NESCAC Recruiting Classes of 2022

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Re: NESCAC Recruiting Classes of 2022

Postby EphFan123 » Tue Jul 10, 2018 3:56 pm

On Collegeswimming:

Neal Mahoney
22/48/1:46 free
53/2:00 back
53/2:02 fly

Dashiell Hunter
56.6/2:03.1 breast

Zachary Beucler
1:46/4:49/16:35

Colin Merril
4:43/9:43
54/1:54 back
53/1:52 fly
1:57/4:02 IM

Joshua Franco
4:47/16:31

One really strong recruit in Hunter, one strong IM recruit in Merril, and very little depth added to a team that has been struggling with extremely high rates of atrophy and decreased depth. I see conn slipping more and more next year with the graduation of a strong senior class- Freiberg, Pite(s), Tilneac, and Stephens (although Pite had a tough year).
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Re: NESCAC Recruiting Classes of 2022

Postby RetiredJet » Wed Jul 11, 2018 8:45 am

Honestly I hope Conn can get back to the form they were at a few years ago. It seemed like just yesterday that they were winning every relay at Men's NESCAC. They do have some bright spots though with Adl and Merril (and they've got some solid other recruits that haven't publicly committed). While the high drop out rate for their team isn't great one can only hope that the people who are still remaining will help build a culture that can be help build the team back up.
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Re: NESCAC Recruiting Classes of 2022

Postby polarbear » Wed Jul 11, 2018 11:48 am

They undoubtedly have guys who have not declared online, was trying to get a feel for that. I believe they graduate more than half their team.

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Re: NESCAC Recruiting Classes of 2022

Postby Borg » Wed Jul 11, 2018 2:48 pm

neZZZcac wrote:
Heard Adl was transferring out of Conn somewhere outside the NESCAC.


Reposting (Feb '18) this because of the Camel discussion. Anyone confirmed this? 3 event "A" finalist as a frosh
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Re: NESCAC Recruiting Classes of 2022

Postby polarbear » Thu Jul 12, 2018 2:45 pm

Personally, I do not believe we should be posting info about students' school decisions (initially or for transfers) until they have done so in writing publicly. Let's let them have the thrill of making the announcement. Students transferring can be seen as reflecting poorly on a school and I would be disappointed if the school took that "hit" and the information turned out to not be correct.

We will know more at the start of the academic year.
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Re: NESCAC Recruiting Classes of 2022

Postby RetiredJet » Thu Jul 12, 2018 3:57 pm

One recruit I don't think has gotten enough attention on this board is Coleman Komishane. Bowdoin is going to have a serious distance 1-2 bunch with him and Williams. His best times are 1:41.62/4:39.24/9:31.59/16:11/60 which are A/B finals.

I think he will allow Bowdoin to make a serious push for qualifying an 800 free relay at NCAA. Sarier at 1:36, Komishane at 1:41 (realistically he could drop too) then you would really just need 142/143 out of 2 other guys which is not out of the question for them.
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Re: NESCAC Recruiting Classes of 2022

Postby polarbear » Thu Jul 12, 2018 4:20 pm

RetiredJet wrote:One recruit I don't think has gotten enough attention on this board is Coleman Komishane. Bowdoin is going to have a serious distance 1-2 bunch with him and Williams. His best times are 1:41.62/4:39.24/9:31.59/16:11/60 which are A/B finals.

I think he will allow Bowdoin to make a serious push for qualifying an 800 free relay at NCAA. Sarier at 1:36, Komishane at 1:41 (realistically he could drop too) then you would really just need 142/143 out of 2 other guys which is not out of the question for them.


Chen was 1:42.3 in high school as the 3d guy. But who after that?? MacDonald at 1:44.6 flat start? Baltaytis split 1:44.1 last year and Chertavian, Dickson, and Barry all split around 1:45 flat.

I think it will take 6:42 to go. Sarier with a fast split (1:36) and Chen and Komishane on their game leaves a 1:43 or so. The good news is that there is a group of existing guys who are all getting better who could realistically pump out a 1:42, they just need everyone on at the same time. Sarier has not been fast in this event in the past but maybe he didnt feel the need to race. My thought would be to put Sarier 3d to see if he can get them in contention and have a racer anchor -- maybe the competition yields an epic swim.

I also think their 200FR and medleys will be better next year. The medleys may be their best chance.
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Re: NESCAC Recruiting Classes of 2022

Postby polarbear » Thu Jul 12, 2018 4:26 pm

And its finally in writing online, both to Bowdoin --

Justin Yang, Lakeland Hills:
23.3 / 50.00 / 1:48.7 backstrokes.

Ted Mebust, Cooperstown (brother is at Amherst)
21.1 / 47.4 / 1:45 free
23.9 / 51.3 back

Fills that backstroke hole Bowdoin has had for a couple of years and maybe one of them can bang out a fast 200 free for that relay
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Re: NESCAC Recruiting Classes of 2022

Postby polarbear » Thu Jul 12, 2018 4:42 pm

Lakeland Hills could field an NCAA 400MR with kids its sending to the NESCAC:
- Yang (50.00 bk) Bowdoin
- Sun (56.8 br) Amherst
- Tan (49.7 fly) Williams
- Zhang (20.9 free) Williams
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Re: NESCAC Recruiting Classes of 2022

Postby EphFan123 » Fri Jul 13, 2018 10:47 am

Some undeniably huge pickups for Bowdoin, which is great. Hopefully we'll get close to parity in the NESCAC. Yang as-is is a huge pickup for any NESCAC school. That 1:48 200 back is especially lethal. After a really weak year, with the exception of Bowen, Kostolansky, and, to a lesser extent, Smith, backstroke was really weak this year after a long period of strength. Mebust's brother is also of note. A good 50 free coming in, plus some good genetics. If he's even close to his brother in size, I could see some huge drops happen there. For those who remember, Mebust the Elder (glad we get to bring this back) was not especially fast coming into College, but had a monster freshman year.
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Re: NESCAC Recruiting Classes of 2022

Postby RetiredJet » Fri Jul 13, 2018 11:07 am

Huge pickups for Bowdoin here, they are starting to feel a little like Conn did in the 2011-2012 time frame. Getting stronger and with some solid underclassman they have a bright future ahead of them.
Yang should push Bowen in the backstrokes and help return the NESCAC to backstroke domination at the national level (wasn't too long ago that there were 5 guys in the A final of the 100 back at NCAAs)

@polarbear for the 800 free why has Bowdoin never used Williams? I know he is a distance swimmer but he seems like he would be a prime candidate for that relay seeing as he only has 1 race on Saturday.
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Re: NESCAC Recruiting Classes of 2022

Postby polarbear » Fri Jul 13, 2018 2:59 pm

Williams best is a 145 which he did senior year of high school when he was 435 and 1540. With the high yardage meets I think they wanted him to focus on the individual events. He did swim it his freshman year I believe.

He is one of the few people who I believe benefited from Connecticut's long, drawn out high school swim championships where you have to go through a number of knockout rounds. Resting for a longer time there may have helped him.

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Re: NESCAC Recruiting Classes of 2022

Postby polarbear » Fri Jul 13, 2018 3:14 pm

The issue Bowdoin may start to have, like Conn, is numbers. This class is good, but a class of 3 is not enough (there are more coming but for arguments sake). With applications jumping so much, an admit rate below 10%, and every admissions department playing identity politics, it may be tough to get the numbers. Add in Henry Savage if he swims and Sam Henderson if he's not injured and it's big enough.

My vision for the team, which let's face it is irrelevant, is Conn from two years ago plus divers, or Midd in the late 90s -- a smaller team but with lots of front end talent that send 3 to 4 kids and relays to NCAAs every year.

In contrast, i know one school that has 15 men coming next year although none that I know of are studs. But they do get more bites at the apple and more opportunities to find the next Geoff Herrick for those of you who have been around for a while.

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Re: NESCAC Recruiting Classes of 2022

Postby Borg » Fri Jul 13, 2018 8:30 pm

polarbear wrote:
In contrast, i know one school that has 15 men coming next year although none that I know of are studs. But they do get more bites at the apple and more opportunities to find the next Geoff Herrick for those of you who have been around for a while.

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Re: NESCAC Recruiting Classes of 2022

Postby nescac123 » Sat Jul 14, 2018 10:13 am

Some general thoughts and comments:

Bowdoin is one of the best academic institutions in the country, I have always felt that they should have been better than they were. It is nice to see the athletics begin to match the academics.

Bowdoins recruits are good but I must agree with polarbear. The school needs to bring in bigger classes so they dont stagnate. They seem to be building something good here and I would not want that to be put on pause with classes of 3-5. This is especially true once Sarier graduates (next year). He will be a huge loss to the program and they will definitely need a class of 6-8 to help cover most of his points alone (as well as other point scorers such as Williams and their Divers).

Another swimmer committed to Conn recently, perhaps they have a large class coming in? Points-wise it might not replace a senior class of studs, but it will be beneficial to the overall rebuilding of the team. The recruits may not be huge point scorers yet but a lot of their times seem comparative to other Conn swimmers who made big jumps in their early years.

Amherst's class is good, very good but it will not be enough to crack second. They have third locked up for now.

Williams and Tufts will have to fight it out for 1/2 again. Williams has a very versatile and good class but Tuft's is better. As of right now, on paper Tufts looks set to repeat as NESCAC champions.

It looks like Trinity could be struggling with recruiting as well. This is a shame as in 2017 they seemed to really be building a strong program.
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