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September 27, 2006 at 8:20 pm #11979
JHU84
MemberBefore they had 5 relays it was not uncommon for someone from a team to swim all 3 relays in the finals. So has anyone done this since they had 5 relays – Test may have from JHU – can someone confirm and are there others. Not 5 relays at the meet but 5 that finished in the top 16.
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September 27, 2006 at 8:24 pm #30719
swim5599
MemberWell both Sam and Paul Gyorfi did it. In fact Sam just did it this past year.
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September 27, 2006 at 8:54 pm #30720
Nescacfan
MemberIn the 2005 Lindsay Payne of Williams swam in all 5 relay finals and the relays came in 4th, 1st, 1st, 12th and 3rd.
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September 27, 2006 at 8:56 pm #30721
silentp
MemberI actually believe quite a few swimmers have done it at NCAAs but almost no one does it at their conference meet. It really helps to improve 1/4 of your relay when that individual likely would not score in his/her 3rd event.
Also, when a relay makes it in and the team doesn’t have many guys, someone with only 1 or 2 individual swims would do all 5 relays to try to get the team a few more points.
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September 27, 2006 at 9:33 pm #30722
fr0gman
MemberLloyd Baron did it his senior year and I believe they won all five. It was the year the meet was in Buffalo.
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September 27, 2006 at 11:56 pm #30723
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September 28, 2006 at 12:40 am #30724
DonCheadle
MemberNotably: Ken Heiss did it in 1998.
Lots of guys that aren’t scorers do it. Probably happens every year.
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September 28, 2006 at 12:53 am #30725
JHU84
Member@DonCheadle wrote:
Notably: Ken Heiss did it in 1998.
Lots of guys that aren’t scorers do it. Probably happens every year.
give an example of non scorer that did it – you have to be pretty good/versitile to be on 5 relays.
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September 28, 2006 at 12:58 am #30726
screeeeeeeeech
MemberJon Howell split 19.42…
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September 28, 2006 at 1:02 am #30727
silentp
Member@JHU84 wrote:
@DonCheadle wrote:
Notably: Ken Heiss did it in 1998.
Lots of guys that aren’t scorers do it. Probably happens every year.
give an example of non scorer that did it – you have to be pretty good/versitile to be on 5 relays.
Sam Gyorfi, Wheaton… you don’t have the be that versatile, just a sprinter.
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September 28, 2006 at 1:06 am #30728
JHU84
Member@silentp wrote:
@JHU84 wrote:
@DonCheadle wrote:
Notably: Ken Heiss did it in 1998.
Lots of guys that aren’t scorers do it. Probably happens every year.
give an example of non scorer that did it – you have to be pretty good/versitile to be on 5 relays.
Sam Gyorfi, Wheaton… you don’t have the be that versatile, just a sprinter.
OK lets go with big finals not banana heat – now how many make it just to keep the convesation active not to knock anyone.
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September 28, 2006 at 1:08 am #30729
JHU84
Member@JHU84 wrote:
@silentp wrote:
@JHU84 wrote:
@DonCheadle wrote:
Notably: Ken Heiss did it in 1998.
Lots of guys that aren’t scorers do it. Probably happens every year.
give an example of non scorer that did it – you have to be pretty good/versitile to be on 5 relays.
Sam Gyorfi, Wheaton… you don’t have the be that versatile, just a sprinter.
OK lets go with big finals not banana heat – now how many make it just to keep the convesation active not to knock anyone.
reason is you need to be at a stud school to final all relays AND in order to make all relays you need to be best sprinter/vesitile and can go a 200. There are a lot of 50 guys that can’t go 142 in the 200
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September 28, 2006 at 1:51 am #30730
silentp
Member@JHU84 wrote:
@silentp wrote:
@JHU84 wrote:
@DonCheadle wrote:
Notably: Ken Heiss did it in 1998.
Lots of guys that aren’t scorers do it. Probably happens every year.
give an example of non scorer that did it – you have to be pretty good/versitile to be on 5 relays.
Sam Gyorfi, Wheaton… you don’t have the be that versatile, just a sprinter.
OK lets go with big finals not banana heat – now how many make it just to keep the convesation active not to knock anyone.
Wheaton did make the top 8 in all the relays last year, so Sam Gyorfi would be my final answer Regis.
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September 28, 2006 at 3:09 pm #30731
DonCheadle
MemberI misread the question. I see now that he asked “swim 5 relays in finals.” Yeah, that doesn’t happen alot. People do swim 5 relays every year, but that was not what he was asking
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September 29, 2006 at 8:19 pm #30732
swim5599
MemberYeah like I said before above that Sam did it this past year and he was 8th in the 50 and 10th in the 100 free I believe.
Paul did it and he ended up 2nd in the 100 fly to Duda, and 2nd in the 100 free to Courtney-Brooks.
Yes I believe that Howell’s 19.4 is the fastest split in history
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September 29, 2006 at 8:28 pm #30733
Vic
MemberRead Boon did it in 2002, and all of the relays won.
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September 30, 2006 at 9:37 pm #30734
Its all an ACT
MemberWill Sutor from Gustavus did it a couple of years back, I know 4 relays were in the top 8, they might have had all five. He was second in the 100 fly that year.
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October 5, 2006 at 4:56 am #30735
Kenalum
MemberI was watching in the stands in 2005 in Michigan that year and I remember Sutor getting All-American in all 5 relays that year–I think he was the only one to do that in that year. How many other times has someone FOR SURE placed in the top 8 in all 5 relays? I also remember Gustavus barely missing a touchout of Kenyon in the 200 Free Relay and Sutor just missing a win in the Fly just like Anderson of UWSP last year in the 100 Breast.
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October 5, 2006 at 8:33 pm #30736
swim5599
MemberI would have to look back but if Wheaton’s 800 FR was top 8 the year that Paul Gyorfi was a senior then he was one who did it for sure. I think however that they may have been 10th in that relay. He was 2nd to Duda in the 100 fly 48.6 for Duda 49.0 for Gyorfi, and he was second in the 100 free 44.8 to COurtney BRooks who was 44.4 I believe. Their 200 FR, 200 MR, 400 FR, and 400 MR were all top 8.
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