Alumni Meet

Nope. Never too early.

I’m thinking Hope has a shot this year with Blohm and Vroegindewey still in fighting shape. But more importantly, if Slagh doesn’t go skiing this year it’ll just be game over. The man has such a presence.

I agree, never too early to talk about ourselves.

Kzoo will likely add Scott Whitbeck, Vic Stover and Joe Waller. We will likely lose Evan Whitbeck, last year’s arguable MVP.

I will take Scott as the MVP if he is able to make it based on the way he swam at the last Masters results i saw.

I give the edge to Hope winning this year, but who knows. Maybe next year, Olivet can begin fielding a team.

I also propose we have all assistant coaches jump in and swim their events, meaning Taber swims the 50, Hamstra the 100, AJP the 200 and Steve Barnes the 1650. The person to get closest to their PR wins!

Events as previously discussed are as follows:

200 Med Relay
100 FR
100 IM
50 FR
(short-break)
50 FLY
50 BK
50 BR
(short-break)
200 FR Relay

also imunna (it means i’m going to) start working on line-ups for this meet, apparently i don’t get enough mock line-up writing w/ fantasy swimming and all the hope duels (duals can we just decide on one spelling and someone let me know) anyway, the point is, how is this thing scored? How many events can we swim?

Also wise order of events aj, knowing i have to (probably without success) defend my miaa alumni meet record setting 50 fly championship and not have me in any freestyle events.

I am also HEAVILY in favor of the 25 freestyle.

Whoops, yeah 50’s of all strokes. We can switch the IM and the 50 order too, to match 13-event dual meet style.

I’ll take care of meet director responsibilities again. Prospective coaches, pm me with your email addresses so I know who’s in charge of what. One coache per team.

Entries:
$2 entry per person.
Anything beyond the $60 to cover lifeguard, timing,etc expenses, will be put towards alumni pre-finals “functions.”
Men and women are invited, all events will be swum mixed, with scores calculated seperate.

**Entries due: Thursday evening. Deck entries accepted after at $5 per person.

Rules and regulations:
No more than 4 entries per person. (max of 2 individuals)
Championship meet style scoring (same as MIAA champs)
Top 3 finishers from each school score.
Meet records are still kept.
Championship trophy presented at the end of the meet. I have one this year.
Meet entries are due to your respective coaches on Thursday Evening of MIAAs. All later “deck” entries will be $5 to enter.

** Tell your respective team mates to get their entries in earlier rather than later. I don’t want to have to take all day Saturday prepping the meet again. I’d like to get as much as I can done before the day of. Coaches, try to have your lineups mostly ready by that time, so we can set them up earlier, and only enter people who are deck entered later.
Relay entries are due Saturday morning.

I’m sure I’ll post more later.

@ajp wrote:

Events as previously discussed are as follows:

200 Med Relay
200 FR * NEW THIS YEAR
50 FR
100 IM
50 FLY
100 FR
50 BK
50 BR
200 FR Relay

And only if P jumps in and swims the 200 Back. Cold Turkey.

I will not swim the 200 back because my sister will be swimming it the following weekend and I do not want any comparisons to be made; I can still take her in the 50.

I would think if we add the 200 free, we could drop the 100 free, just my 1.5 cents.

Some people have mentioned a few changes, so I’ll put em out here. I like the ideas.

Max events: 3 – limits up-chucking by alum
Drop the 100 Free: keep the 200, 50s of stroke, and the 100 IM.

All extra $$ proceeds go to post-alumni-meet functions.

Add a 25 free, but to qualify for entry you have to be over the age of 25. Thoughts…

This dropping of the 100 in favor of the 200 is slightly ludicrous. I know it would be quite comical to have old guys try and do 8 lengths in a row (in a row!) but is that really worth it?

We could just have an honest discussion amongst us, see who is in the best shape, and give him/her the title of 200 free without having to embarrass the others.

@quacker wrote:

This dropping of the 100 in favor of the 200 is slightly ludicrous. I know it would be quite comical to have old guys try and do 8 lengths in a row (in a row!) but is that really worth it?

We could just have an honest discussion amongst us, see who is in the best shape, and give him/her the title of 200 free without having to embarrass the others.

Seriously…as old fat men, we should be embarassed if we can finish a 200.

I’d say drop the 200, add the 25 free, keep the 100 free, and make sure you also add “Plunge for Distance”

I aim to please. Whatever you guys decide on, is what we’ll go with.

I’m game for the 100 or 200. I don’t think we need the 25 or the plunge.

Unless I manage to start training more, the 200 will NOT be my event, but I do like the idea of having it. Maybe because we can always get a Whitbeck to stay in shape and do something spectacular. Or, get Jud to come out of retirement and go faster than any of his NCAA times (as long as Slaugh is there).

We need coaches to volunteer for the alumni meet, and to be the point person for each team. Msg me in the forums, or send and email to alumnimeet@ajp.net

Once again, all entries for the alumni meet are due to your coaches or to myself by Thursday, February 8, the Thursday evening of MIAAs.

Make sure you enter by then and cost is $2. If you sign up later, it’s $5.

did we ever decide on which events we’ll have this time around? basically are we doing a 200 and the 100free or just the 100 or just the 200?

thanks

Just the 100 free, like last year.

MIAA Alumni Meet flyer is posted.
Contains all relevat information.

http://ajp.net/files/flyer.pdf

Email or msg me for questions.

Thanks!

I broke away from my psycho brother just long enough to check out D3 swimming.

AJP you have way to much time on your hands….it’s an alumni meet. I would suggest tutoring Mr Toll instead of making a poster for the alumni meet. That would be a bigger impact for the great institution you assistant coach for.

Sorry Jack. Just like you, some things are out of even my control
You had to shoot Curtis, it’s ok. I forgive you, but I don’t have the luxury of shooting those who get in my way.

@JackBauer wrote:

AJP you have way to much time on your hands….it’s an alumni meet. I would suggest tutoring Mr Toll instead of making a poster for the alumni meet. That would be a bigger impact for the great institution you assistant coach for.

Jack, is that really the best you’ve got? The “too much time on your hands,” line. Seriously, I have heard that a million times. Nice dig on Toll, a bit obvious, yes, but none the less I’ll give you credit for it. Anyhow, thanks for doing all of this AJ, I wish that I could be there.

I’m sorry for putting my fellow Senior Hornets at such a severe handicap, but I will not be able to attend this year’s meet. I’ve got a Saturday morning class in Chitown and won’t be able to get out of it and make it across the big lake in time (Duck won’t lend me his private helicoptor). Coach Arce is just going to have to find some other non-backstroker to lead off the B medley relay.

oh hey jack bauer, you are killing me. Some of us wait for the dvd (digital video digital) of 24 to come out ot watch it. Don’t worry though, you haven’t ruined all the cliffhangers in the first couple episodes yet………

The RCMP was able to procure this document

Looks like some records are going down.

What’s really funny to me is that Brad Dotson swam in that meet. Did he quit at Michigan? Anybody know? I still think he would have fared way better in a league like the MIAA. He might have been the fastest freshman in the 50 coming in the MIAA had ever had…can anyone confirm or deny that? I think Dotson was a 21.2 his senior year at Jenison.

@The Boss wrote:

The RCMP was able to procure this document

Looks like some records are going down.

Wow, 22.4 by Waller? That’s impressive.

those are some great times, good to see!

so guys I was thinking, after the alumni meet and I lose my 100 fly record (I am so out of shape its embarassing) I have to change my signature. What I am asking is y’all keep your eyes open and your minds turning for another good one, i’m sure i will do something to make a fool out of myself, be ready to let me know how.

will pfau even be able to fit into a suit this year?? last I saw him he was looking a little rough. I’ll bring a 36 for you buddy no worries!

@BuddytheElf wrote:

will pfau even be able to fit into a suit this year?? last I saw him he was looking a little rough. I’ll bring a 36 for you buddy no worries!

What’s with all the personal attacks lately? And by people who are keeping their identity unknown.

last year mostly everyone looked out of shape and rough…kurtz puking throughout the meet, boss losing to kurtz, the 100 free, the calvin, hope and kalamazoo alumni teams.

if buddy the elf is going to set the standard for fitness then i say we add in the 200 free just for him, or better yet the 500 or mile……i’m sure someone would take up his fitness challenege.

@maverick wrote:

i’m sure someone would take up his fitness challenege.

gee maverick, I wonder who would do that.

not it….

@maverick wrote:

last year mostly everyone looked out of shape and rough…kurtz puking throughout the meet, boss losing to kurtz, the 100 free, the calvin, hope and kalamazoo alumni teams.

if buddy the elf is going to set the standard for fitness then i say we add in the 200 free just for him, or better yet the 500 or mile……i’m sure someone would take up his fitness challenege.

I don’t know if that’s a fair challenge… Some of us could barely do a 200 or 500 when we were “in shape”

any kzoo guys who haven’t gotten back to me about swimming in the meet need to do so asap or else you’ll be paying $5 and swimming the distance events!

your “coach”

I know it hasn’t even started yet, but those of us who couldn’t make it to this prestigious meet this year are going to demand results! How long before someone can get the results posted?

They’ll be posted right after the meet is completed, under the alumni section on http://jenisonaquatics.org/miaa.htm

ajp, your prompt response is a great indication!!!

GO ZOO!!!

http://jenisonaquatics.org/MIAA/2007/Results_Alumni.htm

hope dominated, winning every event except mine….doh! Looks like I have to change my signature. BTW apparently I was ex in the 50 fly, brad nordon won (he wasn’t there, though I think chris dattels swam that for him) and kurt blohm who swam the 50 back wasn’t even listed, crazy.

Meet MVP goes to Jeff vroegindewey, three 21 points, 3 alumni meet records, what a fighter.

I may not have won, but nobody else was this consistent:

100 IM in 2006:
4 Jansen, Derek KZOO NT 58.70 3
27.79 30.91

100 IM in 2007:
4 Jansen, Derek KZOO NT 58.64
27.79 30.85

50 Fly in 2006:
5 Jansen, Derek KZOO NT 26.38 2

50 Fly in 2007:
5 Jansen, Derek KZOO NT 26.45

Thanks for everybody who came out to the alumni meet.

There were a couple seeding mix-ups, as you all know, so if you want to fix those, let me know which times were yours and I’ll get an updated results set posted.

Thanks for making it fun.

Special thanks to the coaches for getting things to me early, so I could warm up and get smoked in the 100, with Slagh extending his 100% AJP defeat streak into the after years.

Anywho. Way to go all. 50+ people was a riot. Next year, Olivet is rumored to be joining us.

So did any members of the 30-and-over age group dare to compete this year? Where was Miller???

Tom Pitt, asst coach at Albion, and class of ’88 I believe.

Last year Ken Mange, class of ’84 from calvin, I believe, was ranking old-timer.

@Milhouse wrote:

So did any members of the 30-and-over age group dare to compete this year? Where was Miller???

I was in Detroit. Next year I’m in.

I don’t know if this legitimizes the meet or should make us want to puke.
http://www.collegeswimming.com/meet/2853/

Hey, I am an alumni from the WIAC and was browsing and saw the results so i figured i would check it out. First off how long has this meet been going on and is it just done saturday between sessions or how does it work? It sounds very interesting, we had a relay swim after the Point Invite a few weeks ago and it was a lot of fun, and there could be enough interest to make something happen next year.[/list]

History of the alumni meet…

Hope has been doing this “in-between Saturday sessions” alumni meet for 7 years now. At the time, a handful of us “old guys” wanted to get back into the pool and see how we would do. We started by having everyone, which was roughly eight of us in the first year, swim every event (uh, we were a little younger then…) and took culmulative times to figure out a “champ”. As most of us original paticipants got older and even more out of shape in the subsequent years (and it helped when we started having more participants), we started picking and choosing teams and events (playground b-ball style…), and the meet started to more closely resemble what it is today.

Then last year, thanks in part to Facenorth and AJP (I apologize if anyone else played a part in this and I’m not giving him his due credit…), the alumni meet went league-wide. AJP was the meet director/comissioner (a title he still holds…). He entered names into the system and started keeping track of the records and made sure it was well-run. AJP has done a great job with the meet both of these past two years and it’s been a lot of fun.

K-zoo won in the first year, but Hope took home the trophy this year.

It just kind of started as this dumb thing some of us guys started doing and has snowballed since. That pretty much sums it up. Now it will be interesting to see how the alumni meet continues to evolve…

@aquaholic wrote:

I don’t know if this legitimizes the meet or should make us want to puke.
http://www.collegeswimming.com/meet/2853/

Definitely both. 🙂

the bro pretty much got it right. As the only really enthusastic alumni at Calvin, I was pretty jealous of the Hope guys throwing their meet 2 years ago, and knew that there would be plenty of Kzoo guys interested.

So, since we were hosting the meet last year, I tossed the idea around with Facenorth about having a league wide alumni meet. Last year was a great success, and this year we had aroudn 50+ people.

I expect next year it’ll be even better. Maybe it’ll cause some of us old farts to get in shape a bit for it.

I thought that the meet was a lot of fun. Thanks again, AJP, for organizing everything! The meet was well run, which really made a difference.

@maverick wrote:

last year mostly everyone looked out of shape and rough…kurtz puking throughout the meet

Kurtz continued the tradition and puked again this year. And I don’t think he was alone this time, either.

And with Miller and Turtle out this year, I was the oldest (legit) K alum. What the heck?!

I joined Kurtz in the yak-fest this year. Hot dogs, even if 3 hours before, are a bad idea.

i’ll stake my claim to tubbiest alum in next years meet.. if i couldn’t get rid of my beer gut and lovehandles during the season, i’m not going to hold out much hope that they will disappear now that i’m retired and drinking season has begun..

hey, aj, taber and I went to taco bell 90 minutes before that and apparently taber had 2 hotdogs before that, and we didn’t throw, of course taber fat so theres that.

Yeah, but you had more time to warm up, and didn’t swim anything over a 50. The meet director was directing and got shafted on warmup time.
My 50 after my 100 was a disaster, but I still beat stiles.

I think it is pretty obvious that AJP and Stiles have one of those angry love attractions. They should have [ something funny was written here but somebody took it the wrong way ] and get it over with.

Excuses, excuses, excuses. I had to organize the meet, blah blah blah. It is typical that a calvin swimmer would do something like that. I am sure you are still making excuses for back in college when you couldn’t win then. Did you have to organize the meet when Knox and JD were whipping you all over the pool in 01, 02, and 03?? The tradition kept up when SixBags jumped the relay at the time trial. I was going to hold my tongue bec you did a lot of work for the meet, but you struck a chord.

Congrats to you for beating me. Congrats for the low blows.

Also, DC, I would have expected more from you than a crass sex joke.

both of you.

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@stiles wrote:

Also, DC, I would have expected more from you than a crass sex joke.

Why? I thought it was funny. I certainly didn’t mean anything by it.

BTW: Stiles I too am a huge Harry Potter fan (really).

Don’ you love it how stiles always presents himself with class and dignity?

Oh, and just to be clear, I am not absolving anybody else in the conversation, but stiles, your post was profound.

maybe it wasn’t the most tactful, or polite point, but lets me honest, at this point would we expect any other type of post from stiles. Stiles, i’m not knocking you at all, my point is, if you didn’t post like you do I think i would be more dissapointed.

hotdogs are delicious and nutritious. furthermore, i used to always eat them before meets. Granted, i wasnt the fastest but i did alright. I’ve never booted as a result of swimming either.

His focus was exactly where it should have been.

Couldn’t have said it better bro…