MIAA's 2019

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Re: MIAA's 2019

Postby Unionsteels4 » Sat Feb 09, 2019 11:07 am

Eli, I believe the kind of bias our friend is referring to is that which comes from an older sibling. We are all immensely proud of siblings when they possess gifts which place them above their peers, and we brag accordingly, but that also comes with perhaps a touch of clouded vision. Pretending Huttenlocher does not even have a case is silly. Little Benny is for sure faster in the 50 and 100's (cept breast) as well as the 200fr and 200bk. Huttenlocher is almost certainly faster at the 100 br, 400Im, 500fr, Mile, 200Br, and 200fl. 2 IM is a toss up (hopefully decided at leagues?) and neither are by any means bad at anything. Which would I take? Probably the one that can help more in relays, but that was not the claim which you seem to be so bothered by. As for bias in the forums... 100% what they're for. Bring it
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Re: MIAA's 2019

Postby y-u-always-lying » Sat Feb 09, 2019 6:03 pm

Put some respek on the name because I'm back in the GAME. The banter going on... LOVE IT. The mental strategy and overcompensating for a small package .... EXPECTED. The Fortnite wannabes switched to Apex Legends.... FAKES. Get your sleeps and collect your weeps :cry: . Hide your sister and be the mister. MIAA. The oldest conference in the country. With the founder Skylar Fish competing in his record 110th MIAA Championships. Back and Black and bald. Scared? You should be. Ready? I'm sure as hell not, but time waits for no man. Lettuce GO!
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Re: MIAA's 2019

Postby c-relay » Sun Feb 10, 2019 10:39 am

The ultimate battle between John Patnott and Skylar Fish!
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Re: MIAA's 2019

Postby WilliamWallace » Sun Feb 10, 2019 11:51 am

Some thoughts:
1. Forums and bias go hand in hand. No surprises there. My favorite is when people use an anonymous account to talk about themselves. That’s too funny. Lookin at Muma back in the day.
2. CalvinVsAlbion. History doesn’t repeat itself, but it does rhyme. Two meets to look at - 2017 and 2018. Couldn’t be any more different as far as how they went mentally and physiologically for each team. In 17 all four classes of Calvin had never tasted anything but domination. They had a triumphant win #1 in 2014, lazily dominated in 15, and had another home meet blowout in 16. So the seniors of 17 had literally no reason to expect they wouldn’t just do same old same old. I put low percentage of outcome of the 17 meet on training/taper. I put a lot of weight on Albion being able to attack early and scare the crap out of a team that thought they were invincible. It worked and they toppled a good team and made an enormous amount of points in the surge. —now— the 2018 team had a bloody lip and was well aware of the Albion threat. That’s why they were able to go blow for blow with them last year. Expect a team a lot more like 2018 than 2017. Something I don’t know is how much JT had to do with directing the intangibles on Albion’s team (would love if a Brit alumni could speak to that). If JT was just as good in the locker room as he was on deck at practice each day, then he gets even more credit for the fight that Albion has developed. This begs the question- how will the new coach for the brits carry the incredibly important intangibles. We will see.

Predictions: Calvin wins but by less than 25 pts. The major point scoring swimmers on each team don’t have a ton of room to move around, so it’s gonna come down to the men on the second half of the roster. Calvin’s depth gets an edge there. Plus they are big as hell and that’s usually dangerous for deck presence. Hope Albion puts something out there.

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Re: MIAA's 2019

Postby ThisIsAwesome » Sun Feb 10, 2019 5:23 pm

WilliamWallace wrote:Some thoughts:
The major point scoring swimmers on each team don’t have a ton of room to move around, so it’s gonna come down to the men on the second half of the roster.

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Hey... New to MIAA swimming and loving every minute. Since I'm new, let's not forget the unknown of how the freshmen will contribute to their teams. Can they swing the final results? Sorry to all other fans outside of Albion and Calvin, I'm only focusing on these two teams. Some season stats (found on Collegeswimming.com) and my predictions:
Albion freshman class - 10 swimmers
Calvin freshman class - 8 swimmers
Colegeswimming.com shows top times in each event so far this season in the MIAA. Here are some results:
Albion - 8 freshmen swimmers that have times in the top 20 for an event (To watch: D. Fogel, R. Hagner, N. Mitchell, C. Robertson, T. Trueax - these swimmers have multiple top 10 times)
Calvin - 6 freshmen swimmers that have times in the top 20 for an event (To watch: N. Holstege, B. Miner, T. Sparks - these swimmers have multiple top 10 times)
I'll list: Name (MIAA rank) Time School - This is based on Individual events I would think these swimmers might swim at MIAA championships.
Sprint free definitely goes to Calvin. Distance free goes to Albion.
50 Free - N. Holstege (2) 20.77 Calvin, T. Sparks (7) 21.47 Calvin
100 Free - T. Sparks (6) 46.62 Calvin, N. Holstege (20) 48.48 Calvin
200 Free - T. Trueax (10) 1:45.36 Albion, T. Sparks (11) 1:45.54 Calvin, M. Creeks (15) 1:47.o6 Calvin
500 Free - D. Fogel (3) 4:42.17 Albion, T. Trueax (4) 4:48.00 Albion, M. Creeks (13) 4:59.25 Calvin
1650 Free (1000 Fr times) - N. Mitchell (6) 10:14.28 Albion, T. Trueax (5) 10:11.96 Albion, M. Creeks (14) 10:37.38 Calvin
Backstroke should be close.
100 BK - R. Hagner (9) 53.38 Albion, E. Halboth (18) 56.19, N. Holstege (3) 51.95 Calvin, J. Boender (11) 54.00 Calvin
200 Bk - R. Hagner (7) 1:59.41 Albion, E. Halboth (11) 2:02.20, A. Hopkins (18) 2:06.07, J. Boender (9) 2:00.23 Calvin
Breaststroke should favor Albion.
100 Br - C. Robertson (18) 1:01.85 Albion, A. Jonna (19) 1:02.03 Albion
200 Br - A. Jonna (8) 2:12.66 Albion, C. Robertson (10) 2:13.53 Albion, N. Peeps (11) 2:13.61 Calvin, B. Miner (14) 2:14.47 Calvin
Butterfly is all Albion for freshmen
100 Fly - D. Fogel (10) 52.66 Albion
200 Fly - D. Fogel (2) 1:56.40 Albion
IM is close, but I'm leaning to Albion because I'm a bit biased. :)
200 IM - C. Robertson (6) 1:58.76 Albion, E. Halboth (20) 2:04.89 Albion, B. Miner (9) 1:59.14
400 IM - N. Mitchell (6) 4:10.88 Albion, B. Miner (7) 4:15.65 Calvin, N. Peeps (13) 4:26.40

Prediction for Freshmen in the top 8 at MIAA's:
Albion - D. Fogel (500 Fr, 100 Fly, 200 Fly), R. Hagner (100 Bk), A. Jonna (200 Br), N. Mitchell (1650 Fr, 400 IM), C. Robertson (200 IM, 200 Br), T. Trueax (200 Fr, 500 Fr, 1650 Fr)
Calvin - J. Boender (200 Bk), N. Holstege (50 Fr, 100 Bk), B. Miner (400 IM), T. Sparks (50 Fr, 100 Fr)
So much depends on who tapers best, but based on the numbers so far, I'm predicting a higher point total from the Albion freshmen vs. the Calvin freshmen. Will it be enough to win? I can't wait to find out.
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Re: MIAA's 2019

Postby Fireball27 » Sun Feb 10, 2019 6:04 pm

ThisIsAwesome wrote:
WilliamWallace wrote:Some thoughts:
The major point scoring swimmers on each team don’t have a ton of room to move around, so it’s gonna come down to the men on the second half of the roster.

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Hey... New to MIAA swimming and loving every minute. Since I'm new, let's not forget the unknown of how the freshmen will contribute to their teams. Can they swing the final results? Sorry to all other fans outside of Albion and Calvin, I'm only focusing on these two teams. Some season stats (found on Collegeswimming.com)

Its going to be exciting seeing how Tabers first recruiting class (including transfer sophomores) does in their first league meet some highlights may be

Liam Faber: with a speedy 200 IM at Calvin (2:04.32) and a 200 breast at Wheaton being (2:16.89)

Nick Weigle: The prototypical 50 Freestyler specialty with his time being a 22.02 at Wheaton with a not to shabby 100 freestyle and 200 Freestyle being 49.49 and 1:50 respectively

Andrew Dwan: Although we have seen some regression from his times in highschool he still isn't a slouch with a 100 time of 49.56 and 200 time of 1:49.07 and some pretty decent fly with him going a 2:11 in the 200 fly during the Michigan Illinois quad and 55.54 in the 100 fly at Wheaton

Grant Williams: Not much to say other than he a beast at diving and maybe a 50 SWIVER

Daniel Keith: The man whom needs no introduction and he is the man who jump started Hopes rebuild. His options for swimming at leagues are every event excluding the 1650 and breaststroke, If he swims the 200 Free at leagues it would be exciting to see the Iturbe-Keith showdown, it will be interesting to see what Taber puts him in
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Re: MIAA's 2019

Postby TheLCrew » Sun Feb 10, 2019 6:38 pm

Andrew Dwan: Although we have seen some regression from his times in highschool he still isn't a slouch with a 100 time of 49.56 and 200 time of 1:49.07 and some pretty decent fly with him going a 2:11 in the 200 fly during the Michigan Illinois quad and 55.54 in the 100 fly at Wheaton
Dear Fireball27, while I agree with most of your assessments, I am questioning this certain evaluation of Hope's freshman Andrew Dwan. Both his 100 and 200 freestyle need much work if he is going to make top 8 at MIAA conference. There are handfuls of swimmers who can swim sub 50.0 100 and sub 1:50 200. Calvin has 10 of each in every class. Also, anyone can swim a 2:11 in the 200 fly. He needs to be going at least under 2 minutes if he wants to even think about being anything other than an exhibition swim.
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Re: MIAA's 2019

Postby c-relay » Sun Feb 10, 2019 6:43 pm

Daniel Keith: The man whom needs no introduction and he is the man who jump started Hopes rebuild. His options for swimming at leagues are every event excluding the 1650 and breaststroke, If he swims the 200 Free at leagues it would be exciting to see the Iturbe-Keith showdown, it will be interesting to see what Taber puts him in


I don't know about Daniel Keith being the man who solely jumpstarted Hope's rebuild. This has been a process that has started way before him. The addition of Taber has been a huge help as well in getting Keith to even swim. Not to say Keith didn't help but give some credit to the other swimmers on Hope's team for recruiting as well. Also Keith has posted a good tapered 200IM this season breaking a Hope record i think? Im sure that he can swim the 100 breaststroke for sure probably a 56-57. The 200 breast would probably be 2:05-2:09 which is still fast. I think that he can swim breaststroke but Hope needs him other places because they are bleeding badddddd.

Either way will see some good times from DK at leagues.
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Re: MIAA's 2019

Postby Fireball27 » Sun Feb 10, 2019 6:56 pm

TheLCrew wrote:Dear Fireball27, while I agree with most of your assessments, I am questioning this certain evaluation of Hope's freshman Andrew Dwan. Both his 100 and 200 freestyle need much work if he is going to make top 8 at MIAA conference. There are handfuls of swimmers who can swim sub 50.0 100 and sub 1:50 200. Calvin has 10 of each in every class. Also, anyone can swim a 2:11 in the 200 fly. He needs to be going at least under 2 minutes if he wants to even think about being anything other than an exhibition swim.

If your team affiliation actually is Alma could you tell me how it is only having one person on the guys side scoring
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Re: MIAA's 2019

Postby c-relay » Sun Feb 10, 2019 7:00 pm

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Re: MIAA's 2019

Postby TheLCrew » Sun Feb 10, 2019 7:18 pm

Fireball27, Let's leave Alma out of this situation. I think we can all agree that we want Alma to become a greater presence in the MIAA. They didn't do anything to you so let's chill out and focus on how many times Calvin has tapered this year and if Albion will beat them this year. Alma doesn't belong in the gutter at all especially Fererra, dudes got mad game at the free events and will probably be a strong presence at conference this year. Cant wait to see. Along with that pretty sure Almas has got a some decent recruits coming in soon thanks to the new coaching change.

Cant wait for all six teams in the MIAA to be a superpower!
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Re: MIAA's 2019

Postby Starlord knight » Sun Feb 10, 2019 7:51 pm

Wikipedia defines bias as "someones opinion is different and that they don't like the other persons opinion." People can cry "BIAS!" as much as they want, but when it comes to this championship, there will only be one winning team. Philosophy teaches us that fact is the sole separator between opinion and speculation. Thus, we can come to the conclusion that facts are ultimately determined by who touches the wall first. The fact of the matter is that there is no question on who wins this meet.

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Re: MIAA's 2019

Postby JuicyJayDiesel » Sun Feb 10, 2019 7:56 pm

Whoa it's been a bit since I've signed in. Guess I shouldn't let my password sheet get wrapped up next time I let my hair down.

Anyway, on to business.

Watch out for us this year at MIAA's 2019: Return of the Zoo

This boy Grant, he's got some Anger and is tired of letting Tyler Kimberlily push him around in the Bestrokes.
Sharif will be Shakin it up all across the board when he WINS the 2 fly.
of course the other Grant's Stille got it when he takes down all challengers in his primary... and possibly only event the 50. Yard. Freestyle.
The dynamic duo of Tejas Vettukattil and Simon Li... 1-2 on both boards. enough said about the sick stache and Simon's mad rhymes.

But... There is another... One far more powerful than the likes of any swimmer in the MIAA. He swims with the strength of 20 Men, not even Jake lensing can defeat him in Trial by Crossfit. He is, the one, the only, Keeper of the Water House... SCOTT ROBERTS
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Re: MIAA's 2019

Postby Iron_Danny_G » Sun Feb 10, 2019 9:01 pm

It's always nice to see my fellow coaches log back on every once in a while. Thought I should give an update on the team's status as we come up on our final week of a long, but rewarding 2 month taper.

First, we are looking forward to our lockers being fully in-tact following the meet this year. I didn't know it was possible to make it all the way through a metal locker.

Next, the last time the championship was at the HAC, a team other than ours won. We are looking to overcome the obstacles by reintroducing our coveted stretching poles. We WILL be the most flexible individuals on deck.

Lastly, I know there has been some talk about some other teams and their lifting quests this season. Just know, we forever and always will have Jake Lensing; the biggest and strongest bodybuilder in the conference. He strikes fear into any opponent's soul and will single handily lift up the team on the podium after we win.

p.s. To all of my inferior coaches, I once again offer up my blog that highlights some key points for training freestylers. It has really helped me to review this each day before practice.
http://coachdangelderloos.blogspot.com/ ... d.html?m=1

In all seriousness, good luck to my fellow colleagues. It should be a great time as the conference comes together at the culmination of a long season. I look forward to a week of fun and fast swimming. Godspeed.
God bless the Holstege brothers!
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Re: MIAA's 2019

Postby Crash Bandicoot » Tue Feb 12, 2019 8:24 pm

*MIAA League Meet discussion starts*

*every freshman makes account affiliated with Alma*


so much mystery, time to play some Guess Who lol
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