Amherst @ Williams 1/6/07

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    • #12191
      Nescacfan
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      Men:
      Amherst will be lucky to win 2 or three events. The Williams men should dominate. Scott, Millen, Spinelli, Bonewell and Nolan[diving] should be multiple winners for Williams. The Amherst swimmers with the best chances for an Amherst win are Witzke and Treat.

      Women:
      A toss up. Amherst will probably win more events, but Williams has more depth and strength in diving. Sasser and Stern should be multiple winners for Amherst. I wonder how Coach Kuster will schedule Nicholson. Will she swim the two back events and 200 IM against Amherst’s Sasser? All the swimming events except the two back events [Amherst stronger] and the 200 breast [Williams stronger] should be very close. Van Dueson should sweep the diving. I don’t think the outcome will be decided until the final event, the 400 free relay.

      I expect some very fast times from both teams.

    • #33480
      neswim
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      I think Amherst women outswim Williams and they should be able to win that 400 free relay. I defer to NESCAC superior knowledge of team depth re whether Williams diving can overcome Amherst swimming. Seems like a pretty good chance to break that streak.

    • #33481
      swim5599
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      I think on the women’s side it might be AMherst, but on the men’s it will be Williams. I am really excited to see that this stuf freshmen on Williams does at the end of the year. Are we going to see 2 guys under 4:30 in the 500 on the same team.

    • #33482
      Nescacfan
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      @neswim wrote:

      I think Amherst women outswim Williams and they should be able to win that 400 free relay. I defer to NESCAC superior knowledge of team depth re whether Williams diving can overcome Amherst swimming. Seems like a pretty good chance to break that streak.

      For the Amherst women, Sasser will not be available for the 400 free relay. Stern may be not be available either. That depends upon who swims the 50 free leg of the opening medley relay for Amherst. I wonder if Coach Nichols will go with Sasser, Pettersen, Ramsey and close with Morrison or Pritchard in that event. Sasser should open with a strong back leg [hi 26] and that might be enough of a cushion to keep Stern and Marvel available for the last event.

      Williams FY swimmers Cucolo, Sequeira, Metcalf and soph McIntosh could give Amherst’s [pick 4] Marvel, Ramsey, Kim, Lee, Pritchard, Morrison, and Stern a run for their money.

      As for the diving, back in early December the Middlebury women scored 30 points and Amherst [only one diver]scored 6 in the two events. If the same thing happens at Williams, those 24 points will be hard to overcome. Williams will get at least a 1, 3, 4 in both events and a 20 point advantage. Amherst will probably do the same[1,3,4] to Williams in the two back events, but with three swimmers Williams will pick up the extra point for 5th place. Looking at the two back and diving events together, Williams probably has a around a 10-point advantage to carry into the other events.

    • #33483
      neswim
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      Does Williams have a sprint breaststroker? If not then Amherst can save Stern, Marvel for the last relay.

    • #33484
      Nescacfan
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      @neswim wrote:

      Does Williams have a sprint breaststroker? If not then Amherst can save Stern, Marvel for the last relay.

      I think Amherst’s Pettersen can beat Williams’ Asher[or Metcalf or Cuculo] in the breast sprint. I tend to agree with you that both Marvel and Stern will be available for the final relay.

      The race for third in the opening relay will also be interesting. How much are those two points worth? Lots of choices for both teams. Amherst has the best choices in the back, Williams, in the breast. The other two strokes are pretty close. Overall, I think it may be advantage Williams for third.

      Amherst 11 Wlliams 6 after the first event.

    • #33485
      Morecowbell
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      Amherst Women win. As predicted, it came down to the 400 Free Relay which Amherst won. Unbelievable meet. I haven’t heard a crowd this loud in years. Cheering on both sides well deserved.
      Williams Men dominated from the beginning taking 1-2 in the opening 400 Medley and never looked back. Amherst looked a little off but still, Williams is too deep and very talented.

    • #33486
      Nescacfan
      Member

      The women’s meet was a closely contested, historic contest. Historic in the fact that the Williams’ women had never lost a dual meet at home in the history of the program.

      Looking at the results, the surprises for me were the following:
      Haring’s win and Cheung-Lau’s 2nd in the 200 fly for Amherst
      McCarthy’s win in the 50 free for Williams
      Pritchard’s 2nd place in 100 back for Amherst with a strong “B” cut time
      Ramsey’s 2nd place in 200 free for Amherst
      Cucolo and Asher taking the top two spots for Williams in 100 Breast
      Molen comfortably winning both the 500 and 1000 free for Williams

      Overall, Amherst was able to save Marvel and Stern for the last relay and team them with Pritchard and Kim to win that critical race. Nicholson, Williams’ best swimmer, was pitted against Amherst’s Sasser in her three events, the 1back, 2back and 200 IM.. Sasser swam her best times of the year. Sasser’s backstoke times were the fastest in DIII so far this year. Also, William’s Haley, who was away for the fall semester, is just getting back into shape and did not swim close to her butterfly potential in the meet. William’s first year swimmers Cuculo, Metcalf and Sequeira showed great promise as did Amherst’s Haring and Fitzgerald. Also Amherst’s sole diver, Dorman, deserves some credit for her 2nd and 3rd places.

      The Williams women will continue their dominance at the NESCAC Championships. They have both the star power and the depth in both swimming and diving to beat both Amherst and Middlebury. The score will be closer than in the recent years, but look for the Williams’s women to shine at NESCAC’s.

    • #33487

      Also, the Lord and Lady Jeffs were rested and wearing fastskins — and hadn’t yet gone on their annual training trip.

      The Ephmen and women began their two-a-days two weeks ago, so are pretty broken down.

    • #33488
      silentp
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      Sheesh, these Williams men are REALLY good, and both women’s teams are awesome. Millen is legit and their MR is on it’s way to NCAAs, if that was ever a question after losing D3’s best ever 100 backstroker. SPinelli seems ahead of his usual pace, so that’s a good sign for them. He split that 200 picture perfect. 2 solid swims by Amherst guy’s were overlooked in that race. Scott Norman is looking really good right now. Who goes a 1:56 in a dual meet in the 2fly and gets 3rd?? that’s absurd. 3 guys under 2 in the IM is smokin right now and Ethan Treat is a certified stud.

      I know all the talk is about the “Big 4” (Kenyon, Denison, JHU, and Emory), but they best watch out, Williams could sneak in for a top 4 finish.

    • #33489
      neswim
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      @silentp wrote:

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      I know all the talk is about the “Big 4” (Kenyon, Denison, JHU, and Emory), but they best watch out, Williams could sneak in for a top 4 finish.

      Good question on the men’s side but what about the women’s side?.

      Without Payne don’t see a top 3 finish (1) Kenyon 2) Denison and 3) Emory is the way it looks right now).

      I agree that they win NESCACs but can they finish ahead of Amherst? They beat them by 61 points last year….Amherst is basically returning last year’s team but can Williams make up Payne’s 60 points plus her relay boost? I think not and they finish 5th behind Amherst this year in Houston.

    • #33490
      swim5599
      Member

      SPinelli is going to go 1:39 mid at the end of the year in the 200, that guys is just a stud

    • #33491
      Nescacfan
      Member

      @neswim wrote:

      @silentp wrote:

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      I know all the talk is about the “Big 4” (Kenyon, Denison, JHU, and Emory), but they best watch out, Williams could sneak in for a top 4 finish.

      Good question on the men’s side but what about the women’s side?.

      Without Payne don’t see a top 3 finish (1) Kenyon 2) Denison and 3) Emory is the way it looks right now).

      I agree that they win NESCACs but can they finish ahead of Amherst? They beat them by 61 points last year….Amherst is basically returning last year’s team but can Williams make up Payne’s 60 points plus her relay boost? I think not and they finish 5th behind Amherst this year in Houston.

      I agree with NE Swim that the Amherst women, at this point in the season, are favored over the Williams women at Nationals.

    • #33492
      nescacalum
      Member

      @littlethreefan wrote:

      Also, the Lord and Lady Jeffs were rested and wearing fastskins — and hadn’t yet gone on their annual training trip.

      The Ephmen and women began their two-a-days two weeks ago, so are pretty broken down.

      If you think fastskins decide the outcome in this meet then you don’t really know much about this rivalry. Also, Amherst does two a days (every day as opposed to the 2 doubles they are required to attend throughout the entire season) when they return from Christmas break in late December even though they are not on their training trip yet.

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