Nats, Who Ya Got?

What do you predict for nationals? Who is going to shine, who is not?

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Nats, Who Ya Got?

Post by Nasty Natti » Tue Feb 17, 2015 1:42 pm

Kenyon looks to be the favorite, but I'm taking Denison. Also I've got Flemming having a huge meet.
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Post by N Dynamite » Mon Feb 23, 2015 2:58 pm

Denison - diving will be too much for Kenyon to make up
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Post by Towel42 » Mon Feb 23, 2015 3:15 pm

This isn't very precise since it doesn't account for swimmers with more than 3 top 16 times but here's what I have for number of top 16 times by teams (excluding the 1000):

Kenyon: 32
Emory: 19
Denison: 19
Williams: 16
MIT: 10
JHU: 9
NYU: 9

Does anyone have guesses for numbers of swimmers per team?

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Post by Towel42 » Mon Feb 23, 2015 10:12 pm

And on the women's side...

Emory: 38
Denison: 28
Williams: 24
Kenyon: 21
Johns Hopkins: 10

(Again, not counting for the swimmers with more than 3 top 16s.)

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Post by openwater » Tue Feb 24, 2015 8:03 am

The uncut entries list is posted on USA swimming. Teams need to cut down to 18 swimmers (if that is a problem) today I think. Then there will be a bit more shuffling to deal the diver entries (Denison may be the only team having to deal with this and their 18 entry limit).
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Post by swimming2008 » Tue Feb 24, 2015 8:49 am

Does Denison have to cut down to 18 or 17?

I would assume 17 swimmers to account for a diver(s) being selected this weekend. If that is the case, what happens if Denison cuts down to 17 swimmers and none of their divers make the meet...

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Post by openwater » Tue Feb 24, 2015 9:09 am

swimming2008 wrote:Does Denison have to cut down to 18 or 17?

I would assume 17 swimmers to account for a diver(s) being selected this weekend. If that is the case, what happens if Denison cuts down to 17 swimmers and none of their divers make the meet...
I think they have to cut to 18 now and then after divers qualify, they have to cut again appropriately to accommodate their qualifying divers.
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Post by accountwiz » Tue Feb 24, 2015 9:16 am

Any idea where the line will be drawn for invites? When will the official invite list come out? Seems like the pysch sheet came out pretty quickly.

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Post by Elm » Tue Feb 24, 2015 9:32 am

How is the entry list generated? I've noticed a few top 16 omissions. Will it be updated before selections are made?

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Re: Nats, Who Ya Got?

Post by Towel42 » Tue Feb 24, 2015 9:35 am

Elm, they might not be swimming those events. No entries can be added at this point. And it doesn't look like Denison will have to worry about the team cap, I count 15 swimmers making it for them, so they'd need 10 divers to qualify in order for it to be an issue.

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Re: Nats, Who Ya Got?

Post by openwater » Tue Feb 24, 2015 9:36 am

Elm wrote:How is the entry list generated? I've noticed a few top 16 omissions. Will it be updated before selections are made?
Entries were due at 8pm last night. I think that swimmers that are not on the list are not entered in the meet for any number of reasons.
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Re: Nats, Who Ya Got?

Post by openwater » Tue Feb 24, 2015 9:38 am

Towel42 wrote:Elm, they might not be swimming those events. No entries can be added at this point. And it doesn't look like Denison will have to worry about the team cap, I count 15 swimmers making it for them, so they'd need 10 divers to qualify in order for it to be an issue.
Thanks - I didn't count up the Denison swimmers, I just assumed that because they have so many good divers, they might have had a cap problem.
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Re: Nats, Who Ya Got?

Post by openwater » Tue Feb 24, 2015 9:39 am

accountwiz wrote:Any idea where the line will be drawn for invites? When will the official invite list come out? Seems like the pysch sheet came out pretty quickly.

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I think we know on Thursday.
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Re: Nats, Who Ya Got?

Post by wiswimdad » Tue Feb 24, 2015 10:04 am

Another good question is this:

Why are there swimmers listed that don't have even a B cut time in the event or even a relay that is top 16? Why would a coach submit that?

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Re: Nats, Who Ya Got?

Post by Scooter87 » Tue Feb 24, 2015 10:06 am

If a swimmer gets selected individually in one event they can swim two other individual events, even without a cut. That is why you see some of those entries.

For relays with top 16 you never know what is going to happen. Sometimes drug tests can take a relay team out of the meet, team suspension, etc. If you make the relay B cut it would be foolish NOT to enter into the meet.

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