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Post by silentp » Fri Mar 25, 2011 10:59 am

Nice job with all 3 miaa swimmers getting back. DeWald with an impressive 1:04.1.

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Re: Breastroke

Post by Archer » Fri Mar 25, 2011 11:07 am

i agree, dewald swam well. maybe she was just a lot smaller than the girl above her, but she was losing ground on each pull out and then making it up with her stroke. It looked like maybe she was also losing ground to other people in the heat. Is this something she's working on or is it just a result of being smaller than a lot of the top breaststrokers who are monsters?

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Re: Breastroke

Post by silentp » Fri Mar 25, 2011 2:50 pm

Archer wrote:i agree, dewald swam well. maybe she was just a lot smaller than the girl above her, but she was losing ground on each pull out and then making it up with her stroke. It looked like maybe she was also losing ground to other people in the heat. Is this something she's working on or is it just a result of being smaller than a lot of the top breaststrokers who are monsters?
I would imagine it's a result of only being able to turn her head and look once during each pullout vs 10 times (per length) above the water.
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Re: Breastroke

Post by cptcrunch » Fri Mar 25, 2011 3:54 pm

Archer wrote:i agree, dewald swam well. maybe she was just a lot smaller than the girl above her, but she was losing ground on each pull out and then making it up with her stroke. It looked like maybe she was also losing ground to other people in the heat. Is this something she's working on or is it just a result of being smaller than a lot of the top breaststrokers who are monsters?
This is a weird post. Because from what I have seen over my years of swimming, is that usually breast strokers are usually shorter. Which in theory does not hurt them because it is a short axis stroke, unlike freestyle, back, and fly which height can help.

Also, look at the some girls that are monsters that win events, then there are "smaller shorter girls" who can barely lift a weight but still swim fast and also win events. Not trying to bash on any women but look at even Olympians for instance. Allison Schmitt for instance is 6' 1" compared to amanda beard who is 5' 7". They are both olmypic athletes and can swim fast. And Amanda Beard is I would say very attractive.

Just saying you do not have to be a monster and tall to swim fast. You can be short and tiny, and sometimes attractive and still swim fast.

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Re: Breastroke

Post by silentp » Fri Mar 25, 2011 3:57 pm

cptcrunch wrote:... usually breast strokers are usually shorter. Which in theory does not hurt them because it is a short axis stroke, unlike freestyle, back, and fly which height can help.
Really?
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Re: Breastroke

Post by squintz123 » Fri Mar 25, 2011 6:00 pm

silentp wrote:
Archer wrote:i agree, dewald swam well. maybe she was just a lot smaller than the girl above her, but she was losing ground on each pull out and then making it up with her stroke. It looked like maybe she was also losing ground to other people in the heat. Is this something she's working on or is it just a result of being smaller than a lot of the top breaststrokers who are monsters?
I would imagine it's a result of only being able to turn her head and look once during each pullout vs 10 times (per length) above the water.
I never got why people just couldn't use their peripheral vision... it's not that hard with Swedes on.
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Archer wrote:i agree, dewald swam well. maybe she was just a lot smaller than the girl above her, but she was losing ground on each pull out and then making it up with her stroke. It looked like maybe she was also losing ground to other people in the heat. Is this something she's working on or is it just a result of being smaller than a lot of the top breaststrokers who are monsters?
This is a weird post. Because from what I have seen over my years of swimming, is that usually breast strokers are usually shorter. Which in theory does not hurt them because it is a short axis stroke, unlike freestyle, back, and fly which height can help.

Also, look at the some girls that are monsters that win events, then there are "smaller shorter girls" who can barely lift a weight but still swim fast and also win events. Not trying to bash on any women but look at even Olympians for instance. Allison Schmitt for instance is 6' 1" compared to amanda beard who is 5' 7". They are both olmypic athletes and can swim fast. And Amanda Beard is I would say very attractive.

Just saying you do not have to be a monster and tall to swim fast. You can be short and tiny, and sometimes attractive and still swim fast.
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Re: Breastroke

Post by Samuel L Jackson » Fri Mar 25, 2011 11:59 pm

silentp wrote:
cptcrunch wrote:... usually breast strokers are usually shorter. Which in theory does not hurt them because it is a short axis stroke, unlike freestyle, back, and fly which height can help.
Really?
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Re: Breastroke

Post by sagehen1 » Sat Mar 26, 2011 12:21 am

I think Chris Manning of KZoo beat Chris Manning of Auburn in the 100 breast today.

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Re: Breastroke

Post by Vincent Chase » Sat Mar 26, 2011 12:05 pm

the boss record falls.. thoughts?

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Re: Breastroke

Post by Milhouse » Sat Mar 26, 2011 1:39 pm

Vincent Chase wrote:the boss record falls.. thoughts?
It stood for 10 years. That, in itself, is impressive.
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Re: Breastroke

Post by spobrocy1 » Sat Mar 26, 2011 1:43 pm

Vincent Chase wrote:the boss record falls.. thoughts?
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Re: Breastroke

Post by silentp » Sat Mar 26, 2011 3:04 pm

Milhouse wrote:
Vincent Chase wrote:the boss record falls.. thoughts?
It stood for 10 years. That, in itself, is impressive.
Agreed. It even withstood the suit year.
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Re: Breastroke

Post by Milhouse » Sat Mar 26, 2011 11:59 pm

Vincent Chase wrote:the boss record falls.. thoughts?
Also, Gorton's 11-year old diving record went down.
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Re: Breastroke

Post by DonCheadle » Mon Mar 28, 2011 11:25 am

Milhouse wrote:
Vincent Chase wrote:the boss record falls.. thoughts?
Also, Gorton's 11-year old diving record went down.
it was complete BS. Gorton's DD was so much higher than anyone's it really would have been impossible for any of the divers at this meet to beat him in a head to head. Generous scoring, though, and suddenly two people beat him.

Boss held the record for 12 years. That is pretty sweet.
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Re: Breastroke

Post by silentp » Mon Mar 28, 2011 11:49 am

DonCheadle wrote:
Milhouse wrote:Also, Gorton's 11-year old diving record went down.
it was complete BS. Gorton's DD was so much higher than anyone's it really would have been impossible for any of the divers at this meet to beat him in a head to head. Generous scoring, though, and suddenly two people beat him.
I think the only way to look at it would be margin of victory, which would be biased based on competition, but probably more accurate than scoring with different judges each year.
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