they would ever go, unless someone can confirm that Howell was 19.4

      Considering that is only .3 faster than their actual record, that’s probably wrong. You also used Hunt when the lead off for their record was Avila, who had a best of 22.6 and was under 23.0 several times, as posted earlier in this thread.

    • #33931
      swim5599
      Member

      Yes i forgot about Avila, and I also thought Howell had been 19.4 also. SO that is 6 tenths faster. So about 1:27.9 is fairly accurate.

    • #33932

      @swim5599 wrote:

      How about Hunt 23.0
      Zarins 24.8
      Duda 21.2
      Baron 19.5
      1:28.5 is probably as fast as they would ever go, unless someone can confirm that Howell was 19.4

      i can confirm it. i havent seen or found anyone else splitting something faster.

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