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    • #12562
      silentp
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      On collegeswimming.com they have the top 10 (and include some information on 11-20) recruiting classes for D1 women. I assume D1 men are next to come. I think this is really cool. While it would be hard to do for D3, it’d be neat if in the fall someone was able to compile enough information to do a top 10 recruiting classes list for D3. Might take something of a group effort but it seems like something people on here would be interested in.

    • #37866
      DonCheadle
      Member

      How about last years list?

      1) Kenyon
      2) Hopkins
      3) Kzoo
      4) Hope

      THis is off the top of my head. I have no idea.

    • #37867

      The Hannigan/Millen combo was nice for Williams last year. And what about Emory? They brought in a breaststroker and a flyer last year with Junior Cuts. Not to mention the rest of their crew, you know, the forgotten about 47.0’s and 1:54 IMers. They are certainly up there.

      A couple that may not have come up that deserve mentioning.

      Middlebury.
      MIT.
      Connecticut College.

    • #37868
      N Dynamite
      Member

      Santa Cruz also deserves mention – Drake was a JC transfer. Three of the four guys on their 800 A-cut relay were new (two freshmen and Drake)

    • #37869
      swim5599
      Member

      How about the 2 new guys from Wash U. Weren’t Beyer and Kushner both freshmen this past year?

    • #37870
      silentp
      Member

      For last year, i’d go

      1) Emory
      2) Kenyon
      3) Hopkins
      4) Kzoo (lack depth but have studs)
      5) Williams

    • #37871
      PanDeMonium
      Member

      Luther College had a pretty solid recruiting class last year, on top of the strong base they acquired from years prior.

    • #37872

      @PanDeMonium wrote:

      Luther College had a pretty solid recruiting class last year, on top of the strong base they acquired from years prior.

      Did they send anyone to nats?

      Not trying to be harsh, but I don’t think their recruiting class compares to Emory, Kenyon, Denison, etc, until they start qualifying to nationals too.

    • #37873
      facenorth
      Member

      They had a freshman breaststroker there last year.

    • #37874

      maybe i missed something, but how is Emory’s class #1 last year? Only 1 guy scored individual points and it was 1 consol swim.

      I’d put KC, Zoo and JHU at the top, no particular order. Also Williams with the big trasfer addition.

    • #37875
      Nescacfan
      Member

      For the women, Kenyon had the best class with Arad and Ertel leading the way. Emory was second with Psaris and Westby as the cream of their crop.

    • #37876
      PanDeMonium
      Member

      @RhymeAndReason wrote:

      Did they send anyone to nats?

      Not trying to be harsh, but I don’t think their recruiting class compares to Emory, Kenyon, Denison, etc, until they start qualifying to nationals too.

      I said solid, not THE best, plus worth noting because Luther is a “under the radar” team.

      And yes, there was a breaststroker, but also a few relays had B-cuts who didn’t make it. I know not that big of deal if you are comparing with Kenyon who has a full roster every year, but I’m still thinking Luther will cause a little stir (maybe not huge) in the next few years.

    • #37877

      @JHUBreaststroke06 wrote:

      maybe i missed something, but how is Emory’s class #1 last year? Only 1 guy scored individual points and it was 1 consol swim.

      I’d put KC, Zoo and JHU at the top, no particular order. Also Williams with the big trasfer addition.

      although they didnt score (give them a break its there first year) they were surely one of the top recruits in September. a lot of freshmen changed from august to march, except for dimarco, petroff and yamada. maybe next year…

    • #37878

      I guess my point was that in hindsight we can look back at the season’s results and judge the best class off of production and not just all the hype/talk surrounding freshmen in May-Sept.

      I think evals of the best classes would be great to do in the fall and I would happy to pitch in and do a few. I can take JHU and any other team not reperesented on the boards.

    • #37879

      I did a very quick look at the scoring of freshman at nationals and did a quick top ten. I looked at points scored by freshmen, but also gave some points to those who atleast swam. (I did not look at relays very close) I took into account depth as one or two teams scored well because of one swimmer and you need several to have quality relays. Feel free to pick this apart as I did it quickly.

      Kenyon- Their freshman scored the most points and they have overall depth in multiple events. They will need some 50 and 10 swimmers to anchor future relays.

      Kalamazoo- Paul Ellis and Alfonso Espinosa’s over all perfomances move them up to #2. Their speen in the back and breast will give them a good lead in the medlays for the next 3 years.

      Emory- Freshman did not score many individual points, but they have a lot of depth from the class with the most swimmers swimming individually (four). Two or three guys can out score one and depth is important for relay success. Lots of chances for these kids to move up.

      Hope- They had three freshman swimming individually. Phil Heyboer looks like the most promising of the three. His highest finish was in the 200 back (8th). If he can have a solid 50 and 100 back (other events where 200 and 200 IM) they should have some solid medlays with Ryan Nelis being a solid flyer (12th)

      Wash U.- If I looked at relays closer they might be higher, but they have two solid swimmers to build on for future success and Alex Beyer will be a star for the next three years.

      MIT- Rastislav scored some big points for them and they have a solid flyer in Zhou. They are going to need some freestylers to bust their free relays. They may have the hardest two names in the middle of a medlay relay in the history of DIII.

      John Hopkins- Thomas scores some big points for them (he could have 2nd in the 100 back). His abilities alone move them into this spot. They will need some more depth.

      Conn College- They are under the radar, but may have some potential in the future with two of freshmen swimmers who show some versitlity to help bolster relays.

      UC Santa Cruz- Jamie Johnson swims a solid 500, but is better in teh 200 free. Ben Ferguson has some sprinting ability and can swim well upto the 200 free, which will help their relays.

      Gustavus- Davis was their only freshmen, finished 6th in the mile and 15th in the 500. A great miler, but without front end speed, he will probably only help on the 800 free relay.

    • #37880
      N Dynamite
      Member

      UCSC has to move up with Drake. I’m sure there are many other transfers out there, but he was the most obvious. Otherwise it seems like a pretty acurate list

    • #37881

      I did not know who were transfers, I just went by Freshman.

    • #37882

      Remember that JHU also had Mahoney who made the meet and would have been on 3-4 relays, but was out with apendicitis. 1:42 200 free in Dec though.

      They also had 3 other guys with B cuts who need to improve to help out that class.

      Also you left out Williams who had a good class with Millen transfering.

      otherwise pretty fair.

    • #37883
      silentp
      Member

      To defend my Emory pick, i was going solely on incoming times (and they had at least 2 B cut IMers, plus an at least b cut flyer, and more) so i probably looked at it differently.

    • #37884
      silentp
      Member

      I am sure everyone has seen collegeswimming.com’s top 100 recruits… only 1 d3 swimmer made the list and he’s going to Trinity… 1:39.5, 4:34 and 46.4?, not too shabby.

    • #37885

      @silentp wrote:

      I am sure everyone has seen collegeswimming.com’s top 100 recruits… only 1 d3 swimmer made the list and he’s going to Trinity… 1:39.5, 4:34 and 46.4?, not too shabby.

      1:39.5 is not too shabby? That’s an understatement.

    • #37886
      swim5599
      Member

      Yeah that is pretty good. How many other guys have ever come in under 1:40? I think Boon, Courtney Brooks, and Curtis might be the only ones and I might be wrong on those. Are there others?

    • #37887

      I am not sure how acurate that is. I can think of a kid that should be in the top 100 and is not, if you go by the point system them have.

    • #37888

      @swim5599 wrote:

      Yeah that is pretty good. How many other guys have ever come in under 1:40? I think Boon, Courtney Brooks, and Curtis might be the only ones and I might be wrong on those. Are there others?

      As far as I know, Curtis wasn’t. Brooks was, Boon I donno. He went 1:39.1 as a freshman, so I sorta doubt it.

    • #37889
      silentp
      Member

      @RhymeAndReason wrote:

      @swim5599 wrote:

      Yeah that is pretty good. How many other guys have ever come in under 1:40? I think Boon, Courtney Brooks, and Curtis might be the only ones and I might be wrong on those. Are there others?

      As far as I know, Curtis wasn’t. Brooks was, Boon I donno. He went 1:39.1 as a freshman, so I sorta doubt it.

      Curtis was a 1:40… but that was a big drop because he was a 1:45 his junior year.

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