Men's [now]official psyche sheet

What do you predict for nationals? Who is going to shine, who is not?

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Men's [now]official psyche sheet

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Post by oldswimnfool » Wed Feb 28, 2007 6:07 pm

I couldn't pull up from that site but I was able to find it here.
http://ncaaswim.com/pdf/07_m3_un_ps.pdf

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Post by neswim » Wed Feb 28, 2007 8:22 pm

Looks like an absolute dog fight for the top three positions. Its so evenly matched, and enough other teams to scoop up points, that I wouldn't be surprised if the champion scores LESS than 400 points.

Eyeballing the unofficial sheet looks like Denison has a slight edge but then again I suspect that the Emory relays will score higher than indicated on the psyche sheet and that non-sprint Kenyon swimmers will place higher than indicated.

I don't see any favorite among the Big Three ...the winner will be the team that wants it more than anyone else since I'm pretty convinced that all three coaches will have their teams phyiscally ready and no one team looks to me as if they can overpower the competition.

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Post by wickedfoolish » Wed Feb 28, 2007 10:36 pm

denison has a power on the relays, but they have 8 maybe 9 possible scorers. if they pull something off, its gonna be a miracle.
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Post by openwater » Wed Feb 28, 2007 10:38 pm

Quick trip through the psyche sheet:

19 rows of individual qualifiers = exactly 140 swimmers
12 rows of relays = exactly 63 relay only swimmers

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Post by chunkybearcub137 » Thu Mar 01, 2007 12:41 am

how many relays do they take?

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Post by N Dynamite » Thu Mar 01, 2007 1:48 am

openwater wrote:Quick trip through the psyche sheet:

19 rows of individual qualifiers = exactly 140 swimmers
12 rows of relays = exactly 63 relay only swimmers

your mileage may vary.
Hey, thanks. Sorry I was so far off: :roll:
N Dynamite on Monday, 2/26 wrote:I followed the NCAA guidelines - 140 individuals / 63 relay only swimmers. I'm not messing with the 22 divers - I'll leave that up to everyone else. I was able to fill line 19...
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N Dynamite on Monday, 2/26 wrote:By the way - I know it seems like a lot of relays (11 in each)...I ended up with only 63 relay only swimmers, which is the sub-cap for the relays, after all relays got in at line 11
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Post by openwater » Thu Mar 01, 2007 7:59 am

N Dynamite wrote:
openwater wrote:Quick trip through the psyche sheet:

19 rows of individual qualifiers = exactly 140 swimmers
12 rows of relays = exactly 63 relay only swimmers

your mileage may vary.
Hey, thanks. Sorry I was so far off: :roll:
N Dynamite on Monday, 2/26 wrote:I followed the NCAA guidelines - 140 individuals / 63 relay only swimmers. I'm not messing with the 22 divers - I'll leave that up to everyone else. I was able to fill line 19...
and
N Dynamite on Monday, 2/26 wrote:By the way - I know it seems like a lot of relays (11 in each)...I ended up with only 63 relay only swimmers, which is the sub-cap for the relays, after all relays got in at line 11
Dr. Dynamite did a GREAT job on Monday. By my accounting adding Row 12 of relays added 2 relay only swimmers (Meyer-UWSP and Gallgaher TCNJ) - the 2 needed to get to 63.
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Post by swim5599 » Thu Mar 01, 2007 4:34 pm

ANyone notice that Ginder is listed down at the bottom as NT in the 500. I know he swam this event his freshmen year, any chance he actually swims this thing.

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Post by openwater » Thu Mar 01, 2007 4:51 pm

swim5599 wrote:ANyone notice that Ginder is listed down at the bottom as NT in the 500. I know he swam this event his freshmen year, any chance he actually swims this thing.
I did not notice. That's REALLY interesting because (a) you are not allowed to enter a NT in a National Meet, (b) he only has 2 other individual events so means to be in this event I think, and therefore (c) if he is shuffled up into his rightful location in the 500 that will mean they need to go into row 20 to find the 140th individual swimmer.

Must be why coaches have 48 hours to make corrections between Wednesday and Friday.
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Post by Chris Knight » Thu Mar 01, 2007 5:03 pm

He wasn't entered in NT as strategic posturing, he really hasn't swum it in 3 years.
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Post by nemesis enforcer » Thu Mar 01, 2007 5:05 pm

you are not allowed to enter a NT in a National Meet

i'm pretty sure you can if it is a bonus swim, because there was a NT seed last year in the 50, but why would you enter an event you haven't swam?
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Post by swim5599 » Thu Mar 01, 2007 5:27 pm

Any chance he just goes all 5 relays?

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Post by openwater » Thu Mar 01, 2007 5:35 pm

swim5599 wrote:Any chance he just goes all 5 relays?
Their relays (with him) are seeded 2,4,4,5, and 16. I would think he would rather swim any individual event than a 16th seed relay.
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Post by swim5599 » Thu Mar 01, 2007 5:47 pm

Even if he does not have a chance of making it back in either the 50 or the 500?

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