NESCAC Weekend 2

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NESCAC Weekend 2

Postby imJumbo » Sat Dec 01, 2018 12:54 pm

Tufts at MIT Invite
Williams at UConn
Middlebury at Amherst
Conn Coll, Wesleyan at CT Cup
Colby, Bowdoin, Bates at Maine Winter Invite
Trinity at Hamilton for Hamilton Invite

Should be a fast weekend with a few schools at invites.
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Re: NESCAC Weekend 2

Postby imJumbo » Sat Dec 01, 2018 2:21 pm

Well, no sooner than posting this, Roger Gu goes and breaks the conference record in the 50 free in prelims. 19.89. And split a 19.4 on the relay. He's fast.
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Re: NESCAC Weekend 2

Postby Borg » Sat Dec 01, 2018 3:47 pm

imJumbo wrote:Well, no sooner than posting this, Roger Gu goes and breaks the conference record in the 50 free in prelims. 19.89. And split a 19.4 on the relay. He's fast.

All Mr. Gu needs is a little competition.......1/100th separated Gu from the MIT prelim winner Samuel Ubellacker.....on Dec 1st. Awesome.
Note: Gu swam the 200 Free prior to this 50 free prelim....the MIT sprinter didn't.

Tufts is winning after Fri PM. Of course they did have 6 scoring relay teams in the 800 Free ....grossing 180 pts in that one event :)

No Tufts male divers this year? Tufts Women are at the meet
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Re: NESCAC Weekend 2

Postby Borg » Sun Dec 02, 2018 10:52 am

Roger Gu wins 50 Free final......19.77
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Re: NESCAC Weekend 2

Postby nescac123 » Sun Dec 02, 2018 11:24 am

Hamilton seems to have found a little hidden gem in Wilkins.

100 Y Free (split) 47.80
200 Y Free (lead off) 1:46.58
100 Y Breast (split/swim) 58.05 / 58.55
200 Y Breast (swim) 2:08.91
200 Y IM (swim) 1:57.24

All of those are relatively close to his best times and very solid times. Would anyone know if Hamilton would have rested at all for the meet? If not, I think he will be one to watch as Hamilton try to rebuild.
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Re: NESCAC Weekend 2

Postby swimdad » Sun Dec 02, 2018 12:11 pm

Borg wrote:Roger Gu wins 50 Free final......19.77

Are you related to Gu or something?

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Re: NESCAC Weekend 2

Postby EphFan123 » Sun Dec 02, 2018 3:48 pm

Honestly, aside from Gu and Joseph Kim Tufts did not look good this weekend at all. I’m sure we’ll hear kk the excuses about 2 days rest etc but if they were wearing suits and had no rest I’d expect to see better times.
Of note this weekend from Williams, freshman Aaron Stanton goes 47.1 in the 100 free. Will Zhang splits 20.9. Melnick splits 26.1. Lee splits 22.8. Karofsky 9:37 in the 1000 and 4:42 in the 500. Pearcy 51.4 in the 100 fly. Lovette 1:42 200 free.

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Re: NESCAC Weekend 2

Postby Borg » Sun Dec 02, 2018 4:07 pm

swimdad wrote:
Borg wrote:Roger Gu wins 50 Free final......19.77

Are you related to Gu or something?

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Too funny given my threads questioning Tufts' participation in NESCAC.

Gu is doing something special.....besting his NESCAC record in a December swim.
Here is the now outdated record page. Ignoring the irrelevant 100 IM, notice every record was set at championship meets in Feb or March.....until yesterday. How low will he go in 3 months?

https://www.nescac.org/championships/records/sd-m-.pdf
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Re: NESCAC Weekend 2

Postby swimdad » Sun Dec 02, 2018 4:10 pm

@Borg you are correct, he is truly special. Was just teasing.

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Re: NESCAC Weekend 2

Postby imJumbo » Sun Dec 02, 2018 10:49 pm

Big swims this weekend all around:

Jamie Lovette tossing out a 1:42.6 and Karofsky at 4:42/9:37 are huge dual meet swims, and their freshman are showing that they're going to be a real force.

Sarrier with a 46.6/1:43 at the Maine meet was big, but the Bates distance duo going Williams going 4:40/16:01 and Komishane 4:37/16:14 was big time.

Nick Wilkins at Hamilton going 58.5/2:08 was some big mid-season meet swims too, he's definitely going to be a factor at NESCACs.

Tufts definitely showed the type of caliber they have. Gu the obvious standout at 19.77/44.44 is just crazy at mid season (last year was 20.2/45.2 at this meet). Kingsley is of course just fast and consistent. And welcome to the show Joseph Kim (1:48 bk, 3:59 IM) and Nate Tingen (23.4/51.5 bk). They highlighted just such a strong freshman class. Tufts is just so deep its unreal, too many fantastic swims to count.

Great end to the semester by everyone.
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Re: NESCAC Weekend 2

Postby RetiredJet » Mon Dec 03, 2018 8:46 am

EphFan123 wrote:Honestly, aside from Gu and Joseph Kim Tufts did not look good this weekend at all. I’m sure we’ll hear kk the excuses about 2 days rest etc but if they were wearing suits and had no rest I’d expect to see better times.
Of note this weekend from Williams, freshman Aaron Stanton goes 47.1 in the 100 free. Will Zhang splits 20.9. Melnick splits 26.1. Lee splits 22.8. Karofsky 9:37 in the 1000 and 4:42 in the 500. Pearcy 51.4 in the 100 fly. Lovette 1:42 200 free.

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Just want to throw out some context here. Most kids on the team were faster at the meet this year than they were last year. John LaLime went from 16:35->16:14, Tyler Tatro went from 1:43.33->1:42.10 and 47.59->46.85, Nathan Mitchell went 152.89->1:51.05, and John Koster went from 1:57.47 ->1:55.15. My point being almost everyone on the team was faster than they were last year at this meet. Everyone loves to hate on Tufts for their MIT times, whether it be because they rested too much or their times weren’t impressive enough, but fact of the matter is that they have been showing up at NESCACs/NCAA for the last few years now so I think most kids are probably feeling pretty good about their meet.

Also just want to throw out there that the Tufts women swam lights out. They had multiple relays go faster than what it took to make NCAA last year. 800 Free was 7:36.47 and 200 Medley relay was 1:44.72 and given that Tufts hasn’t sent any relays to NCAA in a few years I would say that was very impressive for them. Finally, there were lots of great swims by the Tufts women individually (I would go take a look at Abby Claus, Mary Hufziger, Lily Kurtz, Colleen Doolan, Amy Socha and Sasha Fong’s individual times to start) and I think this will set them up very well at NESCACs this year.
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Re: NESCAC Weekend 2

Postby polarbear » Mon Dec 03, 2018 9:03 am

imJumbo wrote:Big swims this weekend all around:

Jamie Lovette tossing out a 1:42.6 and Karofsky at 4:42/9:37 are huge dual meet swims, and their freshman are showing that they're going to be a real force.

Sarrier with a 46.6/1:43 at the Maine meet was big, but the Bates distance duo going Williams going 4:40/16:01 and Komishane 4:37/16:14 was big time.

Nick Wilkins at Hamilton going 58.5/2:08 was some big mid-season meet swims too, he's definitely going to be a factor at NESCACs.

Tufts definitely showed the type of caliber they have. Gu the obvious standout at 19.77/44.44 is just crazy at mid season (last year was 20.2/45.2 at this meet). Kingsley is of course just fast and consistent. And welcome to the show Joseph Kim (1:48 bk, 3:59 IM) and Nate Tingen (23.4/51.5 bk). They highlighted just such a strong freshman class. Tufts is just so deep its unreal, too many fantastic swims to count.

Great end to the semester by everyone.


Thats the BOWDOIN distance duo . . . .
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Re: NESCAC Weekend 2

Postby swimdad » Mon Dec 03, 2018 9:44 am

@polarbear, were they suited and rested? If not, great great swims.

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Re: NESCAC Weekend 2

Postby polarbear » Mon Dec 03, 2018 9:55 am

RetiredJet wrote:
EphFan123 wrote:Honestly, aside from Gu and Joseph Kim Tufts did not look good this weekend at all. I’m sure we’ll hear kk the excuses about 2 days rest etc but if they were wearing suits and had no rest I’d expect to see better times.
Of note this weekend from Williams, freshman Aaron Stanton goes 47.1 in the 100 free. Will Zhang splits 20.9. Melnick splits 26.1. Lee splits 22.8. Karofsky 9:37 in the 1000 and 4:42 in the 500. Pearcy 51.4 in the 100 fly. Lovette 1:42 200 free.

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Just want to throw out some context here. Most kids on the team were faster at the meet this year than they were last year. John LaLime went from 16:35->16:14, Tyler Tatro went from 1:43.33->1:42.10 and 47.59->46.85, Nathan Mitchell went 152.89->1:51.05, and John Koster went from 1:57.47 ->1:55.15. My point being almost everyone on the team was faster than they were last year at this meet. Everyone loves to hate on Tufts for their MIT times, whether it be because they rested too much or their times weren’t impressive enough, but fact of the matter is that they have been showing up at NESCACs/NCAA for the last few years now so I think most kids are probably feeling pretty good about their meet.

Also just want to throw out there that the Tufts women swam lights out. They had multiple relays go faster than what it took to make NCAA last year. 800 Free was 7:36.47 and 200 Medley relay was 1:44.72 and given that Tufts hasn’t sent any relays to NCAA in a few years I would say that was very impressive for them. Finally, there were lots of great swims by the Tufts women individually (I would go take a look at Abby Claus, Mary Hufziger, Lily Kurtz, Colleen Doolan, Amy Socha and Sasha Fong’s individual times to start) and I think this will set them up very well at NESCACs this year.


I havent run the numbers but just by feel it looks like Tufts men didnt rest as much. Tatro was 1:42.6 in the individual 200 last year so pretty much the same this year, Bowen was 49.3 in the 100bk and I think 50.4 this year. Again, just by feel. Overall, I think its a better move, but time will tell.

After just a quick glance it feels like less fast swimming at this weekend than last year. Bates women dont look to have rested (makes sense with Ho and Sears I believe studying abroad), Bowdoin didnt appear to (although Williams was a touch faster in the 500), etc.
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Re: NESCAC Weekend 2

Postby polarbear » Mon Dec 03, 2018 9:57 am

swimdad wrote:@polarbear, were they suited and rested? If not, great great swims.

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I wasn't there so don't know if suited but as I understand it not rested.
Actually, I hope it is a bit of a wakeup call -- you can't just pop off a qualifying swim, especially after time out from Thanksgiving. And the mens team still has a bunch of kids out with injuries.
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