Nationals 2010

What do you predict for nationals? Who is going to shine, who is not?

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Nationals 2010

Post by Meistro » Wed Apr 01, 2009 9:49 pm

Has anybody heard where it will be hosted next year and if they will combine the men and women again?

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Re: Nationals 2010

Post by DonCheadle » Mon Apr 06, 2009 5:11 pm

I am pretty sure that it would only be speculation at this point. So Iwill speculate that i will be at Calvin COllege' new facilities in Grand Rapids Michigan.
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Re: Nationals 2010

Post by ajp » Thu Apr 16, 2009 1:57 pm

We don't have enough seats to host nationals, not that I would be opposed if we did.

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Re: Nationals 2010

Post by skutbe01 » Thu Apr 16, 2009 5:29 pm

ajp wrote:We don't have enough seats to host nationals, not that I would be opposed if we did.
Really?! Is there any reason your AD/coach/whoever chose not to? The new facility looks amazing and would be a great central location (except for the few from the west coast).
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Re: Nationals 2010

Post by Colbybr » Fri Apr 17, 2009 1:45 pm

Why would you put a lot of seats in there just to host nationals every few years? Having a little bit cozier stands will make for much louder and exciting dual meets.
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Re: Nationals 2010

Post by DonCheadle » Fri Apr 17, 2009 2:54 pm

Colbybr wrote:Why would you put a lot of seats in there just to host nationals every few years? Having a little bit cozier stands will make for much louder and exciting dual meets.
A fair question. I think the answer is something like this: if you build a $5M Nat that is only good for dual meets, you basically get nothing back monitarily for the investment. I don't know how much an extra 800 seats would cost, but I am sure it is a small fraction compared to the $5M. Add 800 seats (I am assuming there are 500 seats already so this brings the total to 1,300) so that the Nat can host larger events and get some money (not much).

I really don't know how it works. Would the Grand Rapids visotirs and convention bureau pay Calvin college $50K to host two weekends of national championships? That is only like $20 per head, a good deal no doubt.
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Re: Nationals 2010

Post by Rustie Gustie » Sun Apr 19, 2009 10:52 pm

I may have dreamed it up, but I swear the banner hanging in the University of Minnesota pool this year said it was hosting both the 2009 and 2010 championships. I think that collegeswimming.com has a photo of it on their site somewhere.
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Re: Nationals 2010

Post by silentp » Mon Apr 20, 2009 9:23 am

Rustie Gustie wrote:I may have dreamed it up, but I swear the banner hanging in the University of Minnesota pool this year said it was hosting both the 2009 and 2010 championships. I think that collegeswimming.com has a photo of it on their site somewhere.
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Re: Nationals 2010

Post by skutbe01 » Mon Apr 20, 2009 11:24 am

Colbybr wrote:Why would you put a lot of seats in there just to host nationals every few years? Having a little bit cozier stands will make for much louder and exciting dual meets.
It would also open up the possibility to host club meets (Zones, Sectionals, etc.), maybe? It just seems like most coaches would be thinking about hosting big meets to show off their new pool.
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Re: Nationals 2010

Post by ajp » Tue Apr 21, 2009 4:58 pm

We can already host state meets, club meets, sectionals, etc, if the opportunity arrives.
As mentioned, the finances were not in place to have a mostly empty natatorium for every other meet we ever host.

MIAAs will be great, and that was our benchmark for when the facility was built. The school is not concerned with hosting anything much bigger.

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Re: Nationals 2010

Post by skutbe01 » Wed Apr 22, 2009 3:32 am

ajp wrote:As mentioned, the finances were not in place to have a mostly empty natatorium for every other meet we ever host.
Does this mean that you charge for duel meets? Do any other teams charge for duel meets? Just wondering on this.
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Re: Nationals 2010

Post by Derek » Wed Apr 22, 2009 9:45 am

skutbe01 wrote:
ajp wrote:As mentioned, the finances were not in place to have a mostly empty natatorium for every other meet we ever host.
Does this mean that you charge for duel meets? Do any other teams charge for duel meets? Just wondering on this.
I don't know the answer to your question (although I think the answer is no), but it seems like he's saying that the expense for dual meets is considered okay because the school values that competition - in other words, the value the school places on dual meets justifies the expense up to a certain point. And for MIAAs, local meets, etc., yes, they will charge pool usage fees. They'd better not charge for the MIAA alumni meet though! I'm sure they could make a lot more money by hosting nationals than by hosting MIAAs, but out of 365 days a year, if the pool can only charge national-style prices for 5-8 days a year, then the pool had better meet their needs the rest of the year. Build it too big, and you'll never make your money back or meet your value expectations.

Not sure if any of that made sense.

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Re: Nationals 2010

Post by HOOSIER77 » Sun Jun 07, 2009 9:27 am

It's now June. Is there any news about potential sites for NCAA's 2010? Will it be combined again?

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Re: Nationals 2010

Post by HOOSIER77 » Tue Jul 28, 2009 3:03 pm

NCAA is meeting in Indianapolis as we speak. Anyone got their ear to the ground about potentional sites? Is Minneapolis still a possibility?

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Re: Nationals 2010

Post by lapdog » Wed Jul 29, 2009 3:11 pm

On collegeswimming.com yesterday, an article on the NCAA meeting mentioned that U Minn had previously submitted a bid for the 2009-2010 DIII meet. The same article predicted that the DIII meet would again be combined.

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